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Engagement on FA main site

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
I've been on FA for 9 years, and I'll admit to being one of those people who fave, or comment, then move on. But if I really like a certain work I see, I check the user's gallery and a lot of the time I end up watching theem because they have my taste of what I'm looking for on a site like FA.

For the last three years I started posting my own music, just to share something I made, and I knew I probably wouldn't get many watchers (I think i'm around 20)
Could just be different tastes in music, or my post gets buried on the browse section too fast.
To be honest, I like to think that a few people just hit download and don't leave a comment. I'm fine with that.
I once got mentioned in the FurryMusicians newsletter and I even got a few purchases on my BandCamp site for a while after that. So that was cool :)

I checked your stuff, its really cool ! youll have 21 watchers now B)
honestly i think its hard to get recognized for other form of art than visual... an image is easy to digest, while reading or listening ask more investment from people so youll only "catch" people that want to participate instead of consuming. or at least thats how i feel when i browse art site lol, im also guilty of not taking the time to check other stuff than visual art !
Its cool if you find what makes you happy on fa tho ♪♬((d⌒ω⌒b))♬♪


Understood, and that probably would be helpful in a community specifically of artists just posting their art for critique from other artists. Feedback is a great way to learn new techniques and improve.

I think maybe it hasn't caught on so much on FA because there's such a mixed group of actual artists who do it professionally, people posting sketches they've done, and people posting things they've commissioned from other artists.

Not to mention, it can really be taken the wrong way if someone offers "constructive criticism" when it hasn't been asked for. Or just straight up being rude for the sake of trolling or harassing someone.

totally ! theres a few groups on DA specifically for having criticism on your work, but its super DEAD lol. too bad thatll be cool ! instead im lurking on this forum critique thread, its not super active but i still learned lot of things.
Yes constructive criticism can be double-edged (is this how this word is used lol) ! some people use the "criticism excuse" to just be jerks and it shows. if the artist doesnt ask for feedback ill just say why i like their art, but i wont say any negative things. if they ask, ill say what they did right and shine in their work, and what could be improved & give tips ! the goal is to give people directions they could take to feel even more satisfied with their work, not to discourage them. its like if you see a street musician ; i think nobody in their right mind would wait for the end of the performance to not only not applaud, but go the artist to tell them the way they play guitar sucks lol. for a mysterious reason though some people think its an okay thing to do on internet tho (-_-)・・・
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
Generally the more engaging you are the more others will engage with you. You'd be surprised how many folks will reach out to you after you take the first step.

True ! Im mostly doing it on da now because i cant be very active on both da and fa, but its definitely true that when you say people nice things they'll want to make you feel happy in return. its like a big circle of love lol (˘∀˘)❤

For me it's opposite. I have about two times more watchers on DA, and I've been on there for much longer, but the interaction is almost zero. On FA, I can always count on at least some reaction from my established watchers.

Also the time of the day doesn't seem to be making any real difference when uploading art. It's completely random, some pieces appear to go low-key viral for no good reason, others don't get much notice at all. Quality of art doesn't seem to influence that too.

Well at least thanks to this thread i have learned that my experience is definitely not universal haha ! i guess at the end its just down to luck :/
same for the art pieces ! its even more weird because it happens to me a lot that the same piece will have "success" on DA but not on FA and vice-versa. I know the public is definitely not the same on each sites lol but would have think that if a piece is really good, itll have success no matter the website, and if its not good, itll be overlooked, but thats not whats happening (•ิ_•ิ)? the only constant is that if you show some boobies it works better lol. internet work in mysterious ways
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
One thing I've noticed recently:

On prompt from one of my watchers I started uploading pictures of my various Transformers and Bionicle figures. The former I was a tad hesitant with because outside of Beast Wars the franchise isn't really furry related, but I did in the end.

And for whatever reason those photos were wayyyyy more popular than anything else I've done?

Currently:
- My custom Roodaka figure has my third highest viewcount
- My Beast Wars figures in Beast Mode are fourth
- My Movieverse figures are sixth
- My Beast Wars figures in Robot Mode are Eighth
- My Beast Wars S1 Maximals are 19th.

All have three favs too, which is fairly good for me.

