FA/IMVU Discussion
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Roshiyu
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The problem, actually lies in IMVU's previous actions. It's target audience is younger teens, and they host a more adult section for adults.
When parents found out about this, there was an uproar. IMVU was then forced to create a very strict verification system which includes:
Picture ID.
Social Security #
Cash payment ($20)
Compare that to FA's verification policy? An honor system that merely asks a person not to lie about their birthday?... And we have far more explicit adult content then IMVU will ever allow.
When parents find out about FA, well, they say history repeats itself.
When parents found out about this, there was an uproar. IMVU was then forced to create a very strict verification system which includes:
Picture ID.
Social Security #
Cash payment ($20)
Compare that to FA's verification policy? An honor system that merely asks a person not to lie about their birthday?... And we have far more explicit adult content then IMVU will ever allow.
When parents find out about FA, well, they say history repeats itself.
GalaxyBlessed
Member
this is precisely what I was talking about, when parents discover that the site their kids have been using bought a porn site and it uses little more than the honor system that is when the backlash will start
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
Remember when this thread was about finding answers and discussing possible changes instead of childish bickering?
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
Pepperidge Farm remembers...
Unfortunately, the Farm got burned down yesterday because a few guys got trigger happy with their flame wars... Sigh.
Yet, we will rebuild. Pepperidge Farm always rebuilds.
I didn't lie about my age and as such had my ability to view mature content locked until I turned 18. Sending a picture of myself and my photo ID verifying my age wasn't difficult, in itself
waiting a few months for the ticket to be addressed, however, was the grueling part xD
RTDragon
RTP User
I remember there was something like this when a user was suspended and had to do that let me see if i can find it... Here it is. https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/105826 You can see how that turn out.
This must be the most stupid comment in the whole thread after the ones made by Neer himself.
You can the anti-dragoneer people communists, but you ignore that Dragoneer has ran this site like a complete dictator, NEVER listening to people, always doing as he pleases like a modern Mussolini. So yeah, those who dislike him are much more people in favor of democracy and human rights, because if any person in this website mirrors communism and dictatorship at it's best is nobody else but Dragoneer himself.
Ryu Deacon
Director of Furry Statistics
Il just put this here not sure if its been discussed but herd there was some playing the lawyer card fuw pages back.
The major topic originally here was about the stolen art on IMVU and how to deal with it in addition to the imminent risk of IMVU farther down the line overriding Dragoneers care-taking(for that is what he is now) and changing the site, well has anyone considered just tackling the problem at the root and getting the site(IMVU) shut down rather then just do with IMVUs ineffective DMCAs. It should be remembered that sites have been shut down before who harbored copyright infringement and have been funded by such... just sayin>>
Do not be distracted and blind sited away from the propose of this discussion.
The major topic originally here was about the stolen art on IMVU and how to deal with it in addition to the imminent risk of IMVU farther down the line overriding Dragoneers care-taking(for that is what he is now) and changing the site, well has anyone considered just tackling the problem at the root and getting the site(IMVU) shut down rather then just do with IMVUs ineffective DMCAs. It should be remembered that sites have been shut down before who harbored copyright infringement and have been funded by such... just sayin>>
Do not be distracted and blind sited away from the propose of this discussion.
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Let me put this simple: the furries come here for no other reason than watching erotic art. Artists post here with no other reason than becoming famous eough to sell personalized erotic art. There are a few exceptions, but that's the vast reality of our community. We have NOTHING to do with underages (at least not the people who are not into pedo-stuff, that is illegal anyways).
PheagleAdler
Well-Known Member
No, I don't.
Ozriel
Inglorious Bastard
Two things:
Quit derailing the thread and quit it with the insults. Next report/post I see, the user will receive a 1-day vacation from the forums. If it continues, I am closing it. You are free to discuss, criticize tactfully, etc.
If you can't do that and have to resort to shit-flinging tactics, you are gone.
Quit derailing the thread and quit it with the insults. Next report/post I see, the user will receive a 1-day vacation from the forums. If it continues, I am closing it. You are free to discuss, criticize tactfully, etc.
If you can't do that and have to resort to shit-flinging tactics, you are gone.
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Fawk
I don't like people
That statement is untrue.
Firstly, if FA was specifically for erotic art, there would not be a SFW option on the site.
Secondly, there are plenty of artists on FA who will not even draw NSFW art, I even watch a quite a few of them.
Please do not assert your reasons for using a site onto everyone.
GalaxyBlessed
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I understand that FA has some SFW but lets face it FA is a porn site It is labeled as such by paypal, and they even ban your account and the artists if you so much as mention Fur Affinity. Yes this site hosts some clean artwork and artists that post clean artwork, But the Majority of this site is pornographic. I know there are SFW here but they are the vast minority. FA is a Pornographic site and is labeled as such by google and by Paypal. children really have no business here because FA has the most laxed Verification based solely on the honor system. Any child can count to 18 and lie about their age to gain access and in fact that sort of thing happens all the time.
