once everything settles, it's still going to be a clique of 100-50 people who make for almost all activity and flood the chatrooms
Yeah, I don't quite understand the assumption that the userbase will soar in numbers after the transition. There's nothing stopping people from joining the forums as they are, and they do keep joining, with some recent "wave" of newcomers even. It will be funny if the Discord userbase turns out to be pretty much the same as now, minus those who get put off completely, or are technically unable to join.
I understand, I do... and I'm sorry. I know this isn't easy as there are a small, but hardcore core group who called FAF their home.
We're working to make things better for FA long term, and we know this isn't the news people expected, but we hope you'll give us a chance. Our Discord team has put a lot of time into trying to make this transition smoother and did so with the forum crew in mind.
It was a hard decision for me to make. I started these forums way back when. I was just a user. Ended up a forum mod. Became an admin. Then the head guy in charge. This is a big slice of my history in the fandom, and kind of my origin story. So... on a personal level, yeah. I feel it. I do. But I also know we're working on some cool things for the future, and we've got a really motivated and eager team with a lot of great ideas.
Thank you for saying this. I wish this had been stated earlier in this thread, we could have avoided some of the "bad blood".
Admittedly I got pretty roused last evening. It's not of any importance in the grand scheme of things, but this forum was the only "social medium" that such a recluse as myself
really wanted to use. You've got quite an achievement here, you know.
Also, the administration is your burden alone and therefore your call - but since you guys decided on an abrupt switching of the platforms, then the 2 weeks of notice is really on the short side. A month at least would be more adequate from a user's standpoint. Otherwise, the transition which could have been more "organic" becomes disruptive. The way things are, it could equally have been right after this weekend. Who knows if it wouldn't have been better, now we're suddenly getting this awkward period when it kinda doesn't "pay off" to interact in the forums any more, but we have no alternative yet...
Still, since the shots have been called and triggers pulled, it is what it is. Being more calm today, I took a look at the stuff that rolls through the "new posts" section. And well, vast majority of this actually fits instant messaging medium well enough. If not more naturally even. All the forum games, all the threads focused on what's going on right now (vents, off-topic chats, "what happened recently/today", this kind of things), probably the art advertisement & interaction as well. But there remains the minority of topics that are more in-depth, slow and long-running, and incidentally this is the kind I was most likely to take part in. I wonder if we're not losing this.
Now: while personally I might seem to "ruffle my mane" more than necessary, this is just unfortunate way I roll (also a huge reason why I play striped hyena here). But at the end of the day, I give people and things the benefit of doubt. I admit I'm getting curious what you guys have brewed up over there. I even have a loosely comparable example from my own corner of 3D graphics. Blender, the program I use, have been through several huge overhauls through its history. And every time the users cry out loud, pissed off by this or that change. It got especially bad when the program was re-coded from scratch and all manners of teething problems erupted afterwards, which took about a year to stabilize. Yet in the long run, this has enabled things nobody was earlier dreaming about.
But here the concern remains and will remain unless invalidated by experience, will such slow thinker as myself be able to adapt to this "brave new world"?...
Because not gonna lie, it might just end up something like this: