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Furries who hate the fandom
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Rhampage
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There might actually be some care in there.
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Sar
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Yet you still cared enough to replicate.
I meant that nobody cared about the old thread. I myself didn't see it and didn't know it existed.
Deo
The hatred of FAF personified
Then you just haven't been around long enough. I've seen people upload photos of starving or dead animals to FA without understanding that animals need to eat proper diets of proper amounts. I've seen pictures uploaded to FA of "oh fuck I threw my dog over the fence when we were playing and she landed on it and now she's got this big gouge in her leg and bleeding and limping, what do I do?" and then they refuse to take the animal to a vet when people post comments telling them vet care is necessary. I've seen journals where people brag about cropping their dogs' ears and tails with bolt cutters and journals about drowning kittens "for their own good". And raping an animal is abusive too.
Well, here's an example: Koinu-Kun is a fursuiter who raped a 17 year old girl (he was 33 at the time) while wearing his fursuit; AND he filmed it without telling her and posted it online for his buddies to watch. And then there is BetaWolf who had his FA notes leaked where he talks about his child porn collection and how he wishes he could get a hold of a real child. As for rapists, I've heard terrible con stories where one furry is a predator and the other is too drunk to defend themselves.
No, I wish I was. I have full documentation, screencaps, and more proving that such human scum thrives amongst us. And as much as people rant about Insane_Kangaroo I have to applaud the guy for being one of the few people to use his cyber-fu to trakc down these sick fucks and report them to the police. If you need more examples of sickfuckery in the fandom you should talk to him.
I am not talking about "socially awkward". I am talking about people who are doing criminal things and causing real harm and abuse to victims. This has no fucking thing to do with social awkwardness and everything to do with horrible people doing atrocious things and getting away with it because people like you wave off such things as raping a child as being "socially awkward discrimination".
QuickSticks45
Wishes he could fly
There are defiantly a lot of sick fucks in the world, again not all are in this fandom alone, but they should keep their debauchery to themselves and not drag the fandom down with them. Yet unfortunately everyone's actions affect the community in the eyes of those who witness it. Take for example the United States soldiers that are across sea, what they do over there really affects how the people in that country see America as a whole and the same is for anything else, that's why we have stereotypes because it's the way most people view a large group as a whole whether it is in good light or bad. The furry community obviously has those stereotypes and as most of us know it's not good, never once have I heard "oh you're a furry? are you a great artist?" most of the time I get "oh you're a furry? do you rape animals?", and I feel that there should be a separation from the people that associate themselves with the fandom and cruel things that they do.
Glitch
SLUDGE FACE
I've actually drifted to disliking a LOT (not all) of the fandom.
I whine, right? I'm a teenager who is damn good at it. But DAMN IT, there are a lot of other teen furs younger than I that bitch and moan over trivial crap even more than I do. I didn't even think it was possible.
A bit unrelated, but contributes to the hatred:
Then you have the freaking furs that treat Therians and Otherkin like shit and call them retards just because of who they are. Or furs assume that we all think that WE ARE NOT HYOOMAN AT ALL AND WE CAN TRANSFORM INTO ANIMULS when that *typically* isn't the case. That just isn't cool. Not pulling shit out of thin air here, either; I've seen it on these forums.
Not all furs do that, yeah. But still, it's annoying when a minority does it. It skews my view of the majority.
I whine, right? I'm a teenager who is damn good at it. But DAMN IT, there are a lot of other teen furs younger than I that bitch and moan over trivial crap even more than I do. I didn't even think it was possible.
A bit unrelated, but contributes to the hatred:
Then you have the freaking furs that treat Therians and Otherkin like shit and call them retards just because of who they are. Or furs assume that we all think that WE ARE NOT HYOOMAN AT ALL AND WE CAN TRANSFORM INTO ANIMULS when that *typically* isn't the case. That just isn't cool. Not pulling shit out of thin air here, either; I've seen it on these forums.
Not all furs do that, yeah. But still, it's annoying when a minority does it. It skews my view of the majority.
Bipolar Bear
Phallus Fellater
Today is not mantrasand's day, is it?
Oh my God...
The thing is, terrible people like that specifically aren't furries... those are just sick fuck animal abusers and most abusers like that aren't furries. Some are furries, but don't say furries do those things.
That's two people... and the drunk person should not have been drunk, or should have had a friend look out for them. Their fault. Being drunk in an environment like that is asking for it.
I doubt there's really THAT much that goes on, though.
I'm not waving off crime as "social awkwardness". I'm sorry, maybe it didn't happen in this thread, but a lot of furries do blame "socially awkward" people who are well-behaved and quiet for problems within the fandom. It annoys the fuck outta me.
morphology
Arch-meanie
Are you seriously comparing US soldiers to members of the fandom who rape animals?
Whiskey.Tango.Foxtrot
in madness I wait
I am sure thats on FA somewhere, and somefur is fapping to it
Deo
The hatred of FAF personified
MY FUCKING GOD. YOU ARE OBTUSE.
I specifically listed those examples because they WERE POSTED BY FURRIES ON FURAFFINITY. They had LONG STANDING accounts with full galleries, watcher lists, and so weren't trolls. THEY WERE SICKFUCK FURRIES.
Your quote seems to rely on the idea that I have no fucking clue what I am talking about. Since you fucking ignored everything I said and restated that the abuseres weren't furries. Which means you either think I'm retarded or lying. So fuck you, I kinow full well what I am talking about you pompous asshole. Go ahead, tell me one more fucking time that the screencaps, names, arrest pages, and other things I've seen aren't abusive furries. Insinuate one more time that I am too fucking stupid to state a claim and fucking mean it with absolute conviction. Make my motherfucking day.
