"Furaffinity will not be up tonight (that is, Monday)" discussion

[DarkSunDS]

Hah, I knew it.

Seriously, it said that the FINAL deadline was Monday morning.
Then I saw something about it being sometime Monday, which is still acceptable, but it's a self-imposed deadline, Jesus! Make proper estimations instead of telling thousands of people something you're not going to respect anyway!


That said, I have no problem waiting a while more.

 

[Nocturne]

You know... the name "Something Bawful" isn't currently in use. Could we adopt it here?

Seconded.

The general discussion forums there is called "general bullshit"... general bawshit?

 

[Rufferstuff]

Who didn't see this one coming....

I saw it and called it. "Problems with merging the new code." No ones fault unless they are supposed to see the future.

 

[Arbiter]

Okay, can I offer some advice? The donations were like what....$16,000? Wouldn't it be well within budget to hire someone to get the site up if you all are so tired? I was being very patient, but I must admit after over a month...I'm starting to become a bit frustrated. Just an idea. I'm sure the several extra thousands of dollars left over after purchasing the equipment should be more than enough to cover hiring some help.

Hmmmm, not a bad idea. I mean with all the money donated to FA, it could work. and yeah, im kinda getting furstrated as well, since i really want to put some of my stuff up really soon, and a couple of my furry friends i talk to are getting really pissed off as well. But yeah, hiring someone would be a great idea. You sir, deserve a metal

 

[Ebon Lupus]

Just FYI. That's all fine and good for a hobbyist and a fan, but believe it or not, some of us earn a significant chunk of our income doing commissions through this site. My business has been CRIPPLED for the last month. Yeah, easy enough for you to say, 'tra la la, go enjoy the sunshine!" But how would you feel if your JOB disappeared for a month? And no one could tell you when it would be coming back? Hmm?

If you are running a business you should have your own site... and be able to build a better avatar.

 

[Grimfang]

Seconded.

The general discussion forums there is called "general bullshit"... general bawshit?

Nocturne. We have much planning to do. To the BAWcave!

 

[Kaeko]

-waits patiently because the effort and time the staff took to make FA:U grand made up for her deprivation of FA-

get some sleep Yak, refresh yourself so the site can be up with no flaw.

 

[GeckoGurl]

Hmmmm, not a bad idea. I mean with all the money donated to FA, it could work. and yeah, im kinda getting furstrated as well, since i really want to put some of my stuff up really soon, and a couple of my furry friends i talk to are getting really pissed off as well. But yeah, hiring someone would be a great idea. You sir, deserve a metal

I think it could work very well, even just temporary help could be helpful and fairly inexpensive I would think. Glad you agree

 

[Rufferstuff]

I think this is a very intelligent idea, and I'm surprised no-one has thought of this until now. Temps would speed these mundane tasks to completion, and also allow FA's staff (whom I'm sure are exhausted from all the work on FA so far) to take a break. It's just good for everybody...

Speaking as someone who has to hire temp help on occasion, I can tell you that they can cause more problems than they fix.

 

[Arbiter]

I think this is a very intelligent idea, and I'm surprised no-one has thought of this until now. Temps would speed these mundane tasks to completion, and also allow FA's staff (whom I'm sure are exhausted from all the work on FA so far) to take a break. It's just good for everybody...

Ya, I mean, I guess I don't know exactly how much is left, but I think it could be very helpful...and should be relatively inexpensive.[/QUOTE]

it also depends if we can get Dragoneer and Dave Hyena to go along with it. but i think with all the people complaining and such, it could work out.

 

[Arbiter]

I think it could work very well, even just temporary help could be helpful and fairly inexpensive I would think. Glad you agree

LOL anything for FA

 

[STrRedWolf]

Oh! That was Yak's blankie that I found! That's why he's been up all night! We will have to return it...

...after it's been washed. All the yiff on it and all that. F'ing furries....

 

[The Muffin Man]

Pathetic as it is, FA is all that some people have.

If you think I'm going outside in 100 degree weather, then you're not in your right mind. And I've already played all the goddamn Mario Galaxy I can take.

You cannot be human if you've actually reached a limit on pure joy.

It seems a lot of people are *rightfully* pissed because they were told a DEADLINE. Not an ESTIMATE. Not an APPROXIMATION. Not a MAYBE. But a DEADLINE. A deadline implies "THIS is when it WILL be working, 100%, guaranteed, we promise." You don't set a deadline for yourself if you can't hold it.

Secondly, you have ONE guy who works on everything tech-wise?
What's gonna happen if he quits? Or decides he doesn't like FA? Or finds religion and thinks you're all sinners? You don't leave ONE person in charge of everything tech-wise EVER for a site. That's just plain stupid.

The site's up time was far greater than 50% before the crash, unless you factor in the several month long crash before that one, which doesn't count for the site's up time as far as I'm concerned.

...so wait.
You don't count the massive downtime as massive downtime?
Oooookay.

With what money?

$16,000 can actually hire someone for maybe a day or two.
Where do you work where $16,000 won't hire someone to help out for a week?
Hell, a MONTH? I'd KILL to make that much.

How much did you donate?

