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RedSavage

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
CaptainCool said:
Weasyl does have its fair share of problems as well. From what I have heard they have problems with the structure of their staff and there are just not a lot of people posting there.
Yesterday I re-watched everyone there who I watch on FA. Out of roughly 1300 people on my watchlist I found about 400. And a big chunk of the accounts that I did find were inactive.
As for activity, yesterday they had a total of 10.401 users visiting the site. FA has over 10.000 users online at any given time.
At the moment things don't seem to be looking too hot for them... If FA happens to go under (for what ever reason) people will switch there. The other alternatives would be SoFurry and Inkbunny... But no one ever mentions SF when this topic comes up and all the pedos have already moved to IB.
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Lately they've cleaned up staff issues from what I've heard. (And it's not like FA staff structure is any better...) As for the "not a lot of people" posting there, I've found there's a tight knit groups of people there. I suppose it's all where you're looking. At this point the convenience of FA isn't even enough to keep me around for long.
 
Rowedahelicon

Rowedahelicon

Banned
Banned
RedSavage said:
Lately they've cleaned up staff issues from what I've heard. (And it's not like FA staff structure is any better...) As for the "not a lot of people" posting there, I've found there's a tight knit groups of people there. I suppose it's all where you're looking. At this point the convenience of FA isn't even enough to keep me around for long.
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They have, they've been open about their mistakes and their problems and have taken appropriate action. And they're very open with their users. It'll sound like I'm a suck-up for Weasyl which I probably am, I just appreciate the good they do and the honest effort they make, rather than just come on here to complain about FA.

Got to take the bad with the good, it's the only way we can redeem things.
 
mapdark

mapdark

Fluffy as a shaggy carpet
All I'm going to say is prepare for the worst.

I'm not saying "jump ship". But BE prepared for whatever is going to go wrong to go wrong any day now.
The fact that this is not a partnership but a complete change of ownership basically means that IMVU has a veto right on ANYTHING done on the website.
They might have left Dragoneer as an overseer of some sort but it doesn't change anything to the fact THEY are in charge and that if they feel the website isn't profitable enough , they can just change it like they want and Dragoneer and other staff people won't have a say in the decisions taken.

Do you honestly think that a company will buy a website, invest in its infrastructure and then not do anything on the site? Of course not.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the next months we see premium content being introduced and functionalities get limited for free accounts.

And finally , if the website proves to be a money pit , they will probably just shut it down.

So at this point FA is the Titanic on its way to its iceberg. The question is not IF it will sink but when.
 
Verin Asper

Verin Asper

The Smart Idiot
CaptainCool said:
Weasyl does have its fair share of problems as well. From what I have heard they have problems with the structure of their staff and there are just not a lot of people posting there.
Yesterday I re-watched everyone there who I watch on FA. Out of roughly 1300 people on my watchlist I found about 400. And a big chunk of the accounts that I did find were inactive.
As for activity, yesterday they had a total of 10.401 users visiting the site. FA has over 10.000 users online at any given time.
At the moment things don't seem to be looking too hot for them... If FA happens to go under (for what ever reason) people will switch there. The other alternatives would be SoFurry and Inkbunny... But no one ever mentions SF when this topic comes up and all the pedos have already moved to IB.
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Theres a reason you dont speak of SoFurry, just like how some folks on SoFurry dont like FA but will welcome their userbase
take it from me who is an ambassador over there where I do get an occasional hate for being a former FAF regular

but yes SoFurry is already ready with open arms to welcome folks who are running from FA
 
CaptainCool

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Verin Asper said:
Theres a reason you dont speak of SoFurry, just like how some folks on SoFurry dont like FA but will welcome their userbase
take it from me who is an ambassador over there where I do get an occasional hate for being a former FAF regular

but yes SoFurry is already ready with open arms to welcome folks who are running from FA
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I was always just curious why no one ever mentions SF when it comes to the whole "LEAVING FA FOREVER" thing.

Also, I just read the new Q&A journal on the main site. If that is really how things are gonna go then I'd be fine with it. And I do start to understand 'Neer's point of view. Instead of being something that costs money and that just puts a hole in your wallet, this is a chance for FA to become less of a burden, but something to be more passionate about.
If they are really just gonna use FA for thirdparty ads that are introduced in a non-intrusive way but in return we get a website that actually works and has new features... Yeah sure. I'm all for that.
From what I read it would probably be the end of ads from users though... That's kind of a shame.

mapdark said:
So at this point FA is the Titanic on its way to its iceberg. The question is not IF it will sink but when.
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And within two months everyone has forgotten about this and the "I WILL LEAVE FA!!1" journals have ended. Just like it happened when Zaush got onto the team or when people found out abouce Chase.
My point is, you don't know that.
 
