"Furaffinity will not be up tonight (that is, Monday)" discussion

[The Muffin Man]

Given how deadlines usually work (in general, ergo both online and IRL) they are a set thing only in a platonic ideal.
Practically, a deadline is an estimate, or so all my experience have turned out.

About hiring a tech to work on the problem; here is what's left after the servers and harddrives were bought:
Total Left from Donation Drive Since 01JUL08: $1,963.22
(Thread: http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=23826 )

I'm not sure how much "tech-time" you could get for that. Does anyone here have experience with what rates a tech charges?
Also, isn't it made more complicated with the tech first having to be familiarized with the hardware and software so he or she knows what he has to work with?

"Dude you work on servers at your job, right? I'll give you $300 to take the day off work and finish up what I've been working on for a month for me. Shouldn't take too long but I've been up for damn-near 2 days straight."

 

[Dessy]

Praying...or is it preying?

You're talking to a voraphile... ;]

 

[Rilest]

Ohhh now we are having dejevu's

 

[Dessy]

Ohhh now we are having dejevu's

Didn't you say that earlier?

 

[Daniel Kay]

Ok may as add my $0.02 to it, ahem...

STOP WITH THE "They only bitch because they want the porn back" COMMENTS, GAHHHH I HATE THOSE JUST AS MUCH AS CONSTANT COMPLAINERS...

... ok so much for me

 

[icehawk]

Next time don't make deadlines.. make estimates. Deadlines are final and people get pissed at you when you can't make them and yes if you don't make deadlines in the real world.. guess what..

you get FIRED.

You must be new to software development. We just shipped a product at work that was originally due in October '07.

A few weeks is nothing.

 

[Akkeresu]

I'll just add my two cents here.

STOP WHINING!

Thank you, and thank you FA staff. You provide an amazing site for free, and run off donations, and we appreciate everything you people have done. Keep up the excellent work, use this time to rest, and come back onto the internet, guns blazing.

~Akkeresu

 

[PKBitchGirl]

This is absurd. The whole thing is absurd.

I don't get it. What's to gain by setting a deadline when you know you're not going to make it? You just piss people off and make them feel like they were stupid for believing in you.

Apparently, it doesn't pay to trust you, Dragoneer and Co.

So, what's the new deadline? A week? A month? A couple months? A freakin' year? What's it gonna take to get the damn website online again?

Over in the requests forum you're pissing and moaning about an artist not uploading the art he/she's drawing for free by the deadline he/she imposed on him/herself.

Here you are moaning about another deadline not being met

The guy writing the code needs to get some sleep, simple as. Show some respect lest the ban hammer lands on your head

 

[Art]

One shouldn't complain from free services. That's just way too wrong.

 

[therealist]

Won't be up tonight?

How about... won't be up Tuesday, or Wednesday, or the rest of this week, or possibly even the rest of this month?

Let's be realistic people. Code-altering takes time, especially when you're trying to do bug-fixing in JavaScript or any coding language like it. I'm talking from experience here. It's not easy, and it's VERY time-consuming. I say FA will be back up by the end of this week (August 10th) at the very EARLIEST, with a more accurate statement most likely being that FA won't be back up until the end of August.

In the meantime, I'm not holding my breath about anything. My words to the admins are this: "Send me a note when you finish, because I'm not going to wait for the 'water' to 'boil.' Just surprise me.

 

[PKBitchGirl]

I think it's amusing how so many (usually the same) people are baww'ing at this like it's some horrible travesty. Use the time to do something else. Draw something, go outside, or at least have some life beyond the FA Error page.

Yeah, seriously, I finished a Storm Hawks fic I was writing.

I'm sure the moaners can find something to fap to over at Fchan, I'm pretty sure there's plenty pics of Master Tigress with her boobs hanging out

 

[Phsuke]

Yeah, seriously, I finished a Storm Hawks fic I was writing.

I'm sure the moaners can find something to fap to over at Fchan, I'm pretty sure there's plenty pics of Master Tigress with her boobs hanging out

You forgot Poland and FAP (Furry Art Pile).

 

[The Muffin Man]

One shouldn't complain from free services. That's just way too wrong.

I swear to god, I am going to take over the world, round up ALL the people who have ever said:
"It's free, you can't complain"
"Irregardless"
"Case and point"
"Should of"
"You can't complain unless you can do better"
"Literally" (when they do not mean "it actually was")
And I am going to round you up.
And I am going to have you shot.

