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FAP gone???

Ty Vulpine

Well-Known Member
Okay, I'm stunned...Furry Art Pile suddenly shut down without warning, and looks like it's permanent, according to the sign on the site.
 
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jayhusky

Guest
Wow, that was really unexpected and yes it is gone for good....

ANY remaining artists on the site can still login and collect there art and fav'ers can still do the same....

for all those FAP'ers

R.I.P FAP
 

dave hyena

A wonderous moorhen
If you had submissions there, you can go here:

http://www.furryartpile.com/artists.php

to retrieve them. & you can download your +Fav's from there, here:

http://www.furryartpile.com/connoisseurs.php

The message which was left to explain why FAP has closed was thus:

Goodbye, Furry Art Pile

FAP started two years ago to satisfy an itch, to be a better art website. For furries.

In this time, FAP grew into a very fun project. I developed solutions to very difficult technical problems, created new user interfaces, and learned a lot about maintaining a social website.

Two years later, this isn't fun for me anymore. I spend too much time everyday developing new features and optimizing the code to perfection; I never have time for my other projects. (Trust me, they're awesome projects).

So, I'm closing FAP.

Thank you for using FAP,

Dylan

PS:

FAP will continue to host files until the end of the month (when the donations run out).

Artists can download their galleries by using this tool: artists.php

Connoisseurs can download their favourites by using this tool: connoisseurs.php

http://www.furryartpile.com/
 

Delian

Member
It was bound to happen. When only one person is working on a project, he can make it work very nice, consistent and efficient. But unfortunately, when only one person is working on a project, he will soon get overburdent.
 

Dragoneer

Site Developer
Site Director
Administrator
One of the most unfortunate aspects of FAP's closure is the impact it has on the artists. Especially those who migrated from FA to go to FAP after our recent outage. Many cleared out galleries, burned bridges, moved on. Only to have this happen, without any sort of warning or notice.

And they're the ones that truly suffer from this "I got bored" incident.
 

Ahkahna

Little Miss Sunshine
Funny how this was the same person who was rather persistent about making FAP a better community site yet failed to even mention closing to those who wanted to be a part of it. At least we warn our users when we need to make changes or there is an expected outage or hand over the site to someone else who would be glad to manage it rather than, you know, closing it when it becomes "boring".
 

Grimfang

Well-Known Member
It's a bit odd to see this, especially after the rash of FA vs FAP bashings. I'd like to be a good sport about this as I really have no desire to flame on the topic.

I'm just glad FA has stuck around through the difficulties and ragings of some users, and I'm glad I never burned that bridge myself.

Cheers, Dragoneer. You deserve a cigar and a glass of some fine wine tonight ;)
 

Cmdr-A

Adeptus Astartes
Not really surprised. I really didn't like the interface completely myself either..and FA was just way much more fun anyway.

Though funniest thing is. A few friends were just yesterday and last night talking about going there as their new main account and having FA as a semi less active account xD Can't wait to see their faces when they find out the news.
 

Delian

Member
Btw, it's possible that FAP wasn't closed down for such a simple reason as a developer getting bored. I belive it's highly possible that the main reason were the database problems. It's possible that he was unable to restore the comments. And instead of taking the shame, he "proudly" took the site offline.

I think this makes a lot of sense. I'm not blaming him, but I wonder if it was the right decision..
 
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I havn't been a part of FAP long, but sad to see it go down.
 
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OssumPawesome

Ossumest Possumest
And they're the ones that truly suffer from this "I got bored" incident.


That seems like gross oversimplification of why he closed the site down. I'd be pretty damn frustrated too if I put a shitload of hardwork into a site for two years, developing lots of tools that simply don't exist on any other furry website, only to see that FA remains most popular.

If you poured 2 years of effort and development into FA only to see FAP win the people's favor with fewer features, your reaction might be similair.
 

ToeClaws

PEBKAC exterminator
This sorta stuff happens to all sorts of small-business/charity ventures. When the decision to pull the plug rests with one person or a small group, then there's always the potential that it can happen. What's unfortunate about this situation is that it came with little warning, and as Dragoneer said, that'll likely cause some burnt bridges. I hope though everyone that felt that way can shrug it off and go back to sharing out their work.
 

salmy

Loner Cheetah not wolf! :P
If you poured 2 years of effort and development into FA only to see FAP win the people's favor with fewer features, your reaction might be similair.