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Chaossal

Chaossal

Member
Kajet said:
Well there's one thing to say about the furry fandom, once someone fucks up as bad as people have here, someone else is glad to take over.

Who's gonna take over? Bad Dragon of course http://bad-dragon.com/artsite.html
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oh this sounds awesome! I fully support a art site run by bad dragon! Would join in a heartbeat!

Also I support sofurry in the mean time, like it much better than weasyl, and have already been using it as my second main art account for a long time.
 
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RedSavage

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
I personally think it's still a slap in the face for all the donators. They donated with the prospect of keeping this site self-sufficient and user run. Within two months it was sold, and the talks and negotiations were happening within those two months. So within a month at the least, Dragoneer was already considering selling the site.

That just speaks poor respect for the user base. It doesn't take 10k to stop a DDoS attack. Those funds were put into site functionality, which were quickly sold.
 
Verin Asper

Verin Asper

The Smart Idiot
CaptainCool said:
I was always just curious why no one ever mentions SF when it comes to the whole "LEAVING FA FOREVER" thing.
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cause theres only a few things that go on on SoFurry from my ambassador point of view
-Lots of writing stories as SoFurry came from YiffStar which was a story/writer heavy website (probably contributes to how the same folks keep on appearing in the popular and favorites section on art)
-people posting art that isnt theres (which when reported they make a new account and try again not realizing us ambassadors can see NEW users and their NEW art posted)
-people roleplaying (bonus points the character they are role playing ISNT THEIRS and try to claim it to be) in the TWO adult role play areas (WHY TWO ADULT, how is the private one any different from the public one?)
-and topics that even we here have literally have a rule against...(I hate echo chambers and its full of it over there...)
 
idejtauren

idejtauren

Mooo
CaptainCool said:
And within two months everyone has forgotten about this and the "I WILL LEAVE FA!!1" journals have ended. Just like it happened when Zaush got onto the team or when people found out abouce Chase.
My point is, you don't know that.
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If my calculations are correct, FA has crashed and burned like 17 times now. I think that's what many of those that are staying are complaining about. People cry wolf at every thing that FA does and jump ship with regularity.
And yet, it's still the most popular furry site.
SoFurry... I remember when it was yiffstar...somewhere in the change, it got hard to navigate...and there's been issues with an admin not understanding basic copyright law.
Inkbunny...I don't need to tell you about people's issues with its stances on cub.
Weasyl is much too small. Although the site itself functions well, there's not enough users. It doesn't work well if you're not an artist.
After those? Where else is there? Tumblr? I don't know.
FA is still where the bulk of people are. Until some colossal screwup happens (no, this acquisition doesn't count because nothing has changed...yet) a good chunk of people will still be here.
Maybe you can make another site. But it needs a good amount of users for it to be successful.
 
Volkodav

Volkodav

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Surely IMVU was discussing the sale with FA before the DDOS attack donation run occurred.... why run for donations when its something that IMVU would probably fix?
 
Hermie

Hermie

Member
Holy damn, my account I havent touched in 5 years still works. I'm just going to say what everyone's thinking, that there's more than likely some monetary fraud going on. This SCREAMS shady deals. Why else would it be completely behind closed doors?

To those people complaining about Weasyl being slow, it's because you aren't there. Use it more. Submit art. Write journals. Post in the forums.

To 'Neer, you dun fucked up hardcore, not just for yourself, but for thousands of others. There's no recovery from this. Congratulations.
 
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Verin Asper

Verin Asper

The Smart Idiot
idejtauren said:
If my calculations are correct, FA has crashed and burned like 17 times now. I think that's what many of those that are staying are complaining about. People cry wolf at every thing that FA does and jump ship with regularity.
And yet, it's still the most popular furry site.
SoFurry... I remember when it was yiffstar...somewhere in the change, it got hard to navigate...and there's been issues with an admin not understanding basic copyright law.
Inkbunny...I don't need to tell you about people's issues with its stances on cub.
Weasyl is much too small. Although the site itself functions well, there's not enough users. It doesn't work well if you're not an artist.
After those? Where else is there? Tumblr? I don't know.
FA is still where the bulk of people are. Until some colossal screwup happens (no, this acquisition doesn't count because nothing has changed...yet) a good chunk of people will still be here.
Maybe you can make another site. But it needs a good amount of users for it to be successful.
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its only cause of the biggest pull here really: the artist are here
if all a person does is commission, folks dont really give fucks if they leave.
An artist leaving is a bigger thing, just it dont happen much cause of another reason: Customers
So its really stuck in a loop, folks dont leave cause their artist isnt leaving and the artist isnt leaving cause their larger customer base is here.
 
