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Fur Affinity/Furocity Joining Forces

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Ringo

Prettiest Cop On The Block
I love the "additional coding expertise" in the OP. "Additional" implies there was any to begin with.
 
On another note Furocity I just looked up to see what it is and its extreamly small almost remindes me of furnation the way they have the gallery set up.. This can be a good or bad thing this so called "merge" But knowingly I say it will be a bad thing for Furocity and a good thing for Furaffinity.

How? Simple we all know what happend to Universal Productions when the Merged with Activision to become Activision Blizzard. Activision merging with Vivendi Universal killed Universal and put off more than 350 workers and employees shuting down all the sub groups claiming they wanted to move in a new direction.. And look at all the rubbish they came out with ...

So it is good that FA is merging for it probally knows that with the competion of the new springing sites they need to "go in a new direction" to keep afloat.. Though will probally like activision kill off Furocity with the merge.. So expect some dramatic changes.. (other than all the rubbish fa has already done)

And that is my two cents.
 

Williamca

Member
That is VCL the black line, IB is in blue,FA is red, e621 is green, SF is yellow look at the legend (key)
You don't seem to understand what I am saying. Furocity has no ranking with Alexa, so it is the black border line on the bottom. Even VCL has more of a ranking than Furocity. I hope you can understand this now. :)
Furocity rank almost 3 million
VCL rank about 300k
 

Volkodav

Dad****er
Who the fuck cares where Furocity is on some sorta jumbled nonsense map
Dragoneer is bringing over ADMINS
PEOPLE TO ENFORCE RULES.
ADMINS FROM FUROCITY TO COME ONTO FA AND BECOME ADMINS HERE AS WELL AND ENFORCE RULES
Is it clear enough? I mean cmon dudes, cmon. Read it.
 

Devious Bane

No faith for this site
Banned
Who the fuck cares where Furocity is on some sorta jumbled nonsense map
Dragoneer is bringing over ADMINS
PEOPLE TO ENFORCE RULES.
ADMINS FROM FUROCITY TO COME ONTO FA AND BECOME ADMINS HERE AS WELL AND ENFORCE RULES
Is it clear enough? I mean cmon dudes, cmon. Read it.
It's as clear as the fact he's too lazy to find any decent ones and fire the ones he already has.
 

keeshah

Member
No it will not. Remember that FA and Furocity are not combining into one site. Fa is staying Fa, and Furocity is staying Furocity. There is now way we'd ever ban human related art here on FA. That's silliness.

The worry is getting new mods an admins from Furocity, who thinks drawing animal cock = Bestiality.
That we don't need on FA.
 

Stealthy

Quod me nutruit, me destruit.
This, I'm sure, would be awesome if I had any idea what Furocity actually was (past it being a furry art site).
 
Okay, after reading more of this thread, I have to say the announcement is confusing and poorly written.

A simple resource merger is a big deal to the admins running the site, but to the userbase, it will be pretty much invisible. So this isn't "one of the biggest [announcements] in FA history", and because the announcement post was so ambiguous, you're upsetting a lot of people because they don't understand what's going on. And your selective answering of comments is only adding to people's alarm.
I think the point needs to be stressed in the original posting that you're merely sharing admins and the site has a new co-owner.

No shit growly...Love ya at AC :D
 

Kelpie

소주
Don't feel like reading through everything and while I left before I just wanna say...

If ALL that is -actually- happening, is that we're getting some of their admins to help over here since apparently Dragoneer can't get some better ones or make the ones he has do their jobs... why is this being called a MERGE.

It's just confusing people and pissing people off because it doesn't look like that many people want what the definition of a merge is. I'm all for more admins as long as they actually DO their jobs and don't just abuse their power or slack off all the time.

But maybe that's what this should be called. Even if it's "FA is getting mods from a pretty obscure furry website that it seems like most of you don't care for" instead.
 

Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
Re: Fur Affinity/Furocity Merger Announcement

1) Trust me, people would leave if something like this would happen.

2) FA isn't a business and neer relies on donations, without users there's no donations, without donations there's no FA

3) I know it's not merging, i'm just saying if it "were" merging, and no, again, this would be a very bad choice for FA, not a "good step forward".

nr1. There were huge security leaks which caused A LOT of data being stolen including tons of personal messages (a few of mine included) which has left me not doing anything but posting comments anymore (and I don't touch the ads)

nr2. It is always good to atleast make a poll and get to HEAR the customers opinion. Doing that does TWO things: It shows the admin does care about it's customers. And getting feedback is ALWAYS a positive thing. (Kitchen nightmares enough said lol)
Another perfect example is when a business is struggling like a store and other it is always good to ask the LOWEST staff (aka the staff at the bottom) WHAT could go better and what could be fixed. (there is one guy who does this and gets millions of dollars for just talking to the staff and fixing what they think is the problem because they are usually right) Not saying that the users are right however but they do need to get a sense of security that nothing is gona fuck it all up.

nr3. staff merging is still something that worries me. That and a new design. if it will be a new design that I do not like then I will stop using FA. It is like an MMORPG. If they change the look and feel of the system (star wars galaxies is a perfect example) and I or other people don't like it then they stop using it.
The staff worries are: Security issues and knowing that there will be another person whom I have no idea who is and never heard of will have the same power as Dragoneer.
Along with a lot of staff I have NO idea who are which could in the future screw FA over or the other way around.
This does worrie me quite a bit. As we do NOT want more security breaches or leaked out information.
 

Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
Re: Fur Affinity/Furocity Merger Announcement

Gotta love being ganged up on for opinions..
Never said I demanded I be listened to (though that would be great, being a user, but one among thousands)

It's my, again, opinion, that I don't like the site. Great thing is, like you said, I don't have to listen :D

It's just another way to say "gangbang" And they do it because they love you ;)

Making a poll does two things: It tells the consumer that the Admins DO care about they're opinion and it does give the consumer a bit of peace knowing that the admins are listening even though they might not agree with the consumer.
But it is still something that is highly reccomended when it comes to big decisions.
Listening to the customer's worries is just considered good business.
Just like Gordon Ramsay knows =P
(as in kitchen nightmares tv show)
 

Traediras

That maltese tiger
I think the fact that Furocity was built from the ground up (#) really speaks for itself. Yes, there may be quite a few people who know how to code, but in the end it's the experience that truly matters. Neer is vesting his trust into the Furocity programming team to help with the reconstruction of FA (whether some parties agree with this or not is probably going to be redundant in due course).

Besides, if the Furocity mods (those who do come over to FA) step out of line, they'll be gone bloody quick.
 

Syntex

dat kitty demon
None of this makes any sense. No, really, there is no real reason for this to be happening. I just don't get it.

FA is indeed, an insanely huge site, and they realized they need to get their act together so their seeking help, what's there not to get?
 

insane_kangaroo

Banned
Banned
None of this makes any sense. No, really, there is no real reason for this to be happening. I just don't get it.

Well, nothing is happening with FA, not even coding. The site is still vulnerable to attack, nobody on FA's team are programmers. You can't count a person as a programmer when they make no changes. The coop will bring in programming skills.

I'm happy there will be programmers who have done something like FA before unlike the wannabe programmers who hang out in #hackerfurs. They couldn't code their way out of a CSV file even if they wanted.
 

imnohbody

Member
Who do I sue to get back the hour or so I've wasted in this thread? :p

No, really. There was like a handful of actually important questions, while like 3/4ths (guesstimate) of the people posting (not individual posts, individual posters) keep asking the same questions that had gotten answers multiple times, posting content-free "do not want" crap without actually explaining anything, or were using the thread for yet another venue for airing long-standing grudges against the FA staff in general and Dragoneer in particular that were irrelevant to the thread topic.

As to the thread subject itself, considering I'd not even heard of Furocity before now and haven't had any direct need of mods or admins (vice indirect stuff like maintaining the site), I can't really offer anything constructive about the issue.
 

wolfbeast

Member
Re: Fur Affinity/Furocity Merger Announcement

That's funny because they got no programming expertise, they got all their stuff coded by a company, none of what they have is coded by their staff.
That's news to me because I worked with Gavin over there to pinpoint an apparently long-standing thumbnail layout issue, which WAS fixed by the staff after finding the source of it. So there's definitely plenty of expertise there as far as web layout and coding goes :)
 

kgraleopard!

New Member
In regards to the furor over the mods and what asshats they might be, let me just say, as a Furocity user, that I've had nothing but polite and prompt contact from the Furocity mods. They were efficient and answered my questions quickly (same day or within 24 hours!). I've heard all kinds of horrible things about the mods here on FA, about issues with favoritism and problems not being even acknowledged for weeks or months or sometimes ever, and, based on my personal experience, the Furocity mods will fix those customer service issues. I have also met most all of them in person at various events and they're very nice in real life too, which can only add to my comfort knowing they're getting stuff done properly. And I'm sure, once everything's in place, that the mods will introduce themselves to everyone and will be happy to answer any questions or concerns you may have about the changes or submissions or whatever!

One Furocity feature that I love is the submission reporting button. Just click on it, fill out a simple form about why you want this image/writing brought to the mods' attention, and voila! I would love to see that brought over to FA.

I'm very excited about this change. It's been a long time coming. Especially with so much unnecessary drama so easily flamed into a roaring inferno. It's okay, everyone. Nothing is screwed.

*hugs*
 

insane_kangaroo

Banned
Banned
I've heard all kinds of horrible things about the mods here on FA, about issues with favoritism and problems not being even acknowledged for weeks or months or sometimes ever, and, based on my personal experience, the Furocity mods will fix those customer service issues.

Dragoneer needs to set guidelines for the support admins. There is a support admin on the FA side which suspended a user for 6 hours for making a Jew joke with the comment of "I'm jewish"(summarized). Such action is unacceptable when the comment didn't involve the admin nor was the joke directly anti-Semitic. Such admins need to be corrected or leave FA staff, this is not 1943 Germany.
 

Tiger In A Tie

Say what now?
Don't feel like reading through everything and while I left before I just wanna say...

If ALL that is -actually- happening, is that we're getting some of their admins to help over here since apparently Dragoneer can't get some better ones or make the ones he has do their jobs... why is this being called a MERGE.

It's just confusing people and pissing people off because it doesn't look like that many people want what the definition of a merge is. I'm all for more admins as long as they actually DO their jobs and don't just abuse their power or slack off all the time.

But maybe that's what this should be called. Even if it's "FA is getting mods from a pretty obscure furry website that it seems like most of you don't care for" instead.

It's not being called a merge anymore. It's been changed to "joining forces". You can see that in the thread title, the OP, the FA top banner notice, and Fender's most recent update in the news section of the fA home page.
 

timoran

Banned
Banned
Re: Fur Affinity/Furocity Merger Announcement

I can tell you here that we do care. If we have a user who becomes guilty of art theft it is in the rules they get banned for 30 days after it is proven. Then if they commit it again it's a perm suspension. The thing is you have to prove it first, and often times when users start harrassing a person and they take it down before an admin get a chance to look it over it becomes problematic.

Admins should be able to see deleted evidence. Deleting a submission should not delete the file.
 
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