"Furaffinity will not be up tonight (that is, Monday)" discussion
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Kaeko
peace keeping minx
I don't understand comparing deadlines to reallife, if it means nothing at all for FA and the admins. I'm sure they feel just as frustrated as everyone else and they apologized for not having it up when they said.
They could just throw it to the side and do more important things in there lives? I mean, that's what alot of people here need to do.
ryokukitsune
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well I'm just glad they didn't rush this forward just for the sake of getting it up. from Dragoneers other post with Bahamut packing it in it sounds like things would have spiraled madly out of control. I for one and Damn thankfuly for everything those boys are doing they rock! we can at least say that in this "time of need" that they have at least kept the community service consistant, where the sight might not be up at all, if they had rushed it chances are it would be down again by now AND on top of that there probibly would have been some data loss when it happened.
Thank goodness for yak and the rest of the ninjas! get some rest you guys need it!
Rock on!
Thank goodness for yak and the rest of the ninjas! get some rest you guys need it!
Rock on!
The Muffin Man
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*Facepalm*
People donated money.
"Throwing it to the side and doing more important things" is no longer an option.
I guess people just need to realise that Furaffinity has decided to run on Valve Time. A lot of things do that.
All I can say is, if the search function does get reintroduced (I'm always hoping, because Furaffinity has never covered certain categories such as WAM/Quicksand, and there are probably many hidden gems out there that I haven't been able to find), then this downtime will have been well worth the wait. :3
All I can say is, if the search function does get reintroduced (I'm always hoping, because Furaffinity has never covered certain categories such as WAM/Quicksand, and there are probably many hidden gems out there that I haven't been able to find), then this downtime will have been well worth the wait. :3
Rufferstuff
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Arbiter
Totally Gay For Bridget!!
Did somebody say Search?
*twitch*
*twitch*
*twitch*
that's why i said its a lie
. oh and when FA does come back Dragoneer, be prepared for a lot of "were's the search engine"?"
Kaeko
peace keeping minx
Eh, I didnt donate, that thought wasn't registered for me. I just helped at FA:U the best I could to make up for the money I didn't have at the time.
And it never once was an option. Fixing the site and improving it, however, was.
We're prepared. We've got 25mm turrets set up on the east and west wings of the site, ready to take out question takers... err, take their questions.that's why i said its a lie
And you did a damn good job helping us, too!
Search engines demand HUGE MySQL overhead... which equates to CPU time... and this slows things down if searches are being run 10 times or more a minute over such a HUGE database. Imagine searching a library... every book, for an occurrence of a word... and you don't know if that word is in a given book without looking at every word on every page. Even for a computer it's a daunting task.
Ok, now that my account is finally up (seriously, signed up when it was page 10, and in the time it took to get the activation email you people piled up 5 PAGES of stuff... amazing), I can finally react to this pile of crap.
To those who say "16,000 is a lot, go hire someone!", consider this: Being a trained consultant isn't a minimum wage job, at least not if you want someone who actually knows their stuff. They are EXPENSIVE... the total for a good consultant could easily EXCEED $16,000. Combine that with server costs, and the admins could very well not have the funds to afford a consultant or professional firm. Not to mention both of the above would likely take LONGER to get it done, since they have to go back and analyze the way the website and it's underlying database are put together (not something done easily mind you!)
To those who are saying "Deadlines are deadlines, don't make them until you know you can keep them"... lemme guess, you've NEVER missed a deadline, or thought "Hmm, I can get this done in X" and taken longer than X to get it done. A deadline is simply a more educated estimate, they are still prone to sudden extensions or being missed due to unexpected circumstances.
To those who say "I have a right to bitch, this site is a major source of my income"... well to be honest, you did something very stupid in betting a major source of your income on FA. This site has no obligation to you or anyone else to be up 24/7/365. In fact, if I were to be doing any sort of commission work, I'd avoid a free site like the PLAGUE, simply because if it goes down and I don't make money, then there's NO chance of compensation. Make an account here and advertise, but have your own hosting for that sort of thing. If you can't afford it... well then you aren't making much on commissions, are you?
