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Roshiyu

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That is...rather jarring that underage individuals have been gaining access to material so easily on the IMVU website...ugh :( That being said, I'm glad the admins are opening their eyes and seeing this as a fatal mistake.

Funny as it is, Varsha is the PR mod on the IMVU forums. She's the one that linked to the FA main page, in there General Rating forums. With added blessing to go over, check out the art, and greet the new site that we own, ect. ect.
The person I quoted did just that, and ran straight into the wall of smut right after creating an account.
I assume they were expecting adult filters to be defaulted to on?
Either way, it's far too easy to get access to porn on FA. Kids lie about their age on the internet by default. This is going to end badly, one way or another.

*Grabs some popcorn.*
 

krystalfox77

Offcial Krystal
Funny as it is, Varsha is the PR mod on the IMVU forums. She's the one that linked to the FA main page, in there General Rating forums. With added blessing to go over, check out the art, and greet the new site that we own, ect. ect.
The person I quoted did just that, and ran straight into the wall of smut right after creating an account.
I assume they were expecting adult filters to be defaulted to on?
Either way, it's far too easy to get access to porn on FA. Kids lie about their age on the internet by default. This is going to end badly, one way or another.

*Grabs some popcorn.*


True, but at least someone admits something is amiss, unlike certain owners who shall remain anonymous. This ain't gonna be pretty. I'm gonna screencap that quote in case some embittered person deletes it. They could have a serious lawsuit on their hands.

*Goes to Costco to buy massive case of popcorn*
 
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Volkodav

Dad****er
"My shock is that Varsha posted a direct link to a site that with the entry of a user name, an email address and a password, any underage child from THIS website can access pornographic material on the FA site."

Okay well this is BS. When you sign up to FA, you enter in a birthdate and won't see 18+ art unless your birthdate is set to 18+. That's literally all a site like FA can do instead of requiring every single user to send in their driver's license or something. When users are found to be underage, they have their 18+ privileges restricted and/or are banned from the site.
This is no different from some 10 year old Googling "hot girl tity" and then clicking "yes I'm 18+" on a porn site.

The only thing FA is obligated to do is to handle minors when they crop up and restrict their access to 18+ materials. If someone came from IMVU and entered their age as 18+, what did they seriously expect?
 

Zepher_Tensho

Lodestar
"My shock is that Varsha posted a direct link to a site that with the entry of a user name, an email address and a password, any underage child from THIS website can access pornographic material on the FA site."

Okay well this is BS. When you sign up to FA, you enter in a birthdate and won't see 18+ art unless your birthdate is set to 18+. That's literally all a site like FA can do instead of requiring every single user to send in their driver's license or something. When users are found to be underage, they have their 18+ privileges restricted and/or are banned from the site.
This is no different from some 10 year old Googling "hot girl tity" and then clicking "yes I'm 18+" on a porn site.

The only thing FA is obligated to do is to handle minors when they crop up and restrict their access to 18+ materials. If someone came from IMVU and entered their age as 18+, what did they seriously expect?

Exactly. No one asks for proof of age (except scam porn sites who claim your credit card number is proof of age).
Also as far as I'm concerned IMVU is being hypocritical if they want to denounce porn since they do have porn on their site (as long as you pay to see it)
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
They're making a mistake purchasing FA if furry porn icks them out
Yeah I went through and saw the mass amounts of stolen furry porn so shut up, IMVU.
 

Zepher_Tensho

Lodestar
They're making a mistake purchasing FA if furry porn icks them out
Yeah I went through and saw the mass amounts of stolen furry porn so shut up, IMVU.

Stolen furry porn they KNOW exists but despite their "distaste" of it they won't remove it without legal documents that force them too.
 

Verin Asper

The Smart Idiot
"My shock is that Varsha posted a direct link to a site that with the entry of a user name, an email address and a password, any underage child from THIS website can access pornographic material on the FA site."

Okay well this is BS. When you sign up to FA, you enter in a birthdate and won't see 18+ art unless your birthdate is set to 18+. That's literally all a site like FA can do instead of requiring every single user to send in their driver's license or something. When users are found to be underage, they have their 18+ privileges restricted and/or are banned from the site.
This is no different from some 10 year old Googling "hot girl tity" and then clicking "yes I'm 18+" on a porn site.

