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Important: Forum Closure, FA Discord Coming Soon

Extremely disappointing news. Discords are useful, but they really cannot operate the same way as forums. While you can absolutely organize channels by their topics, conversations will still often be too messy to stay coherent, especially if the discord is even remotely busy.
I’ve gotten used to Discord, so I can live with that.
 

Yakamaru

Silly McFly
Forums as a form of communication/platform have been dying for years, and I've said this repeatedly. This forum's activity and active members have dropped over the past 6 years by quite a lot so this doesn't come as a surprise to me. Was only a matter of time, but it still makes me very sad to see a place I've called home since early 2016 being retired. Time changes everything and it's on you to adapt to the changing times or end up being left behind.

I've met a ton of lovely people here and made a lot of friends, so I am always going to be grateful for this place having existed for as long as it have.
 
People are pissed, that's fair, but at least we're getting a heads-up. They could have just yanked the FAF down, leaving a message saying, sorry it wasn't working out, bye. Start sending out some DMs, ask your friends for their socials, emails etc. there really isn't any need to loose touch with anyone over this, FAF was just another method of communication after all.
I’m not pissed.
 

Khafra

Heave away, haul away
Time to start archiving my bookmarks I spose. There are some neat materials for artists and writers here that I'd still like to access.
I'll give the "forum" functionality of discord a shot, but I doubt I'll stick around. The lack of links to threads, easily accessible bookmarks, post history or account customization options combined with the tendency of discord to push away everyone who can't afford to spend all day on it is just too much for me. Not to mention shady data collection practices. I get the reasoning, though from personal experience, even if many more people join the discord, once everything settles, it's still going to be a clique of 100-50 people who make for almost all activity and flood the chatrooms, and the occasional newcomer who tries to fit in and usually fails.

Yay for the discordisation of communities. Rest in peace forums. I'll be reminiscing about this one and others from the early internet days like some grumpy old man till I die. And I know I don't really interact with people much, but it's been fun hanging out with the lot of you here. Take care.
 
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Deleted member 160950

Guest
Requesting my Fur Affinity Forums account to be deleted
 

ben909

vaporeon character != mushroom characters
wait, did i read that the faf archive won't be available for most to see?
 

ben909

vaporeon character != mushroom characters
No, he means we can't share the root files.
ok, just wanted to be sure before i spend hours trying to get my computer to log every post in predator and prey somehow and buying another hdd for it , if its even possible
 

Pomorek

Antelope-Addicted Hyena
once everything settles, it's still going to be a clique of 100-50 people who make for almost all activity and flood the chatrooms
Yeah, I don't quite understand the assumption that the userbase will soar in numbers after the transition. There's nothing stopping people from joining the forums as they are, and they do keep joining, with some recent "wave" of newcomers even. It will be funny if the Discord userbase turns out to be pretty much the same as now, minus those who get put off completely, or are technically unable to join.

I understand, I do... and I'm sorry. I know this isn't easy as there are a small, but hardcore core group who called FAF their home.

We're working to make things better for FA long term, and we know this isn't the news people expected, but we hope you'll give us a chance. Our Discord team has put a lot of time into trying to make this transition smoother and did so with the forum crew in mind.

It was a hard decision for me to make. I started these forums way back when. I was just a user. Ended up a forum mod. Became an admin. Then the head guy in charge. This is a big slice of my history in the fandom, and kind of my origin story. So... on a personal level, yeah. I feel it. I do. But I also know we're working on some cool things for the future, and we've got a really motivated and eager team with a lot of great ideas.
Thank you for saying this. I wish this had been stated earlier in this thread, we could have avoided some of the "bad blood".

Admittedly I got pretty roused last evening. It's not of any importance in the grand scheme of things, but this forum was the only "social medium" that such a recluse as myself really wanted to use. You've got quite an achievement here, you know.

Also, the administration is your burden alone and therefore your call - but since you guys decided on an abrupt switching of the platforms, then the 2 weeks of notice is really on the short side. A month at least would be more adequate from a user's standpoint. Otherwise, the transition which could have been more "organic" becomes disruptive. The way things are, it could equally have been right after this weekend. Who knows if it wouldn't have been better, now we're suddenly getting this awkward period when it kinda doesn't "pay off" to interact in the forums any more, but we have no alternative yet...

Still, since the shots have been called and triggers pulled, it is what it is. Being more calm today, I took a look at the stuff that rolls through the "new posts" section. And well, vast majority of this actually fits instant messaging medium well enough. If not more naturally even. All the forum games, all the threads focused on what's going on right now (vents, off-topic chats, "what happened recently/today", this kind of things), probably the art advertisement & interaction as well. But there remains the minority of topics that are more in-depth, slow and long-running, and incidentally this is the kind I was most likely to take part in. I wonder if we're not losing this.

Now: while personally I might seem to "ruffle my mane" more than necessary, this is just unfortunate way I roll (also a huge reason why I play striped hyena here). But at the end of the day, I give people and things the benefit of doubt. I admit I'm getting curious what you guys have brewed up over there. I even have a loosely comparable example from my own corner of 3D graphics. Blender, the program I use, have been through several huge overhauls through its history. And every time the users cry out loud, pissed off by this or that change. It got especially bad when the program was re-coded from scratch and all manners of teething problems erupted afterwards, which took about a year to stabilize. Yet in the long run, this has enabled things nobody was earlier dreaming about.

