Furry election 2012.

[CannonFodder]

Well actually, in 2008, mccain didnt win by much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas,_2008

55.4% voted for mccain, or 4,479,328. 43.6% voted for obama, or 3,528,633. Texas is the 2nd largest state in electoral votes, only california is bigger n terms of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2008

Yeah, people always stereotype Texas as 324230975238572% conservative or something and claim we're a bunch of rednecks who ride horses to work and herd cattle across the plains.
As for the voter fraud, it's not so much as voter fraud as some of our politicians gerrymandering voting districts in order to supress the opposing party in elections. Think of it this way, even though 55.4% voted for mccain and 43.6% for obama don't you find it a bit strange that the number of representatives in congress does not represent that?

 

[Captain Howdy]

Look at it this way, it helps balance out California which is one of the most liberal states in the nation.

I know that, I was merely being factual.

Well actually, in 2008, mccain didnt win by much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas,_2008

55.4% voted for mccain, or 4,479,328. 43.6% voted for obama, or 3,528,633. Texas is the 2nd largest state in electoral votes, only california is bigger n terms of them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_California,_2008

In california, 8,274,473 or61.0% voted for obama, and 5,011,781 or 37.0% voted for mccain in 2008.
California is more liberal than texas is conservative, but somehow texas is being accused of voter fraud and unfair elections on here and califnrinia isn't....

Yes I know, but Texas is still the most Conservative state, I think. The Voter Fraud thing is bullshit altogether, dunno why people are even bothering discussing it.

 

[CannonFodder]

Yes I know, but Texas is still the most Conservative state, I think. The Voter Fraud thing is bullshit altogether, dunno why people are even bothering discussing it.

Depends on where you live in Texas. The panhandle is the most conservative part of Texas, whereas the Austin area is extremely liberal. Being in Waco sucks though, cause I live next to Baylor :<

 

[CannonFodder]

Just ow, just fucking ow. The romney campaign did a extremely bad and I mean horrible photoshop to make it look like there were more people at one of his rallies.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcd797KXSh1rvbuguo1_1280.jpg
I think it was about to give me aneurism if I stared at it any longer.

 

[Spatel]

I'm clearly retarded, because I looked at it for a minute and didn't notice anything.

And then someone pointed it out to me. And suddenly every single thing in the picture jumped out at me.

 

[Kosdu]

Can I haz thing pointed out to me?

And cheezeburgers, that too.

 

[Aetius]

Could there actually be a chance that Romney may win the Popular vote?

 

[CannonFodder]

Could there actually be a chance that Romney may win the Popular vote?

It's very possible, but the chances of him winning the electoral vote is still hovering at less than a 1/3 chance.

 

[Captain Howdy]

Could there actually be a chance that Romney may win the Popular vote?

I'm doubting it, but I think he might get a somewhat close second. Maybe like 5-8% less than Obama.

 

[Lobar]

Can I haz thing pointed out to me?

The photo on the bottom, it's been chopped up, and multiple copies of the pieces stitched together to stretch out that tent and make it look far bigger and more populated than it actually was.

Start at the pillars in the foreground, then look at the crowd in the back and the treeline, look at the support structure holding up the canvas, try reading the overhead banner from behind...

It's a REALLY bad photoshop job.

 

[Kosdu]

Oh, thanks man.

Oh my good gosh, I've never seen a more botched job
XD

 

[CannonFodder]

Oh, thanks man.

Oh my good gosh, I've never seen a more botched job
XD

At most the central area is the only actual area with people in it and even some of the seats are photoshoped to fill in empty seats. It's giving me a migraine trying to find all the photoshoped areas.


And now Romney is using Obama's 2008 slogan of "change". Romney needs to stop this silliness, it's going to give someone a fatal aneurysm at this point.

 

[Spatel]

Could there actually be a chance that Romney may win the Popular vote?

It looks very likely that Romney will win the popular vote, based on national polls from the past few weeks. He has an uphill climb to win the electoral vote though. Unless something changes in the polls in the next week, we are on track for another Electoral College/Popular Vote split just 12 years after the previous one.

 

[Kosdu]

So a friend of mine with common sense, watched the last debate.

Appearently, he said Romney claimed he wanted to "Cut taxes on the middle class and increase taxes on the first"



What. The. Hell.

 

[Aleu]

So a friend of mine with common sense, watched the last debate.

Appearently, he said Romney claimed he wanted to "Cut taxes on the middle class and increase taxes on the first"



What. The. Hell.

That's his position for the week.

Also that photoshop was so godawful even I noticed it, and I'm shit at it.

 

[Lobar]

It looks very likely that Romney will win the popular vote, based on national polls from the past few weeks. He has an uphill climb to win the electoral vote though. Unless something changes in the polls in the next week, we are on track for another Electoral College/Popular Vote split just 12 years after the previous one.

