FA/IMVU Discussion

[Featherwing15]

Then what should I do? I honest to goodness cannot draw anything noteworthy for the life of me, it's bad enough I don't have a scanner to scan artwork with lol.



Then what do you suggest for someone who can't draw?

Are you good at creating story universes? If so, I'd say to post literature on dA. I posted my first story there, and plan on uploading the cyberpunk story I'm working on as I get chapters done... There's always something from photomanips to literature, most of my deviations on dA are photos

It just seems like dA is the catchall for all types of art to me.

 

[rjbartrop]

Then what should I do? I honest to goodness cannot draw anything noteworthy for the life of me, it's bad enough I don't have a scanner to scan artwork with lol.

Why, you do whatever you want, of course.

If you do 3D stuff, post 3d stuff. If you want to draw, do worry if it's noteworthy or not. If you don't have a scanner, there are plenty of places that do. If you don't want to do any of that, read a book, play games, or do whatever it is you do want tto do. It's entirely up to do.

 

[NoahGryphon]

At least the panic has died down >_>

and im sorry that i was mean earlier im just under alot of stress lately.

 

[-Sliqq-]

That was really pointless, And would not really fit in the artist discussions since that's for artwork and critque.

Wow. Aren't you hostile?

 

[RTDragon]

Then what do you suggest for someone who can't draw?

Practice make a sketchbook thread in the tutorials & critiques section. Also draw more than just furry/anthro artwork.

At least the panic has died down >_>

and im sorry that i was mean earlier im just under alot of stress lately.

No your not from your previous replies that post was uncalled for as well as your previous post about bombing people. And you wonder why you are being called out for your behavior.

Wow. Aren't you hostile?

Remember what i said think before you post and that one word reply is pretty pointless considering you did'nt read that subsection of the creative media thread. You are proving exactly what i am talking about this is a discussion to think. Making one word reply comments does'nt make people really take you seriously. It just proves your really are indifferent and don't care much about the subject here. I would suggest for someone who joined so late in the year on FA look up it's long term history and learn why people are upset about this.

 

[Gryphoneer]

At least the panic has died down >_>

I wouldn't call it "died down," exactly. It's more like a traumatized victim having screamed so long as to have no energy to keep going.

and im sorry that i was mean earlier im just under alot of stress lately.

That's a bang-up excuse, man, right up there with dogs eating homework papers.

 

[-Sliqq-]

Remember what i said think before you post and that one word reply is pretty pointless considering you did'nt read that subsection of the creative media thread. You are proving exactly what i am talking about this is a discussion to think. Making one word reply comments does'nt make people really take you seriously. It just proves your really are indifferent and don't care much about the subject here. I would suggest for someone who joined so late in the year on FA look up it's long term history and learn why people are upset about this.

I wish I didn't care.
Just because I don't write massive lines worth of text doesn't mean I don't care about the subject. A lot of the problem with the situation is being discussed by artists, which I am not. I cannot show my showcase my ideas as an artist, because I am not an artist. I'll speak as an outsider looking in, not an insider looking infinitely inward. If I was talking like so, I'd be lying to you & everyone in this thread.

As for the history of the site, I'll look as far as I can into it. Don't expect me to know everything. Jeez.

 

[krystalfox77]

At least the panic has died down >_>

and im sorry that i was mean earlier im just under alot of stress lately.

Nice excuse, you're only apologizing because you were called out. Good day, my dear White Knight Maybe when you stop blindly following following him, and blindly defending him as well as sucking up to him, sure.

 

[Willow]

I didn't know people still used IMVU or that it was even relevant anymore

 

[krystalfox77]

I didn't know people still used IMVU or that it was even relevant anymore

Most people don't and see it as anathema, no one in their right mind would want to use IMVU for furry art.

 

[-Sliqq-]

I didn't know people still used IMVU or that it was even relevant anymore

Yeah. When I was younger I saw ads of it all the time. Also, I've only met one person who actually used IMVU. All the fun stuff seems to happen on Second Life.

 

[FenrirDarkWolf]

I think the only sorta regular user whose used IMVU other than me is Zahros

 

[Willow]

Most people don't and see it as anathema, no one in their right mind would want to use IMVU for furry art.

Or anything else for that matter..

Yeah. When I was younger I saw ads of it all the time. Also, I've only met one person who actually used IMVU. All the fun stuff seems to happen on Second Life.