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Blitza

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RedSavage said:
I personally think it's still a slap in the face for all the donators. They donated with the prospect of keeping this site self-sufficient and user run. Within two months it was sold, and the talks and negotiations were happening within those two months. So within a month at the least, Dragoneer was already considering selling the site.

That just speaks poor respect for the user base. It doesn't take 10k to stop a DDoS attack. Those funds were put into site functionality, which were quickly sold.
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God damn were is the Like Button when you Need it ????
 
PheagleAdler

PheagleAdler

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RedSavage said:
Are people still bothering to argue with that humongous brown-nosed kissass PheagleAdler? Y'all could give him scanned court documents with a final verdict ordering Dragoneer and IMVU to hand out direct compensation to the parties in question, and he'd still be going, "Look, hang on, let's give 'Neer the benifit of the doubt. Just because there's signed document it doesn't mean he ..."

He's always been a tremendous whiteknighter for the Dragoneer cause and nothing short of a direct intervention to pull his head out of Dragoneer's ass and strapping him down before he dives back in is going to change that. So don't bother arguing with him it's a damned brickwall.

I hate to put it that way Pheagle, but it's the damned truth and you know it. It's one thing to go "Hmmm that's a bit troublesome. I wonder what impact it will have..." And to repeatedly defend like a wannabe defense lawyer and come to the rescue of someone who abandoned the topic long ago. Particularly when you have been handed lots of evidence pointing to something considerably fishy.

If someone tells you that you're a duck, don't beleive it.
If two people tell you youre a duck, be skeptical.
If three people tell you you're a duck, you might be willing to check for yellow feathers and a webbed feet. Cause there may be some truth to it.
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Oh, grow the fuck up. I'm getting quite sick of your asinine comments. I'm not a fucking brownnose kissasser because I disagree with your dramatic bullshit, okay?
 
PheagleAdler

PheagleAdler

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TheArchiver said:
No mention of his constant vigilance on Twitter; policing accounts he knows are either satirical (FurAffinityPR) or have bad blood with Piche (Arc)?
But what is being said in response to his mind numbing damage control is still valuable. Despite the eagle plugging his own ears and covering his own eyes, someone else who is actually an adult will take something from nrr and Runefox's rebuttals. Or at least laugh with Gryphoneer. I say continue.
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Policing? Did I tell him what to do? No, I told him why it was laughable. The guy has had a bad history with the site, I'd be surprised if he actually still had some ownership of it since he seems to hate it with a passion.
 
PheagleAdler

PheagleAdler

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Vaelarsa said:
Well, this got me to log on to the site to wipe my gallery, after a year-long hiatus, so there's that.
It was quite overdue, and I thank you for encouraging me to start spring cleaning a bit early this year.

As for the acquisition, I still think it's quite telling that even the IMVU users are worried for Furaffinity's sake.
When your own consumer base doesn't trust you, you know things are heading in ominous directions.
Reviews are often a more accurate and honest source of information than a company's PR attempts. It's good to keep that in mind.

As for the issue of whiteknighting going on in this thread:
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice...
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Oh, boo hoo...the site was sold. Good riddance, honestly. I'm waiting to see what happens.
 
mcjoel

mcjoel

Pepmurrmint Fox
PheagleAdler said:
Oh, grow the fuck up. I'm getting quite sick of your asinine comments. I'm not a fucking brownnose kissasser because I disagree with your dramatic bullshit, okay?
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PheagleAdler said:
Policing? Did I tell him what to do? No, I told him why it was laughable. The guy has had a bad history with the site, I'd be surprised if he actually still had some ownership of it since he seems to hate it with a passion.
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PheagleAdler said:
Oh, boo hoo...the site was sold. Good riddance, honestly. I'm waiting to see what happens.
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Yo phil ever here of multi quote?
 
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