Keep in mind that the cable news media benefits from a race that appears to be highly contentious, so they're going to favor reporting the polls that fit that narrative.

Nate Silver's aggregate poll model has the favorability to win the popular vote at 71%-29% in Obama's favor, and Romney's chances of winning the Electoral College without the popular vote only at 5.3%.

 

[TeenageAngst]

Hmm, this poll has too few options. Obviously it was made by an Obamney bot. 34 pages though, I'm sure this was pointed out...

*does a topic search for Johnson*

*6 results, only 3 of which mention him*

Stay classy, FAF. I'll be over in the Libertarian/Ron Paul camp for the second election in a row.

 

[Lobar]

Hmm, this poll has too few options. Obviously it was made by an Obamney bot. 34 pages though, I'm sure this was pointed out...

*does a topic search for Johnson*

*6 results, only 3 of which mention him*

Stay classy, FAF. I'll be over in the Libertarian/Ron Paul camp for the second election in a row.

this explains so much about your posting

 

[TeenageAngst]

Yeah, what'cha see is what'cha get.

So how 'bout them drone strikes, there was a division on that point in the debates, eh?

 

[CannonFodder]

Yeah, what'cha see is what'cha get.

So how 'bout them drone strikes, there was a division on that point in the debates, eh?

Both Obama and Romney are pro-drone strikes.

 

[TeenageAngst]

What are you talking about, Cannon? Obama is demonstrably pro-drone by having already committed numerous acts of murder and inflicting terrible collateral damage in the name of keeping America safe. Romney however is a flip-flopper. Sure, right now he might be pro-drone, but if he gets elected, you never know! You just can't believe the man. What if Romney gets elected, and some 8 year old in Yemen that would otherwise have been killed in a drone strike decides he/she wants to attack U.S. soldiers occupying his/her country?

It's night and day.

 

[Spatel]

Keep in mind that the cable news media benefits from a race that appears to be highly contentious, so they're going to favor reporting the polls that fit that narrative.

Nate Silver's aggregate poll model has the favorability to win the popular vote at 71%-29% in Obama's favor, and Romney's chances of winning the Electoral College without the popular vote only at 5.3%.

Nate Silver's model is based on an aggregate of state polls. Nationwide popular vote polls have had Romney at an advantage for the past two weeks. Historically, these national pollsters have much larger error bars than the aggregate of state polls, and they gradually converge with the state results in the last few days approaching the election.

I do believe I was mistaken though. After looking at the national polls again I fail to see a Romney advantage. You could pretty much choose the polls you like and run with a narrative that makes you feel good.

Gallup - Romney +5
Rasmussen - Romney +3
ABC/Washington Post - Romney +1
IBD/TIPP - Obama +2
AP/Gfk - Romney +2
CBS - Obama +2
Politico/GWU - Romney +2
Monmouth/SurveyUSA - Romney +3
Washington Times/JZ Analytics - Obama +3
NBC/Marist - Tie
Hartford - Obama +3

This was taken from RCP by the way. I know it's a conservative site. I just use it psychologically to gauge the 'worst possible scenario', as it tends to be fairly accurate, plus maybe 2 percentage points in the R direction.

 

[CannonFodder]

Nate Silver's model is based on an aggregate of state polls. Nationwide popular vote polls have had Romney at an advantage for the past two weeks. Historically, these national pollsters have much larger error bars than the aggregate of state polls, and they gradually converge with the state results in the last few days approaching the election.

I do believe I was mistaken though. After looking at the national polls again I fail to see a Romney advantage. You could pretty much choose the polls you like and run with a narrative that makes you feel good.

Gallup - Romney +5
Rasmussen - Romney +3
ABC/Washington Post - Romney +1
IBD/TIPP - Obama +2
AP/Gfk - Romney +2
CBS - Obama +2
Politico/GWU - Romney +2
Monmouth/SurveyUSA - Romney +3
Washington Times/JZ Analytics - Obama +3
NBC/Marist - Tie
Hartford - Obama +3

This was taken from RCP by the way. I know it's a conservative site. I just use it psychologically to gauge the 'worst possible scenario', as it tends to be fairly accurate, plus maybe 2 percentage points in the R direction.

You keep forgetting it's about the electoral votes and not the popular votes though.

 

[Rheumatism]

I'm voting for Gibby.

 

[Lobar]

You keep forgetting it's about the electoral votes and not the popular votes though.

We were discussing the possibility of a split between the electoral vote and popular vote, though, which would result in an epic media shitfest.

Even worse would be if Romney somehow pulled off an electoral vote tie without winning the popular vote, which could possibly result in fulfilling some Mayan prophecies.