But here the concern remains and will remain unless invalidated by experience, will such slow thinker as myself be able to adapt to this "brave new world"?...

Because not gonna lie, it might just end up something like this:
 

ben909

vaporeon character != mushroom characters
Timany more people join the discord, once everything settles, it's still going to be a clique of 100-50 people who make for almost all activity and flood the chatrooms, and the occasional newcomer who tries to fit in and usually fails.
not to support the side i am not a fan of, bit from their pov i doubt that matter, 50-100 people sustained by a discord does not require the resources that 50-100 people sustained by something they posted
 

redhusky

Emperor of Floof! King of the Rats and Spamlord!
On this, you definitely are NOT deleting everything on Jan 1st? It'll just be that no one can post anything new? So more of an "archiving"? If so, are there plans to end up erasing everything later? If so, I recommended doing what Yahoo Groups, and other services, did and archiving their content on archive.org. It'll allow users to download/view the content later and relieve FA of the cost of hosting it. Why pay for something you're not actively using, yes? Plus if you do erase everything and you want to bring back the forums later you'll have a "checkpoint" already saved. Naturally this won't include things like the DMs. Just for things like the threads and such.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I don't quite understand the assumption that the userbase will soar in numbers after the transition. There's nothing stopping people from joining the forums as they are, and they do keep joining, with some recent "wave" of newcomers even. It will be funny if the Discord userbase turns out to be pretty much the same as now, minus those who get put off completely, or are technically unable to join.
The reason many people (myself included) are operating on the assumption that the Discord will have a larger userbase is that it’s going to be not just the replacement for FAF, but also the official Discord for FA as a whole.

Like, I believe that FA has had an official or semi-official Telegram group chat at least at some point, and I got the impression that it was fairly active.
 

Green_Brick

Krita user
Unfortunate, but it's the facts. Forums are not as popular as they once were in the 2000s, or even 2010s. If this is due to reallocation of system resources, then I totally understand.

I'm glad I met some great people on here and I'm contact with some amazing artists before the forums got shut down! They will forever be on my Discord contact list! :D
 

ssaannttoo

Joy Boi
Im saying this for the meme, cause I was on the toilet and thought about it and now everybody needs to know my thoughts

BUT

because you're taking down faf, and putting the one dev to focus the main site, does that mean we finally get a black list and better search queries?
 

ssaannttoo

Joy Boi

Smityyyy

Well-Known Member
It was hard for me to let go of forums as a medium… but they’re a time bygone. I used to be a member of many forums for many years. Slowly, each died off and closed down. This was the last forum I have spent my time in. Been on here and around since 2015ish. I figured it was only a matter of time before this place shut down seeing as this era of the internet is over.

It’s certainly sad but such is life. Things change and adapt. I used to be super resistant to discord back in 2016/2017 because I preferred the slower style of forums. However, I saw the writing on the wall — forums were dying. I had to adapt or be left behind. I did give discord a shot and over time have come to prefer it. So to those who hate it or think they’ll hate it — just give it a chance… I was once the same way.

I know people here are upset but truthfully… I remember times when this place was far more active. A small but solid group just won’t bring in enough to keep the site alive. I understand how expensive and tough it must be to keep this running. Sad to see it go… especially given this was my last forum left. Hope everyone manages to find a decent alternative. Try not to be too sour to new tech — the world will only keep changing so the best you can do is keep an open mind to new things.

Farewell furry friends! I’ll be over on the discord when it’s out. RIP FAF.
 

Phoenixflaym_Eternity

Magenta Fantasies
Extremely disappointing news. Discords are useful, but they really cannot operate the same way as forums. While you can absolutely organize channels by their topics, conversations will still often be too messy to stay coherent, especially if the discord is even remotely busy.
I absolutely agree. Discord is more of a chat website. It isn't suited to long posts and long conversations, and it can very difficult to archive and go back to old posts.

I saw some comments about a Fur Affinity Reddit, and while I don't love Reddit, I think that is a far better idea. At least you can link to old Reddit posts.

If there's one thing I dislike about Fur Affinity's forum, it's that the forum requires a different account and login than the main Fur Affinity website. It took me a while to log into this account, and I don't like this username since it's from years ago when I had a different Fur Affinity account.
 

luffy

Administrator
Moderator
Administrator
Staff Member
Im saying this for the meme, cause I was on the toilet and thought about it and now everybody needs to know my thoughts

BUT

because you're taking down faf, and putting the one dev to focus the main site, does that mean we finally get a black list and better search queries?
The dev never had any focus on the forum, so there won't be a difference.
 

luffy

Administrator
Moderator
Administrator
Staff Member
On this, you definitely are NOT deleting everything on Jan 1st? It'll just be that no one can post anything new? So more of an "archiving"? If so, are there plans to end up erasing everything later? If so, I recommended doing what Yahoo Groups, and other services, did and archiving their content on archive.org. It'll allow users to download/view the content later and relieve FA of the cost of hosting it. Why pay for something you're not actively using, yes? Plus if you do erase everything and you want to bring back the forums later you'll have a "checkpoint" already saved. Naturally this won't include things like the DMs. Just for things like the threads and such.
I looked into this and the cheapest full auto archiving cost $500. I'm not done looking, though.
 

ben909

vaporeon character != mushroom characters
if people donate to a pool for that can they get a local copy
 
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