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Furaffinity-Paypal Issues

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Summercat

Former Motterator
Heyas folks -

Well, it seems a few hours ago, a rumor exploded around that Paypal is banning people associated with Furaffinity, or who mention Furaffinity in Paypal messages.

In what I hope to be big bold red letters, [size=+3]THIS IS NOT THE CASE.[/size]

While a more detailed explanation can be found in [fa]aiyoko[/fa]'s journal ( http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2933214 ), I'm going to list out some things here.

Paypal has, as long as I've known them, not allowed their services to be used for porn or adult material. According to the reply in Aiyoko's journal, drawn/painted artwork is okay, but that's really news to me personally, and I don't know how far I'd trust it.

The long and the short of it is that Paypal is not banning all users who also use Furaffinity, nor are they banning transactions because they mention Furaffinity.

So, what's going on? Apparently, people are discussing getting porn in terms that sound like bestiality (which is explicitly not allowed), or other similar things. "Can I get a picture of a tiger doing my character up the ass" is going to look very suspicious, and Paypal has a "ban everything" knee-jerk reaction.

[fa]Redbeanviolin[/fa] has an excellent tutorial regarding how to use Paypal's invoice feature, ( http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6903907/ ), and some people may find this helpful.

I will also reiterate (and this point I must say I'm a bit biased) that you don't want to have your eggs in all one basket, simply because of this. I strongly encourage people to look for alternative payment processors, such as Alertpay or Moneybroker. The former is a service similar to Paypal, and the later also has those options (and is primarily used by online stores for e-commerce, such as GamersGate.com). Also, Google Checkout allows you to edit and create items on the fly. I strongly encourage people explore these alternatives (and any others that may come up) to use in addition to Paypal.

THat's about it, folks. There's no whirlwind of drama of bannings because of FA.

TL;DR:

Paypal isn't banning people because they use FA.
 
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Draconas

Active Member
Well spoken, getting a tad annoying too see journals being spammed with assumptions and shit, i just had my what, 90'th journal pop up? kinda rage inducing too people who really don't care.
 
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Verin Asper

The Smart Idiot
of course, they banning folks who recieve money from folks with no common sense :V
 

teckworks

New Member
Motherfucin' A. I'll never understand why people go straight to chaos theory and just flip the fuck out without looking into policies or asking people questions first...
 

Takun

Wof Wof Wof Wof Wof
>2011
>commissioning porn via paypal

Really furries?
 

Daniel Kay

Scalie love
That post even managed to calm another "fear" that didn't even have something to do with the original topic as I didn't know drawn material does not fall under the "no pornography" rule... now I'd just have to sort out the legal trouble with my commission work and I could do them again.

PS: Didn't even know that rumor was going around till I read that :p
 
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TechKat

Banned
Banned
With rape, bestiality, incest and children being the reason why Paypal are sniffing our asses, we may be expecting a huge cut down on bestiality and such on FA soon.
 

Scapponess

New Member
Unfortunately, Alertpay seems to be having troubles with people depositing and withdrawing cash to and from their accounts using wire transfers, so it seems they won't be an option for very long...

I just wanted to point out that there's another service that's being launched by Visa in 2012 that's supposed to compete with Paypal called V.me . Hopefully the credit card company will be able to put up some stiff competition for the long-unseated despot that is Paypal.

Also, there's a service called Dwolla that feels and acts a lot like Paypal without a lot of the hassle. In fact, they're a lot quicker to push to bank accounts than Paypal is (usually Paypal takes about 3-4 business days, Dwolla takes 24 hours, if that). I've personally been using it for some transactions and it's worked out beautifully. I'd suggest any American who wants an alternate payment method go and check them out. Unfortunately, they're only functional in the US at this point, so there's that limitation.

I had never thought of using Google Checkout or Moneybroker before, so thanks for the suggestions OP :3!
 
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Lillium

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There's also Serve, which is backed by American Express. o 3o No fees for P2P transfers/payments, unless you use your credit/debit card (starting Jan. 2012, anyways), and includes a prepaid debit card you can use at stores.
 

Summercat

Former Motterator
*plans to give BitCoin a try*

The problem with bitcoin (and why I didn't mention it in the original post) is, ultimately, I can't pay my taxes with it.

No, seriously. It's not a real currency, and the security measures in it are not exactly user-friendly. I can't pay my bills with it, so I wouldn't accept it as payment. While I like the idea of a credit system built for the internet age, the way Bitcoin goes about it... No. I'm sorry, but only through the general acceptance of a marketplace working together would it work out.

With rape, bestiality, incest and children being the reason why Paypal are sniffing our asses, we may be expecting a huge cut down on bestiality and such on FA soon.

Erm. Whut? That.... er, what? That doesn't make any sense. This isn't FA-the-site, but FA-the-community.
 
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Playful_Umbreon

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i just send money and leave weverything blank and contact the seller of the art goods on the site they seek services from ie www.wildcritters.ws furraffinity bad dragon so furry just contact through there ive done lots just sending money to the emails provided AngelPaw is the one i pay mostly.

Paypal safest way to transfer/buy services and or products just dont say what your buying sheesh.

Double clicked cant delete it sorry.
 
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CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
i just send money and leave weverything blank and contact the seller of the art goods on the site they seek services from ie www.wildcritters.ws furraffinity bad dragon so furry just contact through there ive done lots just sending money to the emails provided AngelPaw is the one i pay mostly.

yeah, exactly. the note section in paypal is completely optional, just leave it blank. when you are commissioning an artist he or she should have your paypal name, so identifying your payment shouldnt be an issue.
just put a little common sense into it and there shouldnt be a problem.

and in another (now closed) thread someone posted a screenshot in which the paypal folks said that they dont ban you because you are involved with FA, they only ban you when they see that you commission invloves beastiality, children or other very obscene stuff. but really, who in his right mind would ever want to put that into the payment note? if you are that dumb you deserve to get your paypal account blocked^^
 
Wow, I almost wish the rumors about paypal blacklisting FA were true, because thinking about how furries managed to get themselves on Paypal's alert radar in the first place just makes me sad... :I
 
They did cite "www.furaffinity.net" among the reasons for the person's ban as well as two transactions that contained only a comment about FA. I do find the fact that they cited those items to be significant even if they are not the sole causes.
 

Xandrah

The Dragon Queen
Some people really do over react I had like 100 Journals crying about this, thank you for clearing it up in this thread, common sense really though. Of course pay pal is going to ban if you start to explain what that picture is.
 
The problem with bitcoin (and why I didn't mention it in the original post) is, ultimately, I can't pay my taxes with it.

No, seriously. It's not a real currency, and the security measures in it are not exactly user-friendly. I can't pay my bills with it, so I wouldn't accept it as payment. While I like the idea of a credit system built for the internet age, the way Bitcoin goes about it... No. I'm sorry, but only through the general acceptance of a marketplace working together would it work out.

You just trade BitCoin for USD, it's not a bad system really, but you do have to have market savvy.
 
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