My theory is that because they're a niche subject they're being viewed by everyone on site with even a slight interest, whereas my furry art isn't viewed nearly as much. This would also explain why my Oncilla character gets more views on average - they're a fairly uncommon species choice. That being said my Red Ruffed Lemur and Brown Hyena characters don't do nearly as well.

i was also hesitant to show non-furry art on fa but its @TyraWadman i think who said on this thread they posted lot of human art and it was ok ! i do so too now and its true it has an equivalent number of views/fave than my non furry art. I think FA is used as a furry website for sure but also as a general art website that is safe bc porn is not banned and wont be banned for a long time, or never. Every social platforms is banning porn (i say porn but i mean female nipples, whatever it means) once they want to become "respectable" for the advertisers which honetly sucks imo (⇀_⇀), im pretty sure itll happen to twitter too soon ; meanwhile i think FA, thanks to the reputation of furry as a public who loves specifically porn, will never be interested in being respectable lol. so i want to say : THANK YOU HORNY PEOPLE ヽ(・∀・)ノ
I'm pretty sure you're right with your theory ! also mecha seems to be successful, i see a lot of ppl on FA asking for it

 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
it's different when you're a known person

OOOh im so sorry i think i totally misunderstood your first post then ! i thought when you said
"*inhales* nah it's not my place. steps out of argument. "
you meant "what this person (klox) is saying is so stupid that it makes me angry but im too good to answer this" and made a show out of it ! so i took it badly and thought it was very childish. But apparently i misunderstood it (?), and you just meant that you wanted to say something but felt like it wasnt your place to say it...?

sorry again for my needless agressivity ! if you want to say something, feel free to do so ! theres no need to be known or whatever, im a nobody on internet and look at how much i talk :0) im a big clown and its cool lol
 
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Netanye Dakabi

people call me queen
i'm getting snarky remarks because the mainstream doesn't know me.

that doesn't mean i don't a have a large following.

just because you don't know me.

i wasn't gloating, i was just saying it functions differently.

you're so vicious, yikes.
 

Klox

Rollling Tumbling along
i'm getting snarky remarks because the mainstream doesn't know me.

that doesn't mean i don't a have a large following.

just because you don't know me.

i wasn't gloating, i was just saying it functions differently.

you're so vicious, yikes.

Ooookayy...? Im not sure i understand your answers, but im pretty sure theres no point in continuing this conversation. Im going back to ignoring you after all and id strongly suggest you do the same to me if you find me vicious :0) Next time, dont hesitate in not participating in a thread if you have nothing to say on a subject tho !
Lets go our merry ways and have a nice day~
 

Kyrick

Active Member
I checked your stuff, its really cool ! youll have 21 watchers now B)
honestly i think its hard to get recognized for other form of art than visual... an image is easy to digest, while reading or listening ask more investment from people so youll only "catch" people that want to participate instead of consuming. or at least thats how i feel when i browse art site lol, im also guilty of not taking the time to check other stuff than visual art !
Its cool if you find what makes you happy on fa tho ♪♬((d⌒ω⌒b))♬♪
I just got around to checking out your own gallery and blimey! I love your Death Maze work.

A great example here, I found a user who has great artwork, and not only started watching them (Klox) but I've just started browsing the Abstract section of Traditional Art. Something I wouldn't have thought of looking through unless other users got together and discussed engagement!

The Abstract art section has some very nice works. It makes you appreciate the galleries don't all have to be strictly fur/scalie or SFW/NSFW to find some really good artists.
 

TheCynicalViet

Well-Known Member
You have to blessed by the FA algorithm. On a serious note, quantity over quality in uploads and either/or trend hopping on the newest fad or dickriding bigger artists is really the only way to get big on any social media, led alone FA.

Always remember this: social media is NOT meritocratic. Making good art is not enough to gain engagement anymore. It's uploading frequently and drawing things that can attract a large demographic is what's gonna get you more engagement.
 

Jackpot Raccuki

Although half canine, is not a wolf.
As far as I can tell from the site it’s basically like most social media’s where it’s not exactly about quality at times but more or less the quantity and even the context.

If you say post art relating to a recently released popular game, you’re gonna get a lot of attraction and if said art hits the mark whenever it’s good quality and say is one of the favourite characters it’ll likely get tons of favs and possibly result in follows if you do more till next big thing.

You want engagement? You’ve gotta appeal and attempt to build yourself up.
It’s why even for streamers you gotta play the new thing, gotta be the best if it’s a multiplayer like Battle royale in which you’ll possibly get a large following that no matter what you’ll do you’ll still have people a large amount watching.

Truthfully I also personally just don’t like how FA is at times so I don’t really use it and haven’t favourited much other than art done for me, and mostly only commented on YCH or pieces done for me aka commissions.
Most art I see is posted to me on discord and I sometimes find more art by searching for YCHs or looking at other works an artist has done since I posted here coz lazy.

But generally speaking you have to act upon it first, whenever reaching out to others or being more seemingly public by lots of posts, I don’t want to sound bleak and I’m doubtful I’m 100% accurate, hopefully.

You have to blessed by the FA algorithm.
I bless the algorithm down in FA! It’s gonna keep the followers away from you!
 

Saokymo

Art Cookie
From my experience, consistency is more important than anything. Quality helps attract views & favs, and quantity helps to get you seen by more people - but having a consistent posting schedule is better than dumping everything all at once. You’re still at the mercy of the algorithm & blind luck, but as long as you keep posting stuff routinely you’ll start building momentum pretty quick.
 
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