Persons A, B, and C are furries.
Persons A, B, and C abuse animals.
Ergo furries do those things.
Fucking god. You have to be kidding. You can't possibly be insinuating that people are asking to be raped. No one is that soulless.
Fuck you again for insinuating that I cannot possibly know what I am talking about.
Hakar Kerarmor
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Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
FA bans cub porn, which is a way of looking at child porn but less illegal. Forum gets flooded with ragethreads from the masses of pedophiles unable to view their kiddyfiddling here.
Or there was the fursuiter in the fucksuit who got arrested for hanging out in playparks.
So, furries are all lovely balanced and wholesome individuals.
Or there was the fursuiter in the fucksuit who got arrested for hanging out in playparks.
So, furries are all lovely balanced and wholesome individuals.
Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
Stop defending Deo. This is fucking nepotism right here and why furries are all terrible. Stop persecuting my good friend Manstrand, and leave us alone. Together.
Whiskey.Tango.Foxtrot
in madness I wait
while his choice of analogies is not the wisest, I can understand what is being said. The few outright attrocites that occur (as a combat vet, I am not even going to get into the definition of that) cast a horrible image of the entire military and US action anywhere in the world. But that is the way the media plays it out. The media feeds, sheeple eat it up greedily. Same thing has occurred with the fandom. A few get a notion for fame, then spread their pervertedness on TV, the net......etc, in the name of "its what furries do". Thanks for nothing Chewfox!
Deo
The hatred of FAF personified
Exactly. This extreme tolerance and excuse making for criminals absolutely sickens me.
A society of moral sentient beings does not make excuses or protect violent abusers.
Anyone who condones such atrocities or turns a blind eye is guilty as well for not protecting the victims.
RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE
Followed by more foul language and childish insults. How fun. ^.^
What about persons D, E, F, G, H, etc. who aren't animal abusers?
Maybe I was harsh with my wording, but I think that people need to be responsible enough to make sure that if they're in a state of intoxication where they're not fully "with it", they need a sober friend to make sure nothing happens. Or they need to be in a place that nobody can harm them. The rapist is of course at fault, but this could have been avoided had someone been more careful and not been wandering around alone while drunk.
Cool insult bro.
And I'm sorry, but... cartoon drawings of young anthropomorphic characters is not the same as actual child porn. Not that I condone either, but that's like I drew a picture of myself murdering someone, then I actually did it. Two different things.
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Smelge
Hey, Assbutt
Wrong. Cub porn, you're getting sexual gratification from the depiction of an child getting fucked. Chances are if you draw a picture of you murdering someone, you won't be getting off to it. That's the difference. But it's one you'd have to think for a minute to understand, so I don't expect you to get it.
Bipolar Bear
Phallus Fellater
Oh for fu--
Glitch
SLUDGE FACE
Like that is news? :V
Seriously though, you put up a decent argument (I use "decent" very, very loosely; I think it is just your grammar that is a saving grace), but are you honestly blaming the victims for their actions? The correct answer would be to lock up rapists so we wouldn't have to worry as much. I'm not talking about people whose girlfriends said "well I charged my bf with rape cuz he said he'd dump me lol what do?" (seen it on the net before), I am talking about rapists.
Off Tangent here, second person not angled at anyone in particular.
As far as pedophilia goes, I do not think it is a controllable urge. Same with zoophilia. But fuck it is just unacceptable to act upon those urges. Have the thoughts, ok, but keep them to yourself and don't you dare harm anything. I won't defend your sickfuckery if you do something. (Just thinking about the work of Alfred Kinsey. I ignore the retards like Judith Reisman who scream that he was a pedophile. I mean, really, this lady thinks that fags caused the Holocaust and recruit young kids like the Marines.)
Dreaming
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Gosh, I hate to go off-topic here....but how exactly is that ''asking for it''? Whether they should've been drunk or not, people get drunk, Fact. And you don't exactly go to a con expecting to get raped (why the heck should you?) So why would anyone feel the need to take someone with them to look out for them? Either way, you can't state that it's the victim's fault without knowing the full story. Do you know the full story?
morphology
Arch-meanie
Protip newbie: This is not a way to win an argument. Though you're probably just intentionally egging folks on now.
That's a logical fallacy called Argumentum ad Populum. Persons A, B, C are animal abusers, but not all furries are animal abusers, therefore it's not a problem. Just because folks who commit stupid and criminal things are a minority in a fandom does NOT mean that the issue can just be swept under the rug and ignored.
Are you seriously resorting to victim-blaming? I have no idea why this argument is brought up only in the case of rape, but it is such backwards logic to blame the victim for the fact that a crime is committed. It's so ridiculous in the context of another crime - "they wouldn't have gotten robbed if they didn't have so much money" for example. And giving this tut tutting of the victim "oh they should have had someone with them" grossly underplays the horror of rape. And to top it off, what made you think talking about rape victims would enhance your argument?
The fact that you've resorted now to "cool story bro" is fairly obvious that you have no intent of arguing like a rational person. This being your first post, either you're a complete idiot, or you didn't go into this forum with the intent of joining us and having reasonable debates and whatnot. And now that you're doing the internet equivalent of sticking your tongue out at the opposing argument, you're going to open the floodgates of the rest of the forum to swoop down and tear you to pieces. I highly recommend backing down.
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