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AshleyAshes

Arcade Snowmew Of Doom
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You know if this was fake, how did he not realize that at first???

One really has to wonder. The original quote is derived from FurryDrama_2 on LiveJournal where a user was musing on possible, theoretical TOS terms that IMVU might impose. A few immediately thought they were quoting something from IMVU but they quickly were all 'Oh no no, I was just musing!' yet somehow Dragoneer didn't even know it wasn't really one of the terms IMVU had imposed... You have to wonder if there's a propose new but yet unreleased TOS with contents similar to this?
 

Rowedahelicon

Banned
Banned
One really has to wonder. The original quote is derived from FurryDrama_2 on LiveJournal where a user was musing on possible, theoretical TOS terms that IMVU might impose. A few immediately thought they were quoting something from IMVU but they quickly were all 'Oh no no, I was just musing!' yet somehow Dragoneer didn't even know it wasn't really one of the terms IMVU had imposed... You have to wonder if there's a propose new but yet unreleased TOS with contents similar to this?

It all goes back to the initial comments of he probably didn't even read the damn thing. The fact that he had an answer at the ready though then later said it was fake and that they're not planning on doing anything is my favorite part of this.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
And I missed the memo that said this wasn't real language. So several possibilities are open there:

1) He didn't read the contract.

2) The contract actually does have this language in it.

3) Both.

My bet is that if 1) is true then it's probably 3).
 

Kragith Zedrok

Black and Red All Day Long
And I missed the memo that said this wasn't real language. So several possibilities are open there:

1) He didn't read the contract.

2) The contract actually does have this language in it.

3) Both.

My bet is that if 1) is true then it's probably 3).

Or from what im assuming this was a completely horrid deal, meaning the reason why they don't want to share any info is because this was a word of mouth transaction and they now have to do negotiations. The constant journal updates are annoying me a bit now.
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
Surely this of all things could be discussed or clarified publicly now that it's been leaked numerous times by Dragoneer himself? Idk
This shit is giving me a headache.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
Surely this of all things could be discussed or clarified publicly now that it's been leaked numerous times by Dragoneer himself? Idk
This shit is giving me a headache.

To be clear, I was mistaken: It wasn't leaked, it was a hypothetical comment originally posted on furrydrama_2 that Dragoneer seemed to be familiar enough with to respond to. Which means either he wasn't familiar with the contract, or there actually is something like that in it.
 
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Volkodav

Dad****er
To be clear, it wasn't leaked, it was a hypothetical comment originally posted on furrydrama_2 that Dragoneer seemed to be familiar enough with to respond to. Which means either he wasn't familiar with the contract, or there actually is something like that in it.
I wasn't really referring to that comment by that user, rather the ones Dragoneer made himself in this thread (before promptly clamming up) and the reply to that user in the screencap. If this is an NDA, he's already run his mouth quite a bit.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
I wasn't really referring to that comment by that user, rather the ones Dragoneer made himself in this thread (before promptly clamming up) and the reply to that user in the screencap. If this is an NDA, he's already run his mouth quite a bit.

That's true. I can't imagine that won him any points with his new boss, either.
 

Brass

Member
Most people have some sort of ad-blocker in place, I think. What I want to know is how (or if) IMVU will try to get around this. Will we be receiving messages to buy premium account upgrades or something like the users currently do over on IMVU?

Anything they put in place I'm sure there is something err -someone- can make to circumvent it to some degree. I have no love for IMVU. Hardly any for FA. I'm more worried about the fate of the forums honestly.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
Anything they put in place I'm sure there is something err -someone- can make to circumvent it to some degree. I have no love for IMVU. Hardly any for FA. I'm more worried about the fate of the forums honestly.

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nrr

Member
That's true. I can't imagine that won him any points with his new boss, either.

I made a remark about social and political equity back on page 14 of this thread. Those two things are finite resources, and with the kind of accountability that sits behind FA's operations now, they'll become very finite very quickly depending on the success metrics in use to gauge the business value that FA brings.
 

Brass

Member
Most people have some sort of ad-blocker in place, I think. What I want to know is how (or if) IMVU will try to get around this. Will we be receiving messages to buy premium account upgrades or something like the users currently do over on IMVU?

"To view the larger version of this image, please install our new FurAffinity Experience plugin"

Not even DA resorts to this level of stupidity.

I really wish I could help you chuckle fucks. That I could give you all a something that isn't complete bullshit in every regard. I hate to say it but this stupid fandom relies heavily on this shitty site even with all of its competitors. However the way I see it, what's done is done. Can we please talk about what we do from here on out? How do we make the best of this situation?
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
I'm more worried about the fate of the forums honestly.
That's one of my concerns as well. You can't even say "porno" over there, it has to be ****'d out.

However the way I see it, what's done is done. Can we please talk about what we do from here on out? How do we make the best of this situation?

That's what we're trying to do, but getting clear answers is like pulling teeth.
 

Brass

Member
That's one of my concerns as well. You can't even say "porno" over there, it has to be ****'d out.



That's what we're trying to do, but getting clear answers is like pulling teeth.

I mean we can just assume the worse and figure out where to go from there. But assuming and speculating too much into what's going on/what's going to happen will solve nothing and likely just piss off the mods into banning a bunch of people. I really don't think we're going to get very clear answers any time soon. MODS = GODS etc
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
Can we please talk about what we do from here on out? How do we make the best of this situation?

The obvious first step is abandon ship.

If you're not willing to do that, then the best thing you can do as an artist is to branch out to other sites and establish separate fanbases from the ground up while FA is in its transition period. That way if/when something actually does go tits-up, you have something to fall back on in the meantime while everyone reflects upon their life choices.

If possible, have and link to a "business card" page with your contact information and links to other galleries, with nice-to-haves like commission info/examples as optionals. Encourage any watchers you have on FurAffinity to watch you elsewhere, and make it a point to keep all of your galleries up to date - If this means choosing only one or two extra galleries, then so be it. Don't neglect these! If it comes down to a mass exodus for any reason, your dedicated watchers will take comfort in knowing that they won't have to figure out where you're active, and wherever they eventually settle, they'll be able to access your art.

That's kind of a doomsday scenario, but it's still a good idea to branch out as people begin to find the new ownership distasteful. While some are leaving now, others are cautiously branching out and others still are remaining where they are. As time goes on, the more artists and users who branch out, the less likely that any negative effects of the acquisition will affect you, or at least, not in a catastrophic way.
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
I'm not assuming, I'm asking questions that aren't really being answered. (Unless they're being answered on the main-site, in which case I can't see because my browser will crash due to mass amounts of comments)
Nothing I'm doing or what anybody else is doing here is ban-worthy. This thread has remained (surprisingly) civil and on-topic.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
Nothing I'm doing or what anybody else is doing here is ban-worthy. This thread has remained (surprisingly) civil and on-topic.

Tell that to whoever banned Rowedahelicon.
 

Zepher_Tensho

Lodestar
Tell that to whoever banned Rowedahelicon.

I looked at his twitter and apparently he was permabanned for "spreading rumors as facts and contributing to drama"

I other words, speculation is now bannable lol.

Guess we all gotta toe the line and know our place.
 

Runefox

Kitsune of the PC Master Race
I honestly don't get the commotion here.

If you're not an artist or if you're not someone who relies on commissions, then you're probably not going to see much point in any of this, because it doesn't affect you directly. At least, not right now.
 
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