*Writes up plans for world domination*

 

[Mel-the-Hybrid]

The only reason why I'm annoyed about FA not being up when the date has been set by a mod is that I have a load of commissions to finish, and I can't get back to the reference details that was given to me by my customers. It forces me to wait, it forces them to wait, kinda not good for all of us. NOT angry, just somewhat miffed.

But that doesn't mean that I don't understand that the admins running FA don't have lives themselves. We all do. . .unless you're some kind of weirdo that spends 24/7 on the comp that stares at nothing but porn, then I'd suggest you'd go out and get some fresh air >>;

Imo, Yak could have just set a later date for FA to be up, people can wait longer. It gives mods a chance to iron out all of the bugs and whatnot on the website, so when the website IS back up, it will be ready for users with accounts. Missing a deadline is NOT a good idea though, no matter what kind of field your in. If you're going to tell someone you will have something at a certain date, you'd better have it ready, or call in advance that you're going to need more time, things tend to work out better that way.

Now, as for the bitching furries, there's a crapton of other websites that host furry artwork. I.E. Deviantart, Sheezyart, Furry Art Pile. If you want porn, then just surf on F.A.P., or Fchan instead of QQing about it, and be patient. Maybe even . . oh I don't know, watch T.V.? Draw? Call a friend? See where I'm goin' here?

 

[Phsuke]

Now, as for the bitching furries, there's a crapton of other websites that host furry artwork. I.E. Deviantart, Sheezyart, Furry Art Pile. If you want porn, then just surf on F.A.P., or Fchan instead of QQing about it, and be patient. Maybe even . . oh I don't know, watch T.V.? Draw? Call a friend? See where I'm goin' here?

It's furries, is it really that surprising they are whining about not having porn?

 

[SpiritCreations]

Y'all are acting horrible. Why is it such a big deal that FA isn't up tonight? Okay, so they gave a deadline. They're mistake... but they are HUMAN. Humans make mistakes... a lot. Unless you're perfect, stop whining that they didn't say "estimate" instead of "deadline." It's not that big of a deal. :/ FA has been down for a long time, we can all wait another night or two.

Yak needs a break. He's exhausted and working hard. Put yourself in his shoes. Can any of you possibly do that? Imagine being pressured that thousands of people are waiting for a website to be back online, and on top of working his butt off and being exhausted, he's being slammed with the absolute immature, rude, and completely unnecessary comments from a lot of you people. He's a human, not a machine. If you all want a better website, then go build it yourself or shut up. Y'all are treating these guys like the way a lot of you treat us artists, like we're machines that work at your whim just so you can get off. Sometimes we start to yawn, ache, our eyes close, and we're temporarily unconscious. It's called sleeping. We need it like you also do. Same with admins.

Go try doing something productive until FA is online. Believe me, I want it up as much as anyone, but it's pointless to bitch and moan about how it's not online. IT'S A WEBSITE! For crying outloud, y'all are making this out to be a much bigger deal than it really is. There are bigger issues to whine about in life than a website being down for any length of time.

So sorry if your precious porn stash won't be online tonight, but there are other websites y'all can jack off to. Now, I'm done. Peace out!

 

[The Muffin Man]

Goddammit people shut the fuck up about "IF YOU WANT PORN GO TO..."
You're not clever.
You're not funny.
You're not unique.

 

[Dessy]

Well, nobody's talking to me, so I don't know if it's worth making another post... >.<

 

[EddyOkapi]

Goddammit people shut the fuck up about "IF YOU WANT PORN GO TO..."
You're not clever.
You're not funny.
You're not unique.

I don't think they try to be clever, funny or unique, they're just trying to help. Since it is true there are many other websites that has tons of porn on them... fA isn't the sole and unique source of it.

Well, nobody's talking to me, so I don't know if it's worth making another post... >.<

Hey I like reading what you post. You're one of those who isn't taking any side seriously. XD

 

[SpiritCreations]

The only reason why I'm annoyed about FA not being up when the date has been set by a mod is that I have a load of commissions to finish, and I can't get back to the reference details that was given to me by my customers. It forces me to wait, it forces them to wait, kinda not good for all of us. NOT angry, just somewhat miffed.

I had that same problem, as well. I now request that ALL clients not send me FA links for their references and stuff. If they do, I email them and tell them to upload the refs to photobucket or something (I also request to NOT send me attachments, as I use the ArtSpots queue to keep my commissions organized and I need links). If they choose to still not do that and they send me FA links anyways, then it's their problem when they don't get their commission on time. I just use FA down time as a break.

 

[Mel-the-Hybrid]

It's furries, is it really that surprising they are whining about not having porn?