I would not in all honesty want a child to view 80% of the content on this site. that being said, This site does for most intents and purposes sell and post erotic art. The statement is not entirely true but in all honesty is closer to the truth then not. FA is for all intents and purposes a Site of pornogrphic art, and has some of the darkest fetishes known, save for a few banned types of fetishes. Children really do not need to be exposed to what all is seen here. I know IMVU has some adults as well as kids, but the main demographic there is teens. Yes there are some great content creators and adults as well.
I have been over to the IMVU forums and watched their thread on the FA purchase, even IMVU members are shocked by this and rather upset that they posted in GA area a link to what they would consider a pornographic site. I am not one that Thinks IMVU is full of thieves, there are some thieves there, but not everyone is a thief. Every community has its bad apples, but I have to agree that FA is not a site designed for kids, nor would I want to find a child here. Sure they slip in sometimes and if they are wise never say a word about it. but the truth is IMVU's age verification is Super strict, and we do not really want to see them try to enforce us to go through that kind of hoops here paywalls and locks which they are famous for, would kill this site.
FA is Mainly For Erotic Pornographic art there are some that are not but the MAIN Demographic of FA is Pornogrphic.
I would not in all honesty want a child to view 80% of the content on this site. that being said, This site does for most intents and purposes sell and post erotic art. The statement is not entirely true but in all honesty is closer to the truth then not. FA is for all intents and purposes a Site of pornogrphic art, and has some of the darkest fetishes known, save for a few banned types of fetishes. Children really do not need to be exposed to what all is seen here. I know IMVU has some adults as well as kids, but the main demographic there is teens. Yes there are some great content creators and adults as well.
I have been over to the IMVU forums and watched their thread on the FA purchase, even IMVU members are shocked by this and rather upset that they posted in GA area a link to what they would consider a pornographic site. I am not one that Thinks IMVU is full of thieves, there are some thieves there, but not everyone is a thief. Every community has its bad apples, but I have to agree that FA is not a site designed for kids, nor would I want to find a child here. Sure they slip in sometimes and if they are wise never say a word about it. but the truth is IMVU's age verification is Super strict, and we do not really want to see them try to enforce us to go through that kind of hoops here paywalls and locks which they are famous for, would kill this site.
FA is Mainly For Erotic Pornographic art there are some that are not but the MAIN Demographic of FA is Pornogrphic.
Verin Asper
The Smart Idiot
this site was born due to another site banned porn...
theres no real way past that no matter what
the only reason the SFW setting came about (after several years without it) is due to folks wanting to visit this site while out in public but no real way to do so...thats ALSO why FA started to get a bit more on icons too as in the past they didnt care...
PheagleAdler
Well-Known Member
...you do know a majority of the art is rated "General", don't you?
There are many people on here for stuff other than porn. I'm not gonna argue about how the site came about, sure it was from the downfall of Sheezyart, but at the same time FA is not strictly a porn site, and I think it was mentioned earlier that PayPal does NOT label FA as a porn site, nor do they actually ban people for mentioning it.
Ah, here's the quote:
There are many people on here for stuff other than porn. I'm not gonna argue about how the site came about, sure it was from the downfall of Sheezyart, but at the same time FA is not strictly a porn site, and I think it was mentioned earlier that PayPal does NOT label FA as a porn site, nor do they actually ban people for mentioning it.
Ah, here's the quote:
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Croconaw
#1 Most Requested Croconaw
Search any character, species or show, and I assure you, the images that will have the highest view and favorite count will always be the porn of it.
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Just for fun, search "Digimon" with popularity being the sort function. That's PAGES of nothing BUT porn top favs/views before you hit a clean image that isn't just a prelude to a narse sex comic.
Let's face it: FA's main attraction is the porn with a side of community
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Gryphoneer
20 Quatloos on "disruptive"
For the sake of the discussion it may be advisable to put a moratorium on replying to Pheagle and Noah. The former's tactic had been early on to suppress dissent by spreading FUD a lá "guyz GUUUYYYYZZZ if you say too many mean words (aka rock the boat too much) they will lock the thread!", but since that failed they shifted to actively flaming in order to provide an excuse for locking the thread to the loyalist mods.
Don't let their scheme succeed.
Don't let their scheme succeed.
Croconaw
#1 Most Requested Croconaw
Tbh, the pieces are already set in motion. Answers won't be provided (well, a good chunk of the questions asked here will go without response) and things will not shift gears from what was originally intended.
All we can do now is sit back and watch things unfold for better or for worse.
All we can do now is sit back and watch things unfold for better or for worse.
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