Samael
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And now, a short discurssive piece on the nature of complaining about complaining:
"I find this thread both amusing and distressing regarding opinion - particularly on the subject of complaints... and complaining about those complaints... and then people complaining about the people complaining about the initial complaints... and more.
I doubt it's been said enough but are people not allowed to be irritated the site is down and that, when an absolute deadline is set, it was completely missed? More than the lack of the site, I think the sense of being let down has eclipsed the fact that Yak worked solidly on it. That kind of dedication is practically quixotic - valiant yet sadly flawed. If it had paid of, we'd be shouting his name in the streets... of course, since it didn't, a lot of folks are up in arms. I can live with that - I'm a little miffed to be missing out on the art and community, myself, and I do feel a touch annoyed by, once more, having to wait. I can deal with it.
What I find to be funny and, at the same time, somewhat awful is the second camp. People taking digs at the former. I have yet to see a single post after pulling myself through the topic thus far that wasn't trying to assert some superiority - "Find yourself another furry art brothel!", "Dude, it's just PORN! You care so much about PORN?!", "It's only another day - why can't you just wait?!", "Go outside! The sun - it will not burn you! I'm reading a book, why aren't you?".
If you really don't care about the site being down, well, what are you doing in the Site Discussion, on a topic about the extension of the deadline? Sure, you're posting your opinion, but you're helping less than the whiners you're trolling, implying some sense of superiorty over them. Newsflash: the people indignified are people too. They're not just here for the pr0nz - they're here for the community.
Firstly, as a kid, did you ever have to change school? Learn what's what and who's who, starting socially from the bottom up? Sure, if you make some friends quickly or find someone you know, it speeds things up a bit but you don't instantly become a part of things, still. The same can be true online, to an extent, and, even in places where it isn't the case, some folks don't want to have to try to start all over.
Secondly, as has so often been stated, not everyone is here for the porn. Some people don't even care for yiff in the slightest. I'm here to meet people, make friends, share my interests with folks of similar interests, look at the art of others and showcase my art. My art may have niche appeal but I've never once drawn or really implied anything sexual. A lot of the people wanting back to the site want to get back in touch with folks they don't have other means of getting in touch with or want to return to sharing art with one and other.
Thirdly, it is another day of waiting, true. That's just it though. It's a day of waiting after being told (or, at least, having the fact heavily implied) that Fur Affinity would be back by Monday at latest. It's another day of waiting. After the deadline. Besides - the possibility it isn't 'just one more day' of waiting has also been thought of by a good number of people. Some of them, I guess, might feel as if they were a kid who learnt Christmas had been delayed on the 25th. It doesn't matter if it's going to be on the 26th or the 15th of January - they'll be happy when it comes but they'll still feel terribly let down.
Fourthly, thanks for throwing a negative stereotype upon your own community. I guess we're all paleskinned, beardy basement dwellers who have spent so long in the unnatural glare of a 40 WATT that real sunlight will cause them intense pain. The reality of the situation is that people have been getting out and about. Those who work, go to work. Those who have hobbies, have fun. Those wanting to read novels, watch TV, go to the cinema, take in a show or tour around the countryside are doing so. They just aren't happy to do all these things and then come back to find FA still hasn't managed to be pulled back together. I confess, after spending a week in the sun of Stockholm (Very lovely city and intensely sunny at this time of year), I had expected FA to be back when I returned. It wasn't but I didn't mind. It wasn't until the deadline was broken I was even mildly agitated.
So, just curious, but why the distaste for those who are annoyed? It's debatable whether or not they're righteously annoyed but what does jabbing at them really serve?
Oh, and the people who complain about people complaining though, are a hoot. See Kinkycoyote's contribution for instance. Monty Python makes everything better."
And yes, for the record, I don't have much better to do right this second. It's 2am and I tend to go for a walk a little later in the day. I guess I might get back to my books.
"I find this thread both amusing and distressing regarding opinion - particularly on the subject of complaints... and complaining about those complaints... and then people complaining about the people complaining about the initial complaints... and more.
I doubt it's been said enough but are people not allowed to be irritated the site is down and that, when an absolute deadline is set, it was completely missed? More than the lack of the site, I think the sense of being let down has eclipsed the fact that Yak worked solidly on it. That kind of dedication is practically quixotic - valiant yet sadly flawed. If it had paid of, we'd be shouting his name in the streets... of course, since it didn't, a lot of folks are up in arms. I can live with that - I'm a little miffed to be missing out on the art and community, myself, and I do feel a touch annoyed by, once more, having to wait. I can deal with it.
What I find to be funny and, at the same time, somewhat awful is the second camp. People taking digs at the former. I have yet to see a single post after pulling myself through the topic thus far that wasn't trying to assert some superiority - "Find yourself another furry art brothel!", "Dude, it's just PORN! You care so much about PORN?!", "It's only another day - why can't you just wait?!", "Go outside! The sun - it will not burn you! I'm reading a book, why aren't you?".
If you really don't care about the site being down, well, what are you doing in the Site Discussion, on a topic about the extension of the deadline? Sure, you're posting your opinion, but you're helping less than the whiners you're trolling, implying some sense of superiorty over them. Newsflash: the people indignified are people too. They're not just here for the pr0nz - they're here for the community.
Firstly, as a kid, did you ever have to change school? Learn what's what and who's who, starting socially from the bottom up? Sure, if you make some friends quickly or find someone you know, it speeds things up a bit but you don't instantly become a part of things, still. The same can be true online, to an extent, and, even in places where it isn't the case, some folks don't want to have to try to start all over.
Secondly, as has so often been stated, not everyone is here for the porn. Some people don't even care for yiff in the slightest. I'm here to meet people, make friends, share my interests with folks of similar interests, look at the art of others and showcase my art. My art may have niche appeal but I've never once drawn or really implied anything sexual. A lot of the people wanting back to the site want to get back in touch with folks they don't have other means of getting in touch with or want to return to sharing art with one and other.
Thirdly, it is another day of waiting, true. That's just it though. It's a day of waiting after being told (or, at least, having the fact heavily implied) that Fur Affinity would be back by Monday at latest. It's another day of waiting. After the deadline. Besides - the possibility it isn't 'just one more day' of waiting has also been thought of by a good number of people. Some of them, I guess, might feel as if they were a kid who learnt Christmas had been delayed on the 25th. It doesn't matter if it's going to be on the 26th or the 15th of January - they'll be happy when it comes but they'll still feel terribly let down.
Fourthly, thanks for throwing a negative stereotype upon your own community. I guess we're all paleskinned, beardy basement dwellers who have spent so long in the unnatural glare of a 40 WATT that real sunlight will cause them intense pain. The reality of the situation is that people have been getting out and about. Those who work, go to work. Those who have hobbies, have fun. Those wanting to read novels, watch TV, go to the cinema, take in a show or tour around the countryside are doing so. They just aren't happy to do all these things and then come back to find FA still hasn't managed to be pulled back together. I confess, after spending a week in the sun of Stockholm (Very lovely city and intensely sunny at this time of year), I had expected FA to be back when I returned. It wasn't but I didn't mind. It wasn't until the deadline was broken I was even mildly agitated.
So, just curious, but why the distaste for those who are annoyed? It's debatable whether or not they're righteously annoyed but what does jabbing at them really serve?
Oh, and the people who complain about people complaining though, are a hoot. See Kinkycoyote's contribution for instance. Monty Python makes everything better."
And yes, for the record, I don't have much better to do right this second. It's 2am and I tend to go for a walk a little later in the day. I guess I might get back to my books.