To all of the above, and everyone else griping here... yes, you have a right to gripe. But take an honest self-reflection and ask yourself this: Do you have ANY CLUE what it takes to make this work? I will only claim to have the most basic understanding of this stuff, and couldn't hope to make a site like this work in my wildest dreams. I know just enough to get a faint grasp as to how complex this probably is, and I am very grateful that I don't have to understand more to use FA in my spare time. However, there are some very talented people in the furry world, and I'm sure that in the month that FA has been down, some could have picked up a book, learned something about the problems, and offered to help and pick up some slack from the moderators here.
Griping may make you feel better, but it makes the poor people who are actually making things BETTER feel like crap, and they don't deserve that. Instead, try picking up a book online or looking at some tutorials (W3schools.com is a good start for anything computer-related) and try to get a grasp of what they may be doing, then be thankful that THEY are the ones working and not you.
Suntiger
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Given how deadlines usually work (in general, ergo both online and IRL) they are a set thing only in a platonic ideal.
Practically, a deadline is an estimate, or so all my experience have turned out.
About hiring a tech to work on the problem; here is what's left after the servers and harddrives were bought:
Total Left from Donation Drive Since 01JUL08: $1,963.22
(Thread: http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=23826 )
I'm not sure how much "tech-time" you could get for that. Does anyone here have experience with what rates a tech charges?
Also, isn't it made more complicated with the tech first having to be familiarized with the hardware and software so he or she knows what he has to work with?
Another note for those that use FA (or similar sites) in a commercial manner; backups.
All contact data with customers should be backuped on an offline text file in case the internet access is lost, and on a physical hardcopy in case the computer gets fried.
(This is useful for your friends list too btw, and the number list on the cell phone.)
There's a reason most companies keeps a physical customer archive after all.
Practically, a deadline is an estimate, or so all my experience have turned out.
About hiring a tech to work on the problem; here is what's left after the servers and harddrives were bought:
Total Left from Donation Drive Since 01JUL08: $1,963.22
(Thread: http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=23826 )
I'm not sure how much "tech-time" you could get for that. Does anyone here have experience with what rates a tech charges?
Also, isn't it made more complicated with the tech first having to be familiarized with the hardware and software so he or she knows what he has to work with?
Another note for those that use FA (or similar sites) in a commercial manner; backups.
All contact data with customers should be backuped on an offline text file in case the internet access is lost, and on a physical hardcopy in case the computer gets fried.
(This is useful for your friends list too btw, and the number list on the cell phone.)
There's a reason most companies keeps a physical customer archive after all.
Arbiter
Totally Gay For Bridget!!
Delphinidae
Competitively intelligent.
Ironically, often the people who call others lifeless are the ones in real need of one.
bunnies_are_emo
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Hmm..it does suck for artists that make a living off of commissions from FA, and i for one DO get commissions from FA, but shouldn't one think about advertising on other websites? If one makes a "living" from it, then they should really think about having backup plans. And also here is an idea (not saying it in a sarcastic way, I'm trying to be nice about this ^^; since EVERYONE is checking the forums, you could always advertise yourself on the forums if you aren't already. Just an idea ^^
since EVERYONE is checking the forums, you could always advertise yourself on the forums if you aren't already. Just an idea ^^
Mystraven
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Meh, a disappointment but nothing to throw a hissy over. I waited a month to see this site back on, I can wait a little longer. Besides after the kick ass time I had at FAU and the fact Bossdragon himself gave me a pat on the back after the Gayblades called me on stage I'd have to be a real rat bastard to knock them now
The Muffin Man
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I meant the admins can no longer do more important things, but true the donaters can't really "relax" because their money has yet to be shown as being used.
Kaeko
peace keeping minx
^w^ I'm glad I could be of assistance :3
Arbiter
Totally Gay For Bridget!!
but then again, the mods will just joke it off if you ask them something like that. much like the sear- OH NO, I JUST SAID THE S WORD!!!!
(Note trying to offend dragoneer or any of the mods here, im just stating my opinion on the matter, i still like you guys
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