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PheagleAdler

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I feel this needs to be pointed out because some people aren't getting it: if you are leaving because of the art theft that has recently come to light, you don't have a reason. This is not new, it is something that has gone on without being noticed for at least a few years. And let's be honest, there's probably other sites out there, that you'll never even see, that have probably stolen a decent amount of content.

Yes, I think you should file a DMCA notice for any of your work you find has been stolen, but pick another reason to leave the site, whether it be how it is run, other details regarding the sale to IMVU, etc.
 
This is the question that has been answered the least throughout this entire thread, despite being asked the most. I find it very telling that the staff hasn't answered this question yet. They are literally avoiding the question that involves stealing from the community.

IMVU is going to poison our community's view about them by being so quiet on the matter.

Edit: Looks like 'neer was on dat IMVU swag on March 4th.

https://twitter.com/Dragoneer/status/573285630874128384

Except for the part where it was one of the first questions answered, actually. He said several times that the donation drive was in October and the talks to sell began late December. So basically there were no talks, just a spur of the moment sale. Or something like that.
 
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TheGreatCrusader

Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs!
Jesus please stop. You're shilling out for a corporation that certainly doesn't deserve your defense

They already have a legal team
 

TheArchiver

Ace Documenter
I feel this needs to be pointed out because some people aren't getting it: if you are leaving because of the art theft that has recently come to light, you don't have a reason. This is not new, it is something that has gone on without being noticed for at least a few years. And let's be honest, there's probably other sites out there, that you'll never even see, that have probably stolen a decent amount of content.

Yes, I think you should file a DMCA notice for any of your work you find has been stolen, but pick another reason to leave the site, whether it be how it is run, other details regarding the sale to IMVU, etc.

Does it not occur to you that people can be put off on mere principal? The site was sold to a shady organization that 1) does not care that art is stolen on the regular 2) the site makes it as much a hassle as possible to remove stolen content.
This is reason enough to be put off. And before you pull the "well DevianArt does it too..." or whoever does the same thing, there's a difference between signing up for shady website and being absorbed into one without your knowledge.
People can pick any reason they want to jump ship. Believe me, FA provides a near infinite amount. This one is just as relevant. Please go back to polishing that shiny white armor of yours.

And we weren't born yesterday. If we talked about leaving the site for how it's run, you'd condemn and damage control that too.

And those other sites do not own FA! The implications are mindboggling. Even if IMVU plans to address these concerns in a timely and firm manner, they still did NOT act in good faith; they disrupted the site's business environment. A large percentage of the userbase, high-profile artists or otherwise, generate a substantial part of their income through FA, and IMVU as well as Piche suspended business dealings indefinitely as long as artists and clients are uncertain about the site's future due to their intransparent backroom deals. That's not how you run a web community, much less any kind of commercial enterprise!

Gracious me, Pheagle. I hope you have Gryphoneer blocked at least because the fact that you spouted such ridiculous nonsense immediately after this was posted does not help quell the claims of you being a brown noser/Dragoneer alt.
 
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mcjoel

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Dude phil it's not just the art theft while that is a major reason it was just the final straw for people.
I would list off the other problems but there is not enough time in the world to do so.
 
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TheGreatCrusader

Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs!
Real as glad that transparency report put our fears to rest!

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ADF

Member
I feel this needs to be pointed out because some people aren't getting it: if you are leaving because of the art theft that has recently come to light, you don't have a reason. This is not new, it is something that has gone on without being noticed for at least a few years. And let's be honest, there's probably other sites out there, that you'll never even see, that have probably stolen a decent amount of content.

Yes, I think you should file a DMCA notice for any of your work you find has been stolen, but pick another reason to leave the site, whether it be how it is run, other details regarding the sale to IMVU, etc.

I haven't been taking part in this discussion, just occasionally peering in, but I don't like this argument.

The difference is the theft is no longer this external entity that FA has no control over, it's now FA's owner that is relaxed in squashing art theft and is profiting from the sale of stolen work. Surely you can understand why artists would take issue with that? Short of a major clamp down on art theft on their part, people are given little reason to have faith their property will be respected.

If you were a movie producer, you wouldn't be happy to hear the piratebay has bought your publisher.
 

mcjoel

Pepmurrmint Fox
Assume they were pocketed.

Well according to neer that money is now in the hands of IMUV's financial department.
I may have not donated but I'm sure that the people who did donated the money to be used for FA and solely FA.
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
Game over. If this isn't damning as to what happened with the GoFundMe stuff, I don't know what is. At the very least it's highly suspect. At the most it's pretty much evidence.

*EDIT* Tweet was not deleted. Miscommunication on that end.


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Heeeyy it's Kazee! I know that guy <3
 
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LizardKing

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Operation: Ostrich is in full effect. Don't expect any more answers to be forthcoming at this point (as if the complete lack of responses for the last 20 pages or so wasn't a hint). I guess the choice is suck it and up and see what happens, or get out.
 

Zepher_Tensho

Lodestar

(Recent shouts)


Operation: Ostrich is in full effect. Don't expect any more answers to be forthcoming at this point (as if the complete lack of responses for the last 20 pages or so wasn't a hint). I guess the choice is suck it and up and see what happens, or get out.

Basically he's saying that he just wants everyone to forget about it and give it a rest lol. Cuz that solves everything. Just wait a few weeks and it'll magically fix itself.
 

Hermie

Member
I vote to shun Sean from the furry fandom for life.
 

TheArchiver

Ace Documenter

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Operation: Ostrich is in full effect. Don't expect any more answers to be forthcoming at this point (as if the complete lack of responses for the last 20 pages or so wasn't a hint). I guess the choice is suck it and up and see what happens, or get out.

So I have a question.

Is there anybody here, anyone at all who still doubts that Piche in fact does not care about this entire situation?
Because this is the second time he's made a callous jab towards the outraged, disappointed, and fearful community openly.
 

Zepher_Tensho

Lodestar
So I have a question.

Is there anybody here, anyone at all who still doubts that Piche in fact does not care about this entire situation?
Because this is the second time he's made a callous jab towards the outraged, disappointed, and fearful community openly.

He doesn't own the place anymore, why would he care?
 

Blitza

Member
"Pshaw, silly ingrates! I know how it goes, first they a makin' big noises, but they always come crawling back. Always! Just needa sit this one out, it will all blow over."

*opens beer can, takes a swig and commissions Digimon porn*

we have an winner were the donation Money did run, maybe not all but who knows it really. Somehow his porn, 3D Print and more must be payd and with Money Problems is that all not so easy ^^
 

mcjoel

Pepmurrmint Fox
"Pshaw, silly ingrates! I know how it goes, first they a makin' big noises, but they always come crawling back. Always! Just needa sit this one out, it will all blow over."

*opens beer can, takes a swig and gets free Digimon porn*
Fixed that for ya :V
 
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