Probably because SL gave its users so much freedom in the game. Admittedly I made an account on IMVU forever but only because a friend and I were bored one day. I only logged in once.

 

[RTDragon]

I wish I didn't care.
Just because I don't write massive lines worth of text doesn't mean I don't care about the subject. A lot of the problem with the situation is being discussed by artists, which I am not. I cannot show my showcase my ideas as an artist, because I am not an artist. I'll speak as an outsider looking in, not an insider looking infinitely inward. If I was talking like so, I'd be lying to you & everyone in this thread.

As for the history of the site, I'll look as far as I can into it. Don't expect me to know everything. Jeez.

Then why are you posting in this topic then or even in this forums if you don't care?

 

[Tchelline]

I wish I didn't care.
Just because I don't write massive lines worth of text doesn't mean I don't care about the subject. A lot of the problem with the situation is being discussed by artists, which I am not. I cannot show my showcase my ideas as an artist, because I am not an artist. I'll speak as an outsider looking in, not an insider looking infinitely inward. If I was talking like so, I'd be lying to you & everyone in this thread.

As for the history of the site, I'll look as far as I can into it. Don't expect me to know everything. Jeez.

So, someone is not an artist. Weeeeellll now we know why you don't seem to care very much, after all, if all artists go to hell it doesn't affect you, right?

This is a concise list of things about why Imvu represents an inminent danger to artists:

- Imvu is for children. Concerned parents will force the company to censor our porn, that is 70% of the furry artwork. You remove porn from FA and 70% of the comission sales drop immediately.

- Imvu is not going to make any profit at all from mere Ads. In the past, those weren't enough to even keep the site afloat, hence Dragoneer begged for money all the time. Thus, they are going to do things to obtain money. AND whatever they do, will reduce the purchase power of the people who comissions artists.

- Imvu resells their artwork and can make money off it. While that does not rest any coin from artists, it sure makes them immensely angry.

 

[Volkodav]

sorry guys il have something up soon, been busy and on phone the majority of the time so I haven't been able to make a directory yet

I just wanna say

- Imvu is not going to make any profit at all from mere Ads. In the past, those weren't enough to even keep the site afloat, hence Dragoneer begged for money all the time. Thus, they are going to do things to obtain money. AND whatever they do, will reduce the purchase power of the people who comissions artists.

It will be hilarious when IMVU gets an influx of swearing, sexual furries coming to their website who don't read site rules

 

[Tchelline]

sorry guys il have something up soon, been busy and on phone the majority of the time so I haven't been able to make a directory yet

I just wanna say



It will be hilarious when IMVU gets an influx of swearing, sexual furries coming to their website who don't read site rules

Considering how much furries feel betrayed by Imvu and looking at the comments of the Five journals Fender has uploaded about it, I HIIIIGHLY doubt there will be more than just a very small group of furries left with enough chairity to give Imvu a chance.

 

[-Sliqq-]

So, someone is not an artist. Weeeeellll now we know why you don't seem to care very much, after all, if all artists go to hell it doesn't affect you, right?

This is a concise list of things about why Imvu represents an inminent danger to artists:

- Imvu is for children. Concerned parents will force the company to censor our porn, that is 70% of the furry artwork. You remove porn from FA and 70% of the comission sales drop immediately.

- Imvu is not going to make any profit at all from mere Ads. In the past, those weren't enough to even keep the site afloat, hence Dragoneer begged for money all the time. Thus, they are going to do things to obtain money. AND whatever they do, will reduce the purchase power of the people who comissions artists.

- Imvu resells their artwork and can make money off it. While that does not rest any coin from artists, it sure makes them immensely angry.

Well the first thing you said, that's just silly. Do you not care about people because they're not the same as you? Do you devalue another person because it doesn't directly affect you? I think I'm being mistaken for a dense asshole who doesn't have any heart for others, and only cares for the welfare of himself in all places & all situations. Doesn't sound so pretty, does it?

I'm not sure if FA is going to have anything censored (because of the General, Mature, & Adult filters). It would be pointless to change anything that's already fixed. As a minor, I'm not allowed to see anything more provocative than what's in general. I don't know how much of the artwork produced is porn & I won't be able to know until 2 years from now. So that's that.

I'd be a bit concerned about purchase power though. That's one thing that I haven't heard or considered throughout this whole thread. I'm just wondering what exact action would cause that to happen. I'm not going to post any ideas because I don't want to give IMVU any. I'd rather the artists move to another site if that happens instead of dealing with that situation head-on. Sometimes losing a bit of cash for a minute can mean everything.