Good point.

 

[The Muffin Man]

Y'all are acting horrible. Why is it such a big deal that FA isn't up tonight? Okay, so they gave a deadline. They're mistake... but they are HUMAN. Humans make mistakes... a lot. Unless you're perfect, stop whining that they didn't say "estimate" instead of "deadline." It's not that big of a deal. :/ FA has been down for a long time, we can all wait another night or two.

Being human does not mean you are allowed to put up a deadline (Deadline and Estimate are vastly different) and not make it. That is why they MAKE estimates.

Yak needs a break. He's exhausted and working hard. Put yourself in his shoes. Can any of you possibly do that? Imagine being pressured that thousands of people are waiting for a website to be back online, and on top of working his butt off and being exhausted, he's being slammed with the absolute immature, rude, and completely unnecessary comments from a lot of you people.

No. Once again. It's YOUR side. The "Don't complain" crowd that is being rude and immature in many of these posts..

He's a human, not a machine. If you all want a better website, then go build it yourself or shut up.

*twitch*
*Points at his other post*

Y'all are treating these guys like the way a lot of you treat us artists, like we're machines that work at your whim just so you can get off.

*Points up*

Sometimes we start to yawn, ache, our eyes close, and we're temporarily unconscious. It's called sleeping. We need it like you also do. Same with admins.

Go try doing something productive until FA is online.

You are a unique and special flower and this is the first time this has been said.
There.
Now shoo.

Believe me, I want it up as much as anyone, but it's pointless to bitch and moan about how it's not online. IT'S A WEBSITE! For crying outloud, y'all are making this out to be a much bigger deal than it really is. There are bigger issues to whine about in life than a website being down for any length of time.

So sorry if your precious porn stash won't be online tonight, but there are other websites y'all can jack off to. Now, I'm done. Peace out!

GODDAMMIT SHUT UP ABOUT THE "LOL PR0N" SHIT.

 

[Mel-the-Hybrid]

I had that same problem, as well. I now request that ALL clients not send me FA links for their references and stuff. If they do, I email them and tell them to upload the refs to photobucket or something (I also request to NOT send me attachments, as I use the ArtSpots queue to keep my commissions organized and I need links). If they choose to still not do that and they send me FA links anyways, then it's their problem when they don't get their commission on time. I just use FA down time as a break.

Cool, that's actually a good idea about the reference thing. *steals it* :x

 

[Art]

I swear to god, I am going to take over the world, round up ALL the people who have ever said:
"It's free, you can't complain"
"Irregardless"
"Case and point"
"Should of"
"You can't complain unless you can do better"
"Literally" (when they do not mean "it actually was")
And I am going to round you up.
And I am going to have you shot.

*Writes up plans for world domination*

Those who complain are annoying. It's a nice way of "shut up or we'll break your jaw." It's annoying to hear people complaining about anything in this world.

FA being down is not a bad thing. People need to take breaks from things from time to time. Reflex about anything you just didn't do meanwhile you were digging in FA.

Remember, FA being down is not a sign of the End of Times, Ragnarok, Judgment day, etc.

People who keeps on complaining will only get shot or beat up and I'm sure we are more people annoyed at people whining about FA being down than they at us.

 

[Kaeko]

The only reason why I'm annoyed about FA not being up when the date has been set by a mod is that I have a load of commissions to finish, and I can't get back to the reference details that was given to me by my customers. It forces me to wait, it forces them to wait, kinda not good for all of us. NOT angry, just somewhat miffed.

But that doesn't mean that I don't understand that the admins running FA don't have lives themselves. We all do. . .unless you're some kind of weirdo that spends 24/7 on the comp that stares at nothing but porn, then I'd suggest you'd go out and get some fresh air >>; and boyfriends/girlfriends

Imo, Yak could have just set a later date for FA to be up, people can wait longer. It gives mods a chance to iron out all of the bugs and whatnot on the website, so when the website IS back up, it will be ready for users with accounts. Missing a deadline is NOT a good idea though, no matter what kind of field your in. If you're going to tell someone you will have something at a certain date, you'd better have it ready, or call in advance that you're going to need more time, things tend to work out better that way.

Now, as for the bitching furries, there's a crapton of other websites that host furry artwork. I.E. Deviantart, Sheezyart, Furry Art Pile. If you want porn, then just surf on F.A.P., or Fchan instead of QQing about it, and be patient. Maybe even . . oh I don't know, watch T.V.? Draw? Call a friend? See where I'm goin' here?

I agree with Mel on this, except I had to add something.