That's not a valid reason, either. I mean, even if FA has less functionality or features than FAP that doesn't mean FAP is gonna be more popular. What makes FA more popular is, for one, the fact that it won't discriminate *any* type of kinks. FAP got its userbase pretty much after the cub controversy here. So people went there because they were more with the site owner's phylosophy and it's obvious that the majority of furs is against discrimination of any kind and that's why they remain here.

Maybe if FAP had been as open to everyone as FA is things would have been different, or maybe not. Running a site like that alone is crazy, even running a small php-nuke community is. Lots of things to do for a 'single' admin. More than saying 'it's not fun anymore' he should have been bolder and say 'it's not worth it anymore', because I'm sure it's never been 'fun' because doing admin stuff is *never* 'fun', but boring, tedious and a very ungrateful task.

I dunno about FAP's userbase, but I'd say it had its thousands of users and prolly thousands of pageviews per day, and maybe hundreds of new submissions per day too.. had I been the owner, I'd have looked for people who wanted to take care of the site prior to just shut it down. I suppose that's what he did, because if he didn't, well, he's a real jerk. You can't create a community and then play being God by destroying it whenever you fancy, even if you did all the code and design. A community is something alive, something that *everybody* makes. You only provide them with the tools, and if you succeed in making a big community you can feel very proud of it, but if you try to destroy it, you're being nothing else than the worst m*f*. Pretty much like if you had a son and you try to raise him good and all and at some point you decide to kill him just because he is yours (in the case that was not illegal, I mean).

Even though I was annoyed as hell while all of FA's outage and the decissions they made and the priorities and the way they brought it back up, I gotta say something in behalf of the admins here: they know what a community is, and they are not going to just 'leave'. For me, it's enough reason to remain here.

Now, it'd be nice if there was a serious alternative to FA out there that has the *same* philosophy (so it's valid for all FA's userbase without discriminating anyone) and that has a better coding and features. Then I'm sure Dragonair and co. would really put more effort in making FA better from the technical point of view. If Yak alone can't do it, well.. bring more coders! A good ammount of furs are geeky programmers, it can't be so difficult :p

So, in short, I don't think that just closing up the site was a good decision at all and it really says nothing good about the owner. Now all the effort he put on it for 2 years means absolutely nothing. The only thing he did, in the end, was to feed a lot of people's expectations and bring them up to heaven only to drop them from even higher. Waaaay to go, FAP!
 
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Grimfang

Well-Known Member
The only reason I had held off on joining up is because I don't like what could be a fleeting trend. And the site functionality was great, but it somehow didn't sit well with me. I think it's easier to create search jazz with a smaller base of members though.

It was a good run.

Maybe the FA staff should consider doling out pardons xP
 

Quiet269

Member
I wonder how many images and what not he has up on there?

I feel bad for anyone that might be gone on vacation and loses their favorites or submissions...

Maybe we/me/someone can get a copy of the files to host as a stand still so people can get their files out.
 

Fuzzypaws

Less Than Three
I wonder how many images and what not he has up on there?

I feel bad for anyone that might be gone on vacation and loses their favorites or submissions...

Maybe we/me/someone can get a copy of the files to host as a stand still so people can get their files out.

Well for example, several of my friends are at Eurofurence right now. They're going to come home after the "grab your stuff by the end of the month" deadline is passed and FAP is gone for good.
 
What makes FA more popular is, for one, the fact that it won't discriminate *any* type of kinks. FAP got its userbase pretty much after the cub controversy here. So people went there because they were more with the site owner's phylosophy and it's obvious that the majority of furs is against discrimination of any kind and that's why they remain here.

I know I'm nitpicking and this is after the fact but still... until about 1 month ago cub art wasn't banned on FAP. There wasn't anything in the TOS or guidelines about it even though there were other specific rules. He changed this month ago though(or has it been already 2 months now?) without any public notice what so ever.

I bet that year ago some people felt a bit stupid after reading the TOS, having burned some bridges and seeing cub porn show up on FAP's search.
 

yak

Site Developer
Administrator
FA would not mind hosting the files for a while, so the people could download them.
 

xiath

Rocket to your face.
whoa, that sucks. Now I have motivation to put all of my stuff onto FA (I was going to, but I got lazy)
 
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