 

[RCRuskin]

I have it in writing that things will not be changing EXCEPT for the better. I'm still in charge of FA.

Going all the way back to the beginning of this: if you are still in charge, how could things possibly be changing for the better?

Also, speaking with my lawyer, I got some good news for the actual owner of FA, bad news for 'Neer and IMVu.

 

[Willow]

- Imvu is for children. Concerned parents will force the company to censor our porn, that is 70% of the furry artwork. You remove porn from FA and 70% of the comission sales drop immediately.

IMVU and FA are still two separate sites and honestly speaking the only way parents would find out about any porn on the site is if they actually have an account and kids can't see it anyway :T

- Imvu is not going to make any profit at all from mere Ads. In the past, those weren't enough to even keep the site afloat, hence Dragoneer begged for money all the time. Thus, they are going to do things to obtain money. AND whatever they do, will reduce the purchase power of the people who comissions artists.

Maybe it's just me but I kind of doubt IMVU needs money..

- Imvu resells their artwork and can make money off it. While that does not rest any coin from artists, it sure makes them immensely angry.

Nah I'm pretty sure they still can't do that. Kind of like how Yahoo can't resell art made by Tumblr users even though they own it now.

 

[RTDragon]

Well the first thing you said, that's just silly. Do you not care about people because they're not the same as you? Do you devalue another person because it doesn't directly effect you? I think I'm being mistaken for a dense asshole who doesn't have any heart for others, and only cares for the welfare of himself in all places & all situations. Doesn't sound so pretty, does it?

I'm not sure if FA is going to have anything censored (because of the General, Mature, & Adult filters). It would be pointless to change anything that's already fixed. As a minor, I'm not allowed to see anything more provocative than what's in general. I don't know how much of the artwork produced is porn & I won't be able to know until 2 years from now. So that's that.

I'd be a bit concerned about purchase power though. That's one thing that I haven't heard or considered throughout this whole thread. I'm just wondering what exact action would cause that to happen. I'm not going to post any ideas because I don't want to give IMVU any. I'd rather the artists move to another site if that happens instead of dealing with that situation head-on. Sometimes losing a bit of cash for a minute can mean everything.

Oh don't be surprised after that PR move from IMVU linking the site and showing the full blown porn basically porn get's a lot of attention a lot more then general art. The fact there are not many sites that cater to adult content. You still don't understand this. And it does'nt help matter how FA merged general and adult into one section which makes things a lot worse then it already is. It was far better off with the old version. And i can see what this can cause as well. It's not really silly Sliqq but it's a real possibility this could happen.

 

[-Sliqq-]

Oh don't be surprised after that PR move from IMVU linking the site and showing the full blown porn basically porn get's a lot of attention a lot more then general art. The fact there are not many sites that cater to adult content. You still don't understand this. And it does'nt help matter how FA merged general and adult into one section which makes things a lot worse then it already is. It was far better off with the old version. And i can see what this can cause as well.

I didn't hear of IMVU linking FA or showing porn like that. Ain't that something? Uhhh... Don't know what to say after that, but yes I can expect sex to sell, & I guess that's what's being taken advantage of. As much as I want to say "hide your cubs & hide your porn" I don't see that happening any time soon.

t's not really silly Sliqq but it's a real possibility this could happen.

I was referring to this:

So, someone is not an artist. Weeeeellll now we know why you don't seem to care very much, after all, if all artists go to hell it doesn't affect you, right?

I don't know exactly what was trying to be said here, but It didn't feel nice. I'll tell ya' that.

 

[RTDragon]

@Sliqq Go back a few threads a user mentioned this and posted a link to the results of that You might have not paid attention to that subject.

And please grow a thicker skin considering you did insult artists that actually do commissions a few threads ago.

 

[-Sliqq-]

@Sliqq Go back a few threads a user mentioned this and posted a link to the results of that You might have not paid attention to that subject.

And please grow a thicker skin considering you did insult artists that actually do commissions a few threads ago.

Threads? Fuck!

I don't remember ever actively insulting artists. I have no need to & I don't want to. In my opinion, those artists are great & I hope to draw like them some day.

Thicker Skin? This isn't yesterday RT.

 

[krystalfox77]

Can people cease discussing and arguing about this ad nauseum?