Filter for NSFL content

[Deleted member 160111]

Listen, but this is not funny at all. Everyone has different tastes, I understand that, but why can an ordinary user who has turned off the SFW filter be shown downloads with caprophilia or zoophilia.
Satan is omnipresent, OBVIOUSLY there is adult content, and there is content that can harm EVEN adults. And this is it. NSFL.
Why wouldn't the site administration try to introduce this category, and even better, if downloads in this category are regularly moderated by fearless volunteers with a steel psyche.

If this issue has been raised (almost certainly), move my message there.
Thanks for attention.

 

[quoting_mungo]

The way you've presented it this is a terrible idea. Finer control over what one sees is all fine and well (and some form of tag blocking is in the works), but designating any content as "Not Safe For Life" is not how you create a space where creatives feel safe and welcome. Until native tag blocking is implemented, I'd recommend curating your own inbox by following artists who create the kind of content you do want to see, and otherwise browsing by using the Search function (where you can exclude keywords to avoid whatever it is you find so off-putting that you want to avoid even seeing a thumbnail).

 

[Deleted member 160111]

is not how you create a space where creatives feel safe and welcome.

I must have expressed myself incorrectly. I don't want to label absolutely all adult content as NSFL.
I want coprophilia, guro, bestiality and other extreme fetishes to be there.

 

[quoting_mungo]

I must have expressed myself incorrectly. I don't want to label absolutely all adult content as NSFL.
I want coprophilia, guro, bestiality and other extreme fetishes to be there.

That doesn't change anything. If you're going to arbitrarily call some content so objectionable that it's "Not Safe For Life," you create an atmosphere that legitimizes hostility towards creatives based on what work they create, and that fosters a hierarchical view of what content is "worse" based on some person's arbitrary decisions in drawing the line for what falls under that umbrella. Like, FA's already had issues with people acting extremely hostile in comments to controversial or niche kink content from time to time. Don't need to add more fuel to that particular fire.

Like, f-chan has its /a/ (alt) and /ah/ (alt-hard) boards, and even there, where at least the designations aren't derogatory, it's quite clear if you pause to think about it that what goes on what board is ultimately determined by the personal preferences of one or a few people. It's one thing to separate out explicitly sexual content as in FA's Adult category, because that is relatively straightforward to define without getting into too much in the way of value judgments.

You can separate out other content in a way that doesn't suggest that content is lesser, or an acceptable target. It needs to be done with a lot of thought and is probably better done with a system similar to the "mandatory tagging" on Inkbunny (content that features certain subject matter must tag that subject matter in a manner specified by the site) than some sort of tiered system. If a tiered system is used making sure it doesn't read as condemnation of the work in the more "extreme" tiers has to be a priority.

 

[The_Happiest_Husky]

not safe football league

 

[Troj]

Realistically, Mungo's right that we can't just label things we or even "most people" would classify as "Not Safe For Life," or else everyone will start squabbling over what should or shouldn't be included on that list.

If we're just memeing, of course I've seen and learned things that I wish I could now delete from my brain, and I'd definitely include several of the things already mentioned above on that list, plus stuff I'll graciously avoid planting in y'all's brains.

 

[Deleted member 160111]

we can't just label things we or even "most people" would classify as "Not Safe For Life," or else everyone will start squabbling over what should or shouldn't be included on that list.

I can't agree with you (although I understand your position), but who am I to argue.

and some form of tag blocking is in the works

Sigh. Hell, in this case I'll just hope that the filtering/blacklisting feature will appear... well, sometime sooner than 5 years from now.
Goodbye NSFW, forever. ∠( ᐛ 」∠)_

 

[Troj]

I, too, would love to see a filtering/blacklisting feature on FA and other sites, because I very much appreciate it when it's available.

 

[Smityyyy]

I swear… people have been asking for a blacklist feature on FA for years now. Who knows when it’ll turn up. Although, I’ve heard some people say that some web extensions exist to fulfill this purpose.

 

[SaltyDog169]

I'm not defending scat fetish, I'm just saying, does it really deserve to be categorized together with zoophilia?

 

[Crimcyan]

Not safe for Luigi

 

[JozeffTech]

Sorting content like that is a terrible idea. Everyone has their own level of psychic durability, and you try to discriminate art for everyone based on your own preferences. It's like the eternal struggle of vore - should it be considered SFW or NSFW? Everyone decides on their own, but there would be a lot of argument if someone tried to enforce their own classification of what is and what is not safe.
And on the subject of blacklist. I think it's not going to work, because it relies on tags. A surprising amount of folks don't bother with tags at all - we're not e6, and unless some basic tagging lines are applied, blacklist would be almost useless.

 

[Pomorek]

Agreed with those who say that blacklisting would be a welcome feature, but also agree that it would probably have trouble working in practice. The people already being bad at setting a correct NSFW category probably wouldn't care about correct tags.

The standard advice seems to be: don't go to the main site and instead base your discovery of new art on other people's favorites. If you find some people with similar taste in art as you, the chance is high that their favorites will appeal to you as well. Through them, you can discover further and further artists that you might like, and so on.

One web extension that makes it easier to use the others' favorites has been posted on here, quite a while ago:

https://forums.furaffinity.net/threads/fa-favs-an-open-source-extension-for-subscribing-to-favorites-feeds.1673499/

 

[Deleted member 160111]

Thank you all for your opinion. I will learn not to use search.

 

[quoting_mungo]

Thank you all for your opinion. I will learn not to use search.

On the contrary, you should learn to use search to its full potential. Yes, it will miss the odd submission that doesn’t have your excluded terms anywhere in its tags, title, or description, but you can absolutely choose to exclude the terms you don’t want to see.

What you may want to avoid is the front page and the browse page.

 

[Deleted member 160111]

What you may want to avoid is the front page and the browse page.

Thanks for the advice, I'll try to avoid that too.

 

[Inferndragon]

Yeah the browsing page/front page is usually full of people trying to skirt the rules a few times. Since you get people posting adult content under the SFW tag.
I tend to browse the most recent submissions on the furaffinity page to see if there are people posting NSFW content under the SFW tag to report.

 

[Smityyyy]

I’ve never understood the argument that a blacklist wouldn’t help much because people tag improperly sometimes. Well… yeah… obviously on a site where proper tagging isn’t enforced, it won’t always work very well. However, most posts I come across are tagged properly. And as far as I know, extensions that work as a ‘blacklist’ have been reported to help massively.

I don’t know. Just happens that every time someone brings up wanting a basic tag blacklisting feature, several replies will go on about how it doesn’t matter because people tag improperly… meanwhile that’s sort of a minority occurrence.

 

[Bluefangcat]

A more accurate sorting system for these types of things would be beneficial to both the site and its users. But as other folks have said here, classifying things together under a 'not safe for life' umbrella would likely lead to a lot of issues.. Perhaps a return to squick? It fills the same niche, has been widely used in fandom spaces for ages, and there tends to be a more common consensus on what it entails.