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Engagement on FA main site

The_biscuits_532

Scary Ancient Wombat
For me - I'd suggest just tagging your stuff right - in a manner that will attract the most audience; (if attention and more views is what you crave)..... and in that regard - (even though your postings aren't on the front page very long) - those interested in the subjects you present in your art will still find your creations (when they search for those particular keywords).

As a general rule, (based on my past experiences) I can tell you that visitors (to this website here, in particular) do scroll through - and view postings well beyond just the first 2 or 3 pages, (of recent submissions)..... and so, even though you may not be "front and center" up there for very long, many people will still see your stuff; and - it'll largely depend on whether there's interest in the subject matter that your presenting; and not so much on the quality of the artwork itself, (on whether you receive any engagement on it or not).

And so, if you find that your postings aren't getting many "bites" from the local viewers - then, it may be due to not having adequate tags on them, or it could be - (dare I say) - simply a lack of interest (on the part of the audience) in the subject matter that your presenting at that time, *perhaps*. (I'm just speculating there).

But, in any case - it's always *a good idea* also, to diversify where you post your stuff - (if you haven't already); (and you can do this by posting in many other artwork-focused websites and communities).... and that way there - it *might help* in giving you more exposure also.
I only just realised recently that I haven't been tagging half my posts with "cat" lmao

Doesn't seem to have changed much but eh
 

Connor J. Coyote

The ¥oteƵer Extraordinaire
Doesn't seem to have changed much but eh
@The_biscuits_532 Okay..... well, the point is - is that tagging the items more appropriately is the better way to go, usually, and thus - it sounds like the OP is craving a lot of attention for his/her postings..... and so, people *do search* via tags and key words.... and so, perhaps - there's not enough "gist" in what the OP is posting (tag wise) that may be the reasons for his/her lack of views...... I dunno - I'm just speculating.... (shrug)
 

The_biscuits_532

Scary Ancient Wombat
@The_biscuits_532 Okay..... well, the point is - is that tagging the items more appropriately is the better way to go, usually, and thus - it sounds like the OP is craving a lot of attention for his/her postings..... and so, people *do search* via tags and key words.... and so, perhaps - there's not enough "gist" in what the OP is posting (tag wise) that may be the reasons for his/her lack of views...... I dunno - I'm just speculating.... (shrug)
Can confirm, do browse a dozen or so tags pretty consistently
 

Yakamaru

Level 32 Knight
Interactions can and will vary, sometimes a lot, depending on everything from when you uploaded whatever to how many watchers you have and various other factors.

What kind of piece have you uploaded?
Is it colourful?
What's the theme of it?
Does it catch people's eye?
Do you upload frequently?
Do you upload consistently?
If you are an artist, are you proactive in finding potential customers/commissioners?
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Here's an example of a piece I have commissioned, the piece drawn by lovely RoxyHana. I only have 230-ish watchers(gods know why they watch me to begin with. xD), so for me this is a rather high rate of interactions as a non-artist. I just commission whatever I want to commission and if people like it all the better. Just getting views is considered an interaction.
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
Yeah some days it definitely feels like it on the browse pagz ^^" im fine with porn but its often the same unimaginative poses so after a while it looks more like products than art....
Where are the greener pastures :3 ?
Most days you mean, haha
As for greener pastures, dA is still a bigger site and you can tailor what shows up on the frontpage to your own tastes (there's a "see less of -" function but it's pretty new, not sure yet how well it works), pretty nice
*inhales*

nah it's not my place.

steps out of argument.
*inhales* *grabs megaphone* *steps on soapbox* You can just not comment, you know
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
This works both ways. If you post when Americans are sleeping your works are going to stay on the front page for longer. If you post when they are on FA more people might see it during its few moments on the front page but it will also get buried more quickly. I wouldn't expect there to be a huge difference either way.
You know what thats right , why didnt i think about that lol. It still feels like when i post in my morning VS my evening, theres lot more views in the evening, but maybe its just luck. Its also an avice i saw on lot of thread ! But logically yeah it should be k8nd of the same
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
I only just realised recently that I haven't been tagging half my posts with "cat" lmao

Doesn't seem to have changed much but eh
I think its because once you posted, it doesnt matter if you edit the submission it doesnt put it in the front page like a new submission ! And probably theres a lot of submission for cat :/ DONT GIVE UP haha

@The_biscuits_532 Okay..... well, the point is - is that tagging the items more appropriately is the better way to go, usually, and thus - it sounds like the OP is craving a lot of attention for his/her postings..... and so, people *do search* via tags and key words.... and so, perhaps - there's not enough "gist" in what the OP is posting (tag wise) that may be the reasons for his/her lack of views...... I dunno - I'm just speculating.... (shrug)