The only thing FA is obligated to do is to handle minors when they crop up and restrict their access to 18+ materials. If someone came from IMVU and entered their age as 18+, what did they seriously expect?
Well IMVU is different...
you have to PAY MONEY to see +18 stuff...which they dont probably verify....so yea...both of us are in the same boat, just IMVU its 20 bucks each time, while FA is just make a new account.[/sarcasm]
edit: added a sarcasm tag just in cause
 
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Volkodav

Dad****er
If an underager is caught with a paid 18+ account, I'm sure IMVU would remove that from them as well, though.
Really, they've got no room to talk.
 
I agree this is a big ugly mess and I personally believe its only going to get uglier. Still *hugs Everyone* Hugs make everyone feel a little better at least
 

Naesaki

JRPG Fanatic
Massive ugly storm of a mess, I'd like to think when it all clears it will be nice and sunny but I think there is going to be a definite overcast for a long time to come. I honestly do really like the FA Community and Site, I'd hate to see it completely fade into obscurity.

If the mass exodus ever does happen, I actually worry that more of the same will happen to whichever site ends up with the influx of all FA members which would be Weasyl etc, the fear of the cycle repeating itself is rather high.
 
If the mass exodus ever does happen, I actually worry that more of the same will happen to whichever site ends up with the influx of all FA members which would be Weasyl etc, the fear of the cycle repeating itself is rather high.[/QUOTE]

this is a really big concern but I think that other sites are watching what happens here and seeing that the community reacts negatively to this kind of thing. So I doubt any other site is going to be willing to sell out after this fiasco. Or if they do consider selling out, it will be to other furs to keep it in the community.
 

Terror-Run

Well-Known Member
problem still...
They require a LINK to the submission being sold on their catty...
So unless that person ALSO have a link to each and every thing being sold...it aint much

Oh I know. I was thinking more of giving people peace of mind so they at least have the ability to check. And if it's there then each artist can decide which form of action they will take. Though - even if let's say a member with an AP account gets the link, then we would probably still not be able to see the content right? Doesn't that mean that the DMCA agents can't see the content either ? even with a direct link
 

Hermie

Member
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PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
Does it not occur to you that people can be put off on mere principal? The site was sold to a shady organization that 1) does not care that art is stolen on the regular 2) the site makes it as much a hassle as possible to remove stolen content.
This is reason enough to be put off. And before you pull the "well DevianArt does it too..." or whoever does the same thing, there's a difference between signing up for shady website and being absorbed into one without your knowledge.
People can pick any reason they want to jump ship. Believe me, FA provides a near infinite amount. This one is just as relevant. Please go back to polishing that shiny white armor of yours.

And we weren't born yesterday. If we talked about leaving the site for how it's run, you'd condemn and damage control that too.



Gracious me, Pheagle. I hope you have Gryphoneer blocked at least because the fact that you spouted such ridiculous nonsense immediately after this was posted does not help quell the claims of you being a brown noser/Dragoneer alt.

For a guy who frequents the forums you're not very bright are you? There are people leaving because of the theft, it's obvious they and you don't understand how the internet works, if you put something up, it could get stolen and secretly put up elsewhere. Now, there are ways to take stuff down from IMVU, and since it is known, people can do that. (kinda reminds me of some losers from DA actually, who just posted whatever the hell they found interesting, regardless of whose it was)

If you weren't born yesterday perhaps you'd actually have some sense in that tiny head of yours, calling me a white knight, brown noser, and/or Dragoneer alt shows that you clearly do not.

Dude phil it's not just the art theft while that is a major reason it was just the final straw for people.
I would list off the other problems but there is not enough time in the world to do so.

For some people, it is, I am well aware of that, but it should not be a 'straw' at all, because actually
The possibility of getting your art stolen was always there

I haven't been taking part in this discussion, just occasionally peering in, but I don't like this argument.

The difference is the theft is no longer this external entity that FA has no control over, it's now FA's owner that is relaxed in squashing art theft and is profiting from the sale of stolen work. Surely you can understand why artists would take issue with that? Short of a major clamp down on art theft on their part, people are given little reason to have faith their property will be respected.

If you were a movie producer, you wouldn't be happy to hear the piratebay has bought your publisher.

The two sites are being run independently, Dragoneer has no more control over IMVU than they do FA, and the way IMVU wants people to report art theft is not going to change because they purchased a site with some victims of art theft, unfortunately.

Meh, he's not Big Boss de Fur anymore, why would peeps still suck up to him? Cost-benefit ratio has shifted.

(Though Pheagle doesn't seem to have received the memo yet.)

Didn't say he owned it, moron. Said he ran it. He may have a boss, but that doesn't mean he has no control over FA.

What Dragoneer says v.s. evidence, all in a single image:

http://postimg.org/image/hs96ugrg7/

IMVU isn't stealing art, its users are. IMVU may be profiting, of course I have no idea how much because who even uses IMVU...
 
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Hermie

Member
Dude, you ARE a whiteknighting brown-noser. There's something called copyright law, which does in fact exist on the internet.
 

PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
"My shock is that Varsha posted a direct link to a site that with the entry of a user name, an email address and a password, any underage child from THIS website can access pornographic material on the FA site."

Okay well this is BS. When you sign up to FA, you enter in a birthdate and won't see 18+ art unless your birthdate is set to 18+. That's literally all a site like FA can do instead of requiring every single user to send in their driver's license or something. When users are found to be underage, they have their 18+ privileges restricted and/or are banned from the site.
This is no different from some 10 year old Googling "hot girl tity" and then clicking "yes I'm 18+" on a porn site.

The only thing FA is obligated to do is to handle minors when they crop up and restrict their access to 18+ materials. If someone came from IMVU and entered their age as 18+, what did they seriously expect?

Exactly, if kids want to see explicit works that bad, they're going to lie about their age, no question. Hell, some do to buy cigarettes, beer, and to get into clubs. As long as no one can tell the difference, they get away with it.
 

Hermie

Member
Did you miss the part where IMVU directly profits from the sale of the stolen art?
 

Calemeyr

Vere Adeptus
They're making a mistake purchasing FA if furry porn icks them out
Yeah I went through and saw the mass amounts of stolen furry porn so shut up, IMVU.
"But FA isn't a porn site! Most of the art is GA (even though most of it has no views)." :V Dragoneer must've said something like that during the sale. Yeah, no. FA was founded when another site banned porn.
Also, everyone, just ignore football eagle man.
 
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PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
Did you miss the part where IMVU directly profits from the sale of the stolen art?

Did you miss the part where I mentioned that? Yes.

IMVU isn't stealing art, its users are. IMVU may be profiting, of course I have no idea how much because who even uses IMVU...

If you were any further up this site anus, you'd be able to pick the bits of spinach out of its teeth.

That's called a mouth, wiseguy.
 

Smelge

Hey, Assbutt
That's called a mouth, wiseguy.

Digestive systems have two ends.

So, what you're saying is that artists shouldn't complain about the site just because FA is now owned by a company that not only benefits from stolen or plagiarised art, but actively makes it as difficult as possible to get anything done about it? But it could get stolen from any other site, yeah, but any other site isn't owned by the company profiting off of it.

I remember you from when I was last on here, and you always seemed indignant that everyone didn't pander to your every whim, so it's not surprising you lack sympathy for people who are getting screwed over. You have no moral ground to accuse people of anything when you've harassed and stalked artists for perceived slights, and even complained to the site about not being allowed to continue stalking them after they've blocked you.

To be honest, with the direction this site and it's new overlords have been heading for years, you deserve Furaffinity, and it deserves you. It must be nice to have some completely scummy public figure to admire, and aspire to be more like.
 
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PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
That's called not getting what was written.

So, what you're saying is that artists shouldn't complain about the site just because FA is now owned by a company that not only benefits from stolen or plagiarised art, but actively makes it as difficult as possible to get anything done about it? But it could get stolen from any other site, yeah, but any other site isn't owned by the company profiting off of it.

I remember you from when I was last on here, and you always seemed indignant that everyone didn't pander to your every whim, so it's not surprising you lack sympathy for people who are getting screwed over. You have no moral ground to accuse people of anything when you've harassed and stalked artists for perceived slights, and even complained to the site about not being allowed to continue stalking them after they've blocked you.

To be honest, with the direction this site and it's new overlords have been heading for years, you deserve Furaffinity, and it deserves you. It must be nice to have some completely scummy public figure to admire, and aspire to be more like.

Um, what? I've made a few mistakes with artists in the past, that doesn't give you a right to judge me. I don't pull that crap. Not like you even care, but we made up.

I don't stalk artists, if you're going to try to ruin my relationship with artists on the site, I will have you suspended. Not that any really have the time to lurk these forums anyway, but still.

And going backwards through an anus up to a mouth doesn't work, go ahead and try it.
 
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PheagleAdler

Well-Known Member
Do you... Think that people in this thread LITERALLY believe that your head is PHYSICALLY up Dragoneer's rectum...?

Judging by how well they think they know me, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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