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Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
And we vote them there because we must pick between the lesser of two evils

fuck the two-party system

There's no sub-parties in primaries. If people on the left got involved and started booting out conservative Dems in the primaries the way the Tea Party got involved in their primaries and started driving them off the crazy cliff then maybe we could make some progress for a change.
 

CinoxFellpyre

Banned
Banned
There's no sub-parties in primaries. If people on the left got involved and started booting out conservative Dems in the primaries the way the Tea Party got involved in their primaries and started driving them off the crazy cliff then maybe we could make some progress for a change.
Conservative democrats. That's not registering in my head.
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
And we vote them there because we must pick between the lesser of two evils

fuck the two-party system

I agree- I consider myself independent. There never is anyone from the independent party that ever wins. I find this sad.

PBS is a great news source. Far better than any US-based private broadcasting company so losing it would be incredibly bad. I don't see a need for most of our military budget.... I'd think that could take a few cuts first considering PBS is an infinitesimally small part of the budget and would have zero effect on our federal outlays.

Well I (mostly) agree with you that the budget (665 billion which is more than any other country) is a bit much, the people that run the government are what need the cut backs.

15,000 dollar toilet seats and 10,000 dollar staplers. The whole system is a mess. When they start cutting back the budget my husband and the rest of the people in the military will have their benefits slashed and pay slashed. We are fortunate to live on what we have. We live well below the poverty line. Cuts need to be made all over not just in the military budget.
 

Spatel

Well-Known Member
Conservative democrats. That's not registering in my head.
Ben Nelson? Joseph Liebermann? Most southern democrats in the Senate? It should register. It's a pretty common phenomenon.

I would say that most of the party officeholders fall to the right of their voting constituencies on social issues, and especially economic issues. Progressives were PISSED when Obama compromised to allow Bush's tax cuts to continue.
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
Conservative democrats. That's not registering in my head.

The Dems don't have the ideological lock-step of the Reps. Really, the Democratic party is more like a coalition of moderates and moderate conservatives with moderate liberal leadership. Conservative Dems like Max Baucus and Ben Nelson did more damage to the health care bill than Republicans ever did, because they stripped away support from within the party. See also the Blue Dog Coalition.
 

HyBroMcYenapants

STEVE HARVEY = HOMOSEXUAL
PBS is broken


CUT IT

Big Bird is gonna kill some bitches.
 

CinoxFellpyre

Banned
Banned
Ben Nelson? Joseph Liebermann? Most southern democrats in the Senate? It should register. It's a pretty common phenomenon.

I would say that most of the party officeholders fall to the right of their voting constituencies on social issues, and especially economic issues. Progressives were PISSED when Obama compromised to allow Bush's tax cuts to continue.
Obama was really in a bind because of the southern people having a shit fit.
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
15,000 dollar toilet seats and 10,000 dollar staplers. The whole system is a mess. When they start cutting back the budget my husband and the rest of the people in the military will have their benefits slashed and pay slashed. We are fortunate to live on what we have. We live well below the poverty line. Cuts need to be made all over not just in the military budget.

But it is military spending that's out of control. Wages are low because the point of military spending is not to benefit soldiers, but to transfer vast sums of money to the military industrial complex for shit like laser planes. That's what needs to be cut, but Reps pretend military spending is all soldier benefits and body armor and you damn well better not touch it if you don't hate the troops and America too.
 

Xegras

Peerat
But it is military spending that's out of control. Wages are low because the point of military spending is not to benefit soldiers, but to transfer vast sums of money to the military industrial complex for shit like laser planes. That's what needs to be cut, but Reps pretend military spending is all soldier benefits and body armor and you damn well better not touch it if you don't hate the troops and America too.

Would you rage at all if i told you most everybody down here doesnt wear there armor? D:
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
But it is military spending that's out of control. Wages are low because the point of military spending is not to benefit soldiers, but to transfer vast sums of money to the military industrial complex for shit like laser planes. That's what needs to be cut, but Reps pretend military spending is all soldier benefits and body armor and you damn well better not touch it if you don't hate the troops and America too.