I edited the original post to avoid confusion for later readers because it seemed i wasnt clear, but to rectify : I am not looking for advices to have more views or watchers. I am looking for advices to have more ENGAGEMENT & INTERACTION (comm, shout, chat, whatever) -like the title say. Of course, having more watchers and views probably increase the chances to have more interaction, but its not the main point of this post.
I used the comparison with deviant art to say that with an equivalent numbers of watchers, i have a lot more engagement from viewers on deviantart than on FA, and was wondering why and if it was something other users experienced. Thats all :^)

Also, theres nothing wrong with wanting to have more watchers/views either, as long as it doesnt become an obesession. Artwork is something where artists put a lot of effort into and they want people to recognize that, and this desire is not shameful. If it is not something you feel, its cool ! But it felt a little condescending of you to say "it looks like they are craving views" and i think it was unecessary mean. Maybe i misunderstood your tone though !

Ill keep your advice for tags in mind, its a good advice ! I dont use them enough for sure haha. Thanks !
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
Interactions can and will vary, sometimes a lot, depending on everything from when you uploaded whatever to how many watchers you have and various other factors.

What kind of piece have you uploaded?
Is it colourful?
What's the theme of it?
Does it catch people's eye?
Do you upload frequently?
Do you upload consistently?
If you are an artist, are you proactive in finding potential customers/commissioners?
+++

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Here's an example of a piece I have commissioned, the piece drawn by lovely RoxyHana. I only have 230-ish watchers(gods know why they watch me to begin with. xD), so for me this is a rather high rate of interactions as a non-artist. I just commission whatever I want to commission and if people like it all the better. Just getting views is considered an interaction.

I guess you're right ! Engagement is a difficult science lol.
ONLY 230 !! Its a lot (for me) come on ヽ(°〇°)ノ !! Congrats on your piece, i checked roxyhana art and its truly lovely :)
And for views its really nice when you have lot of them for sure ! But id prefer comment, or whatever form a "personnalized view" can take lol. Just knowing theres a humane behind it ;v; maybe im an interactions glutton lol

Most days you mean, haha
As for greener pastures, dA is still a bigger site and you can tailor what shows up on the frontpage to your own tastes (there's a "see less of -" function but it's pretty new, not sure yet how well it works), pretty nice

*inhales* *grabs megaphone* *steps on soapbox* You can just not comment, you know
Ah so DA it is ! Yeah my main prob with da is how they promote art, because they put the same art on the main page day after day. Probably art that already have lot of traction to make customers come, but then not the best to discover new talent. But oh well i just browse tags and groups, that works too

And THANK YOU i was going to answer "whats the point of posting a post saying youre not posting, seriously ? So childish", but then i thought it was probably better to ignore and block them. But apparently theres no block button..? Anw thanks lol
 

Connor J. Coyote

The ¥oteƵer Extraordinaire
Can confirm, do browse a dozen or so tags pretty consistently
@The_biscuits_532 Well, people can take the advice given, or - they can leave it. :p It's kind of up to them.

But - if I was craving more attention (like the OP apparently is) then - tagging one's items in a more "creative way" - might help in getting more of the views he/she is looking for.... as that's what I would probably do, if I was in his/her shoes. (shrug)
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
Post topic discussions via journal!
True its a feature i never use ! Not sure if people would check it but i love screaming in the void anyway lol

Related positive vent:

A new user followed me first :0

And then they went through my favourites to find more people to follow, like @ExtinguishedHope :0

I feel so honoured
Aww thats so cool :'0 maybe youre even the person who motivated them to create an account !
 

MaelstromEyre

Slippery When Wet
I don't make my own art, the only things I post on my page from myself are screenshots from Second Life, or stories. Everything else is stuff I've paid someone else to make of my character, and that's fine with me.

To me, FA is not like Facebook. It's not meant to be a social network, it's a showcase of furry art, music, and other ways people choose to express their interest in the fandom. While it's nice to have a few comments and "favorites" and new watches, I really don't think that should be seen as a measure of how "good" you are or how "cool" your character is.

Most of the artists I've followed, I found them as "favorite" on the page of an artist I already followed.
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
I don't make my own art, the only things I post on my page from myself are screenshots from Second Life, or stories. Everything else is stuff I've paid someone else to make of my character, and that's fine with me.

To me, FA is not like Facebook. It's not meant to be a social network, it's a showcase of furry art, music, and other ways people choose to express their interest in the fandom. While it's nice to have a few comments and "favorites" and new watches, I really don't think that should be seen as a measure of how "good" you are or how "cool" your character is.

Most of the artists I've followed, I found them as "favorite" on the page of an artist I already followed.

True ! Its cool you have found a place you like on FA ( ̄▽ ̄) and its also super great to post stories and comm if your character !!

I guess since FA is a website where artists and artlovers gather, i was expecting more interactions like constructive critiscism, encouragement, or stuff like that, rather than just posting your stuff without feedback (faves are nice oc! but for me its not realy feedback). Not like a facebook or wtv, but more like a sort of... web artist workshop where we uplift each other ? Smth like that, but it was prob naive when theres so much people here lol. The forum are nice tho, people are reactive here :3
 

Kyrick

Active Member
True ! Its cool you have found a place you like on FA ( ̄▽ ̄) and its also super great to post stories and comm if your character !!

I guess since FA is a website where artists and artlovers gather, i was expecting more interactions like constructive critiscism, encouragement, or stuff like that, rather than just posting your stuff without feedback (faves are nice oc! but for me its not realy feedback). Not like a facebook or wtv, but more like a sort of... web artist workshop where we uplift each other ? Smth like that, but it was prob naive when theres so much people here lol. The forum are nice tho, people are reactive here :3
I've been on FA for 9 years, and I'll admit to being one of those people who fave, or comment, then move on. But if I really like a certain work I see, I check the user's gallery and a lot of the time I end up watching theem because they have my taste of what I'm looking for on a site like FA.

For the last three years I started posting my own music, just to share something I made, and I knew I probably wouldn't get many watchers (I think i'm around 20)
Could just be different tastes in music, or my post gets buried on the browse section too fast.
To be honest, I like to think that a few people just hit download and don't leave a comment. I'm fine with that.
I once got mentioned in the FurryMusicians newsletter and I even got a few purchases on my BandCamp site for a while after that. So that was cool :)
 

MaelstromEyre

Slippery When Wet
True ! Its cool you have found a place you like on FA ( ̄▽ ̄) and its also super great to post stories and comm if your character !!

I guess since FA is a website where artists and artlovers gather, i was expecting more interactions like constructive critiscism, encouragement, or stuff like that, rather than just posting your stuff without feedback (faves are nice oc! but for me its not realy feedback). Not like a facebook or wtv, but more like a sort of... web artist workshop where we uplift each other ? Smth like that, but it was prob naive when theres so much people here lol. The forum are nice tho, people are reactive here :3

Understood, and that probably would be helpful in a community specifically of artists just posting their art for critique from other artists. Feedback is a great way to learn new techniques and improve.

I think maybe it hasn't caught on so much on FA because there's such a mixed group of actual artists who do it professionally, people posting sketches they've done, and people posting things they've commissioned from other artists.

Not to mention, it can really be taken the wrong way if someone offers "constructive criticism" when it hasn't been asked for. Or just straight up being rude for the sake of trolling or harassing someone.
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
Generally the more engaging you are the more others will engage with you. You'd be surprised how many folks will reach out to you after you take the first step.
 

Pomorek

Antelope-Addicted Hyena
For me it's opposite. I have about two times more watchers on DA, and I've been on there for much longer, but the interaction is almost zero. On FA, I can always count on at least some reaction from my established watchers.

Also the time of the day doesn't seem to be making any real difference when uploading art. It's completely random, some pieces appear to go low-key viral for no good reason, others don't get much notice at all. Quality of art doesn't seem to influence that too.
 

The_biscuits_532

Scary Ancient Wombat
One thing I've noticed recently:

On prompt from one of my watchers I started uploading pictures of my various Transformers and Bionicle figures. The former I was a tad hesitant with because outside of Beast Wars the franchise isn't really furry related, but I did in the end.

And for whatever reason those photos were wayyyyy more popular than anything else I've done?

Currently:
- My custom Roodaka figure has my third highest viewcount
- My Beast Wars figures in Beast Mode are fourth
- My Movieverse figures are sixth
- My Beast Wars figures in Robot Mode are Eighth
- My Beast Wars S1 Maximals are 19th.

All have three favs too, which is fairly good for me.

My theory is that because they're a niche subject they're being viewed by everyone on site with even a slight interest, whereas my furry art isn't viewed nearly as much. This would also explain why my Oncilla character gets more views on average - they're a fairly uncommon species choice. That being said my Red Ruffed Lemur and Brown Hyena characters don't do nearly as well.
 

Raever

Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
it's different when you're a known person

Can't be known if you don't bother showing yourself or providing your insight on things. You should put yourself out there more if you want to, but if you don't, and complain about not being known after...well...it's kinda rude to those who do make the effort, but that's just like, my opinion man. Do with it what you will.


I suppose but when you're known for chiming in for literally no reason, people will tell you that you could've as well not chimed in even more

Also basically this.
 
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