That is more a campaign slogan of obamas.
I dont really recall having talked of religion
Its in large part because liberals tend to like using individual conservatives failings to discredit conservatism in general. Instead of rightly calling out the individual for wrongdoing they call out everyone like him and act like they are the same way. The ones doing the bad stuff should be called out on it.
I also fail to see why any of it has anything to do with Romney though. does anyone seriously believe Romney is seething with hate at gay people? Mormon jokes aside, has Romney been found to have is tresses or any divorces. I question how much is attacks on romney himself, and attacks against the republican party as a platform
Liek arguing all republicans are against all abortions, when they are not. Or republicans only care about the rich. etc. These are straw men. It is better to tear down what he is running on, not strawmen of republicans in general.
ROmney has plans and proposals for helping the middle class
many of his claims about the middle class being hurt by Romneys plans were found false, like :
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-romney-could-take-away-middle-class-tax/ .
On the debt, I dont see obama cutting it, romney has a plan to start cutting it, though its long term and largely involves spending cuts, which is whats horrifying liberals.
Romney has also discussed plans to create jobs, though I know that that is unlikely, because presidents dont create jobs directly, they set policy that lets the economy grow.
Saying "Romney wall screw us" sounds more like scremongering to meme, amny said the same when Obama took office and we are still here.
I cant find any proof that educate n is better under obama,
the jobless rate is around 8 percent, it went up last month to 7.9 percent, and both will take troops out of Afghanistan. Obama is not terrible as a president, but i still think we can do better.
Calling it a campaign slogan of Obama's doesn't negate the fact that it's true.
We haven't talked recently on religion, last year and the year before that though, phew.
When so many conservatives act like morally holy rollers, it stops becoming 'calling out the individual' and turns into 'wow, maybe this group is a bunch of assholes'. If it was just a handful of conservatives, then yes it'd be unfair to label them that, but it's not a handful, it's dozens upon dozens over the years.
That paragraph was attacking conservatives in general, but Romney isn't too far off of that whole thing - He's just done a better job at saying less about all of his opinions.
"Like arguing all republicans are against abortions" - That is a Strawman argument. You're putting words into my mouth, Strawmanning my argument, while claiming I'm making a Strawman argument.
I mean, I guess if we're going to start throwing around logical fallacies, your last two posts have been largely red herrings or strawman arguments in-and-of-themselves. You bring up irrelephant stuff that I didn't say, or add more to what I'm saying and then counter those point - Rather than my actual points.
In case you didn't read that whole politifact article, let me point out this part for you:
"Romney has said he would not reduce the mortgage deduction and has promised not to increase taxes on the middle class. However, he has failed to provide enough details for analysts to model what his plan would actually do.
There are reasonable concerns that the numbers in Romney’s plan don’t add up. The ad assumes that to get the numbers right, the worst possible outcomes for the middle class are likely. It says some major deductions could be taken away."
So what we can extract from that is: he promises not to raise taxes on the middle class (which is not the same as helping, or lowering taxes), but he hasn't given enough details about his plan - So all we have is promises and numbers that don't add up, if I'm to be so bold. Get it?
Like said above, Romney has given vague details on how he plans on cutting the deficit. He's not going to cut taxes on the rich, and he promises not to raise taxes on the middle class, but he's going to "cut out underbrush of deductions and loopholes in the tax code" - Which he has yet to expand upon. He wants to cut income tax rates, but hasn't proposed how he's going to pay for it. Though what I do know for certain, is that Romney wants to add 2 trillion to the deficit by literally feeding 2 trillion into the defense budget, and has offered no way to pay for it. So we can only assume it's going to add to the deficit, or he's going to be cutting somethings important.
Romney on jobs though, is somewhat laughable, due to his personal investments in companies that outsource jobs and investing in foreign companies. Romney has stated that he wants to create 12 million jobs, which is partially assuming what you're talking about, but that has already been rated as null and void.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/16/fact-check-romneys-12-million-jobs/ because 12 million jobs are estimated to be created by 2016 anyways, with or without him. He hasn't promised jobs on top of that, so if all he wants is 12 million - That's likely what we're going to get, regardless.
"Romney will screw us" is a personal opinion, and partially scarey, I do admit....Though it's based in likelihoods and numbers, even if it is an opinion.
Obama passed Race to the Top, which is a 4.35 billion investment into the education system to give less-funded schools more funds and higher quality teachers, improving the graduation rate of high-schoolers, and basically doing a mini-recovery of Bush's No Child Left Behind act.
Obama has managed to keep the unemployment rate from exploding nationally, even if some states were hit harder than others. It was 7.3% when Bush left, and it's 7.9% now, after one of the largest economic melt-downs in US history. It is still high, it was only 5.7 when Bush entered, but it's been
only been steadily dropping month by month since the rate reached its peak - Not quickly, but
the actual numbers are there. If you follow the average rate, it'll be 6.7 by this time next year, and 5.5 by 2014 - Thought that's merely based on the -.1%/month.
I agree that we can definitely do better, but Romney is not the answer.