Please don't do this childish, petty crap that everyone does whenever someone brings up how they donated.
"YOU DIDN'T PAY SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT!"
"I donated money."
"HOW MUCH?"
"*amount*"
"NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A RIGHT TO BITCH"
This is always ALWAYS how it goes. Whether it's that harsh or not.

 

[Nocturne]

Nocturne. We have much planning to do. To the BAWcave!

*to the tune of the batman theme*

BAW baw baw baw baw baw baw baw BAWMAN

Holy butthurt bawman!

 

[Athais]

I'll going to be honest I didn't donate anything. It's pretty hard to donate when I work on a little over minimum wage, just had surgery and have been off of work, and haven't been able to make any money off of my second job of selling art commissions because FA is down. I was just offering a suggestion. If they need the money for something else I suppose that is fine, was just a suggestion.

I just thought maybe it would be helpful if they hired some help.

The way that you responded to that was pleasantly surprising. I apologize about being so condescending. But i've noticed the the ones that donated are not complaining nearly as much as the ones who did not give a penny.


(P.S: I was also unable to donate anything, but i forwarded the message to people who did).

 

[johnnyblanco]

I'm not angry, but as others have said giving a time frame for the site to be up at the LATEST, and then missing that date, is NOT a good thing to do.

If you aren't sure, you shouldn't be giving a date. I'm not angry, but if I had commissions and such to do I sure would be. It's a shame he was up so long without sleep, but if that's what it was going to take to get the site up... and it wasn't known it would be late until today, clearly it was known it was going to take some serious overworking to get it up.

If he needs rest, then he needs rest, but a concrete date should never have been given.

WELL SAID SIR.. WELL SAID.

 

[Kobo-Kun]

Heehee, makes me wonder how much art is gonna flood the site when it does return. ^^

 

[GeckoGurl]

Please don't do this childish, petty crap that everyone does whenever someone brings up how they donated.
"YOU DIDN'T PAY SO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT!"
"I donated money."
"HOW MUCH?"
"*amount*"
"NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A RIGHT TO BITCH"
This is always ALWAYS how it goes. Whether it's that harsh or not.

Thank you :3

 

[Ebon Lupus]

Heehee, makes me wonder how much art is gonna flood the site when it does return. ^^

I won't have enough love-juice to cover it all.

 

[Arbiter]

Heehee, makes me wonder how much art is gonna flood the site when it does return. ^^

it would be too much to count

 

[oCe]

If you are running a business you should have your own site... and be able to build a better avatar.

I have my own site, but FA has proven to be a much better place to take commissions, due to the HIGH VOLUME of traffic it receives. And see, the problem is that I have a lot of COMMISSION INFO that is TRAPPED right now on FA's note system. So I have open commissions that I can't access info about, until the site comes back up.

And, something wrong with my fender suit icon?

 

[GeckoGurl]

The way that you responded to that was pleasantly surprising. I apologize about being so condescending. But i've noticed the the ones that donated are not complaining nearly as much as the ones who did not give a penny.


(P.S: I was also unable to donate anything, but i forwarded the message to people who did).

Hehe, it's okay.

 

[Ebon Lupus]

And, something wrong with my fender suit icon?

Well, yes... but I suppose such things are subjective.

 

[Athais]

Wow... you should be on another planet by now.

I had a gallery script running for a while. I've actually had three, one open source and two I built myself. Financial and time constraints became too great and I decided that FA was sufficient. Since the only reason I bother putting my art up at all is to share it with others, and it seems to be well regarded by one of the furry sub-cultures.

My professional programming was using BAL and COBOL years ago in a bank to write loan application systems for an IBM system 370 mainframe. I haven't done any serious programming since I got fed up with humanity 20-some years ago.

Yes, debugging is a necessary part of coding, but if you know what you are doing there is VERY little debugging necessary.

*gives you a flower*

*accepts said flower*

Because when you write your code properly, no unexpected problems or oversights happens to professionals?

We can go back and forth on this all day. But i just don't like how people are you are going out on a limb to say, "Random person A that started a website to help random group of people, is not a Professional person at something nobody else has ever been able to do successfully because of how poisonous and noxious most people that consider them selves to be furry really are."

 

[johnnyblanco]

If you are running a business you should have your own site... and be able to build a better avatar.

You know what? Be quiet. Seriously. Alot of artists have alot of skills and yet NO money because the work crappy min. wage jobs. How the fuck are they supposed to afford their own site? Hmm? What should they just sell their organs on the black market?

And don't give me the shit of "Oh well they can go somewhere else" You know what? FA is popular.. everyone knows FA .. alot of people don't know Furry Art Pile or Furverts.com or any of the other sites that are out there.

And you know what? that's sad. Because people who have had to rely on this site for income have lost ALOT of it.. and you know what.. they won't see that back.

Now, your quote about running outside and all that shit. Yeah. I do other things to.. But I don't expect to be fucking LIED to when someone sets a deadline. If it was a estimate.. I wouldn't bitch.. AT ALL. But when they say.. YEP! it'll be up Monday morning.. and monday morning comes and goes.. with NO NOTIFCATIONS until the NIGHT.

Yeah. That tends to piss people off.