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Eastern Block times...

Black Burn

Well-Known Gopnik
Eh. It works great in the short run. But when resources, and more importantly, money, runs out, the systems collapse in on itself, as have been shown constantly throughout history. Neither system is viable in the long run as far as the economy is concerned. You have no source to bring in the money from as people are not motivated to get a high-paying job. Because why bother getting a triple-digit+ salary when you will simply get your shit taxed to death anyway to support people who may not even deserve it.

The USSR is dead. Venezuela's currency, Bolivar, is worth less than World of Warcraft gold and its social infrastructures are imploding. Venezuela is a country that supposedly have large oil reserves they could use to boost the economy and create a proper infrastructure, but their oil is worthless.

Communism and Socialism are systems, socially and economically, that just can't survive on their own. They need Capitalism in order to survive, or they will slowly choke themselves to death. And when you implement a different economical system it's in essence not Socialism or Communism, but a mix.
Yup, socialism and communism only works on the start, but there are a few good effects of communism and socialism, they've improved living conditions of the poor people, but only this... Moatly it just kn the long condition doesn't work
 

Yakamaru

Autumn Wolf
Yup, socialism and communism only works on the start, but there are a few good effects of communism and socialism, they've improved living conditions of the poor people, but only this... Moatly it just kn the long condition doesn't work
Socialism got us worker's rights, yes. Though what is done in the past stays in the past.

Unless our species become basically a hive mind, Socialism isn't going to work on a larger scale/implementation.
 

SashaBengal

Well-Known Tigress
A friend of my grandmother's used to send me things that he knew he would have no one to give them to. He knew I love horses as much as he did, so he sent me several horse-related items. One of these was the spurs his... either father or grandfather... wore when he was in the Polish Army. They are among my most prized possessions, though I honestly know very little about their original owner. This thread makes me want to research him and Polish history in general, so I have a better understanding of the era the spurs come from. Thank you for this thread.
 

Black Burn

Well-Known Gopnik
I HAVE WROTE THE WHOLE FUCKING HISTORY OF MILITIA ETC. AND IT WAS TO LONG, I WANTED TO COPY IT SOMEWHERE AND PAST IT HERE IN PARTS, AND I HAVE DELETED IT
 
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Vitaly

Guest
You have no source to bring in the money from as people are not motivated to get a high-paying job. Because why bother getting a triple-digit+ salary when you will simply get your shit taxed to death anyway to support people who may not even deserve it.

You dont care about how much money (or other material values) you will get in return if the system provides you with everything you need, your reward is a joy for creativity since all work has become the subject of art.
 

Black Burn

Well-Known Gopnik
You dont care about how much money (or other material values) you will get in return if the system provides you with everything you need, your reward is a joy for creativity since all work has become the subject of art.
In theory maybe gives you everything, but in practice you get nothing, and another thing why socialism doesn't work, it's beacuse people are individualists
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
People love The USA because we are a Democracy. But we aren't. We are a Republic. People believe our vote counts. But twice now in the last 18 years people have voted for someone, Kerry and H. Clinton, both having won the vote of the people, only to have the Electoral College put the loser in office, Bush Jr. and Trump. It aint rocket science.
 

Black Burn

Well-Known Gopnik
People love The USA because we are a Democracy. But we aren't. We are a Republic. People believe our vote counts. But twice now in the last 18 years people have voted for someone, Kerry and H. Clinton, both having won the vote of the people, only to have the Electoral College put the loser in office, Bush Jr. and Trump. It aint rocket science.
Here in Poland we have shitty situation too, but it's still better than communism or socialism, for me politics are always shit, and there will be always those who have more to say and more to take, but we have to restrict them beacuse it can end like for an example some of the countries where 80% of the citizens are starving when the ruler, dictator etc. lives in luxury
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
Here in Poland we have shitty situation too, but it's still better than communism or socialism, for me politics are always shit, and there will be always those who have more to say and more to take, but we have to restrict them beacuse it can end like for an example some of the countries where 80% of the citizens are starving when the ruler, dictator etc. lives in luxury
Agreed. Look how it turned out for the Czars and French royals. Trump is trying the same thing here. The poor are getting poorer and the rich get tax cuts. Wish I got a tax cut.
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
Nahh I do it again, and it's still fun, better, maybe I'll finish it about 3 hours, but my english is not perfect so sorry if it will have grammar mistakes
Its ok. My Polish is......non existent.
 

Black Burn

Well-Known Gopnik
Agreed. Look how it turned out for the Czars and French royals. Trump is trying the same thing here. The poor are getting poorer and the rich get tax cuts. Wish I got a tax cut.
Well, sorry to hear, I wish that things will soon be better, and we have similar situation here so i think that I understand you
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
Our government is supposed to be for the people by the people. Then why is it only rich, Ivy League educated people can afford to run for office. There are no regular people in office in the USA. None.
 
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