Body armor my ass- my husband ended up having to buy his own "battle rattle" because they "slashed" the funding to give him what he needs. There needs to be contracting laws that are put in place that make the government choose the contractor with the LOWEST offer.

EDIT: He is not even deployed nor will be for some time but they made him buy it stating it was required. Well if it was required then it should be SIE (standard issue equipment) not making him pay the person they buy the shit from.
 

Xegras

Peerat
Body armor my ass- my husband ended up having to buy his own "battle rattle" because they "slashed" the funding to give him what he needs. There needs to be contracting laws that are put in place that make the government choose the contractor with the LOWEST offer.

Wait if your in the middle of america why does your husband need battle rattle?
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
Body armor my ass- my husband ended up having to buy his own "battle rattle" because they "slashed" the funding to give him what he needs. There needs to be contracting laws that are put in place that make the government choose the contractor with the LOWEST offer.

Give our soldiers cheap, flimsy, probably-Chinese-made armor? Those are OUR BOYS. :V

edit: I need to stop posting and go eat lunch already
 

Spatel

Well-Known Member
Obama was really in a bind because of the southern people having a shit fit.

Obama was not in a bind. He had absolutely no political capital to lose by letting the tax cuts expire. It was not a compromise on his part... he genuinely ascribes to a center-right economic belief system.

And as for military spending...
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great use of money right there. I'm sure our hypothetical enemies are trembling in their boots.
 
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dinosaurdammit

White Devil
Wait if your in the middle of america why does your husband need battle rattle?

I don't even know. Guess they expect him to need it while he works in the shop on an engine. DEAR LORD FOD IS GOING TO ATTACK AT ANY MOMENT! QUICK BATTLE RATTLE UP! You guys uniforms are also in need of change. Really it is too damn hot and for what they are you pay too much for them.
 

HyBroMcYenapants

STEVE HARVEY = HOMOSEXUAL
I don't even know. Guess they expect him to need it while he works in the shop on an engine. DEAR LORD FOD IS GOING TO ATTACK AT ANY MOMENT! QUICK BATTLE RATTLE UP! You guys uniforms are also in need of change. Really it is too damn hot and for what they are you pay too much for them.

BUT

BROWN PEOPLE AND ISLAM
 

Xegras

Peerat
I don't even know. Guess they expect him to need it while he works in the shop on an engine. DEAR LORD FOD IS GOING TO ATTACK AT ANY MOMENT! QUICK BATTLE RATTLE UP! You guys uniforms are also in need of change. Really it is too damn hot and for what they are you pay too much for them.

There supposedly coming out with a summer edition of the ABU, though as soon as DADT is repealed im sure it will just be hot pants. If they cant give him armor he should have just gotten a waiver, i doubt they made him by battle rattle especially since the stuff in the states is the shitty BDU stuff they use for excercises.
 

CinoxFellpyre

Banned
Banned
o.=.o I was talking about PBS losing funds and it went to a FUCK AMERICA thread, never posting anything politics again @.=.@
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
o.=.o I was talking about PBS losing funds and it went to a FUCK AMERICA thread, never posting anything politics again @.=.@

DO you remember my first post in the thread? No? Go back read it and learn. I DID WARN YOU IT WOULD TURN INTO A SHIT FEST!
 

Xegras

Peerat
o.=.o I was talking about PBS losing funds and it went to a FUCK AMERICA thread, never posting anything politics again @.=.@

This is normal, almost all FAF threads become FUCK AMERICA at one point or another.
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
This is normal, almost all FAF threads become FUCK AMERICA at one point or another.

I find it sad really. Most of them don't even know why we have problems they just want them fixed without any regard as to how hard it is to do that.

Granted a lot of shit sucks but we do have it better than some countries. For those of them that are old enough, if they don't like it here why stay here? Why not immigrate to another country. I admit there are a lot of things that need changing in our government but no one realizes the time and legalities of it all to change something simple.

I pray for the day things that need to be done get done but for the mean time I will support my government though I may disagree with it at times and generally just be satisfied with it all. If they want to slash PBS then fine because no one really uses it like they used to and that extra funding can be put elsewhere where it is more likely to make a dent in affecting something- schools, after hours education for needy kids, food programs ect.
 
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