Groveling? No. I'm doing the same thing I'm doing for other artists. I'm letting them know I'm here to help, and that we're working with them. Nothing more.
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Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
Which is dumb.
It would be far easier to set up a section on FA with the thumbnails of everything tagged as furry, and the address and link it so people can browse thumbnails and select the ones they own. It isn't on IMVU so it stays within their fucktarded paywall parameters, and it means the person who is meant to be running the site isn't pissing about browsing stuff for hours.
krystalfox77
Offcial Krystal
*Self-removed post because it only makes it worse* 
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Runefox
Kitsune of the PC Master Race
So if I check Spix's journal about the issue and how they're looking at leaving, you'll be there explaining that everything is OK and that you're personally going to work to ensure that IMVU polices this in the future (not that you have a say)?
You can be brutally honest, that's fine.
And filing DMCA is not exclusive to Americans. DMCA is honored around the globe in most countries (I don't have a list of them off hand).
That's solely to verify age, nothing more. I've been sending some users links to their art on the marketplace to help them identify what needs to be removed.
If I find about them, yes. I don't follow every user on the site, but when I see journals like that I try to assure them that we're here to help.
krystalfox77
Offcial Krystal
Oh man...oh man..... what have I....said......
Excuse me while I go weeping in a dark corner, beating myself up over my last posts on this thread
Runefox
Kitsune of the PC Master Race
Right, but proving copyright remains a big issue there compared to in the US, especially when IMVU has no submission date on any of their shop items.
So if these artists were willing to provide everything but the money, would IMVU be fine with them browsing the AP section?
AshleyAshes
Arcade Snowmew Of Doom
You had TWO MONTHS after selling FA to IMVU to look into IMVU and how it operates, to see that it is FULL of jacked furry art, that is sold and where IMVU ultimately receives all the revenue generated by it's virtual currency, why did you not spend any of that time preparing a solution for this beyond 'Waiting for it to explode and to start scowering IMVU personally, attempting to eyeball artist ownership, and messaging them to instruct them on how to issue their own DMCA'?
Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
Fixed that for you.
Yeah, it's great and all that you're taking the time to reassure people, but the problem now is that you're reassuring a few select and amazingly popular people. You either reassure everyone or no-one. You shouldn't be telling people it'll be alright on a journal by Onta, you should be doing it as loudly as possible for everyone to hear.
What happened to those town hall meetings? That's an ideal way to address users concerns. But you won't because it's harder to avoid awkward questions.
That would be a question for IMVU, but I know they're reading the forums and making a note of user concerns.
Runefox
Kitsune of the PC Master Race
In other words, you're passing the buck here despite the fact that you are an employee of IMVU and are IMVU's sole representative in this community (that we know of).
Neer, this is customer service 101. "I don't know, but I'll find out". Boom.
krystalfox77
Offcial Krystal
Are you going to help more than a select few, more than just the uber popular artists? And will you publicly reassure and address that issues at hand? Because that would be a really good way to assuage their fears
Or will you only continue to help 0.0001% of the artists who are popular? This is a serious issue that desperately needs to be addressed, a journal entry should be made.
Stop. Do not put words in my mouth.
I don't care about user popularity, I care about helping people. That's all I've ever sought to do. I don't want any user feeling that they're uncomfortable being here, or we're not here to help. We are.
And I have been doing it loudly for people to here. I've been posting on Twitter, FA, Reddit and trying to address people's concerns. We've posted multiple notices to help alleviate those issues.
Please look a few posts up. I stated I was helping people. I never once stated I was solely helping popular people.Are you going to help more than a select few, more than just the uber popular artists? And will you publicly reassure and address that issues at hand? Because that would be a really good way to assuage their fears
I help users. I don't help one kind of user, or popular users. I never have.
krystalfox77
Offcial Krystal
Yup, I'm definitely going to crawl in a dark corner, weep openly and hope that tomorrow will be a better day Damn I feel sick to my stomach....
Damn I feel sick to my stomach....
Oddly, the few times I stated "I don't know, but I'll find out for you" everyone attacked me over it. =P
But yes, we've been relaying concerns back and forth to address user worries.
AshleyAshes
Arcade Snowmew Of Doom
Let's not kid ourselves. You most certainly DO care about user popularity. You HAVE TO. It would only take the 20 most popular artists on FA to leave and setup shop elsewhere to turn FA into a ghost town within twelve months and you looking for a new job. That is HOW social networks collapse, your entire 'social' aspect of FA is dependent on having what people want to come see, lose it, and people will start moving to the places that do have what they can see. This is how MySpace from 'Declining' to 'Sinking Like A Stone' when the collapsed happened; Because enough people moved from MySpace to Facebook that those on MySpace that remained found they had less content and less connections connections, so moving to Facebook themselves was the only option. The decline was exponential in nature.
PastryOfApathy
Well-Known Member
Holy shit Dragoneer is actually answering questions (albeit in the most vague, useless, and corporate way possible)? Did I just step into another dimension?
So the solution is "if you're popular and bitch hard enough I'll get your shit taken down but everyone's shit out of luck lol XD"? If this is true you better start fucking watching me and everyone else here.
So the solution is "if you're popular and bitch hard enough I'll get your shit taken down but everyone's shit out of luck lol XD"? If this is true you better start fucking watching me and everyone else here.
Deep breath, I'm not mad. =)Yup, I'm definitely going to crawl in a dark corner, weep openly and hope that tomorrow will be a better day
I don't ban people who spread info on stolen art. I do, however, ban people who post rumor as facts, spread misinformation or try to make the situation worse. I welcome legitimate concerns.
Runefox
Kitsune of the PC Master Race
That would be because those times were times we expected an answer because they had to do with the terms of the sale and FurAffinity's future in IMVU's hands, which by all accounts you should be very familiar with. In this case, we're talking IMVU policy. While one would expect that you'd spent the past two months familiarizing yourself with it and any necessary changes to it, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on that one because it's obvious you were caught unprepared for even basic questions.
TheArchiver
Ace Documenter
Rowe's were legitimate. You just had a bone to pick with him and didn't appreciate him exposing you. RedSavage, Runefox, me, Smelge, and countless others have done the same thing for months with a viciousness far worse than Rowe.
Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
Because some of those things were pretty major and important things that should have been a major part of negotiations prior to selling your site. People attacked you because you apparently hadn't taken the time to actually familiarise yourself with important parts of the sale.
Excuse me, I'm taking no credit here. apart from today, I've been in this thread once. Namecheck the real heroes.
Hermie
Member
Fixed that for you.
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