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Games, that are very difficult but not frustrating.

Surgat

Where is your mod now?
Ikaruga.
 

Zeraio

Member
Some game from back in 1999 or so that was one of the VERY few browser games based with RLC (real time combat) that was a tank shooter. Got hard due to no healing and wave after wave of enemies while you "rushed" around in a pixel tank shooting other tanks that were made up of nothing but lines and bad color. Got hard after the first level but was never frustrating, just gave the desire to see if you could get them next time round by being faster.
 

GarthTheWereWolf

Captious Lycanthrope of Forum Legend
yesyesyesyes



As opposed to Ninja Gaiden 2, with it's ridiculous shuriken spamming ninjas -_-

Its not that they spam the shurikens that makes it annoying; Its that they throw them offscreen that pisses me off. In the first one enemies wouldn't throw their projectiles if they were offscreen, so that things wouldn't get so rediculously out of hand like in NG2.


Omg yes! xD That game is insane, but so fun. An you know its all possible since the game provides u with videos of the levels being done properly. I've still yet to beat that game xP I always get to the last bosses final form where u just gotta outlast it before it dies on its own, but I never can do it... ._.
 

Völf

Psychic Mastermind
yesyesyesyes



As opposed to Ninja Gaiden 2, with it's ridiculous shuriken spamming ninjas -_-

I KNOW RIGHT! Freaking ninjas on mentor and Master ninja just throw a billion explosives and rockets at you and you blink- then you're dead! I'm almost thru on mentor now... I even like the bossfights better than the stupid explosives ninjas. >:\

I always run around with the tallons and use the running Izuna drop. And another game... Smackdown vs. Raw. You crank up the difficulty, the computer doesn't get better. It just counters you like 92% of the time, which is a ridiculous counter rate anyway. It's not more skilled, you just can't hit it XP
 
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Bokracroc

Bokra, come out to pla-ay
Let me just say that Ouendan 2 can be hellishly diifficult if one doesn't know the songs at first (and I thought Elite Beat Agents was hard... heh). But that still doesn't stop it from being so frickin' fun... XD
The songs make it enjoyable.
 

SuperFurryBonzai

is that really necessary?
fallout 3 was difficult for me i may just be stupid and not know how to play...but i found it very hard yet i always come back to play
 

lupinealchemist

Hamburger time.
Fallout 1 & 2. Still not sure how to properly use the science skill or ally skills.



I would say Baldur's Gate, but that is downright bullshit frustrating.
 
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Tycho

Guest
Fallout 1 & 2. Still not sure how to properly use the science skill or ally skills.



I would say Baldur's Gate, but that is downright bullshit frustrating.

You use Science on things like computers, to get information you might not otherwise get. Science also opens up some different dialog trees with certain NPCs in the game. As for ally skills... do you mean like Vic's Repair skills? Simply try to use your Repair skill on something and if his Repair skill is higher than yours he'll volunteer to do it for you. (Sometimes, anyway - I've found that this seems to be somewhat unreliable, sometimes he doesn't actually DO anything, despite what he says.) As for members like Sulik or Cassidy, their skills are always combat-oriented, and they automatically put them to good use if you give them a suitable weapon.

In Fallout 1 you have a LOT less direct control over your party members, and you're usually limited to simple dialog choices to try and make them change their behavior slightly. The only way you can get them to use better weapons (not sure about armor) is to use Steal on them and plant the weapon/item in their inventory, as far as I know. There are mods that change this, I think.

Only things that downright frustrated the hell out of me in BG were charm spells and fear spells. Fucking mages.
 

lupinealchemist

Hamburger time.
You use Science on things like computers, to get information you might not otherwise get. Science also opens up some different dialog trees with certain NPCs in the game.
Haven't found a computer yet that passed a skill check, I have almost 50 science. I was however able to get a charisma chip installed at San Francisco.
 
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Tycho

Guest
Haven't found a computer yet that passed a skill check, I have almost 50 science. I was however able to get a charisma chip installed at San Francisco.

You'll want at least 81 Science to do lotsa stuff in FO2. Big Books of Science can be purchased all over the place and there's quite a few freebies around too.
 

Bokracroc

Bokra, come out to pla-ay
Unfortunately you can't damage baddies by using Science on them :( My super charisma/nerd chick tried so hard to blind people with Science :(
 

Talosar

Member
Only things that downright frustrated the hell out of me in BG were charm spells and fear spells. Fucking mages.

Oh dear. Baldur's Gate's mages were incredibly formidable. At levels 1-3 or so you just weren't equipped to deal with mages a couple of levels above you, especially when they'd cast horror or several magic missiles at once. Oh, and yes, charm was terrible.

Well, going back and playing again now I can beat them much more easily, but you were still thrown right into the deep end with that game. It was great, though - the rewards were always worth it (except at the Firewine ruins).
 
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Tycho

Guest
Unfortunately you can't damage baddies by using Science on them :( My super charisma/nerd chick tried so hard to blind people with Science :(

I laughed pretty hard. /salute.

Oh dear. Baldur's Gate's mages were incredibly formidable. At levels 1-3 or so you just weren't equipped to deal with mages a couple of levels above you, especially when they'd cast horror or several magic missiles at once. Oh, and yes, charm was terrible.

Oh, hi Asshole-at-the-Friendly-Arm-Inn! Imoen and those 2 evil-aligned fuckmooks outside Candlekeep are incredibly useful there. Give them all daggers (FAST WEAPON) and sic them on him, try and interrupt his casting. Silke in Beregost is a lot of "fun", too - her Lightning Bolt is horrifically destructive. It's great if you can somehow avoid getting killed by it, because sometimes it'll bounce back off a wall and toast the bitch.
 

pheonix

back'n up back'n up
Extreme G III. I was in second on the final lap of one of the hardest tracks and got bombed by the CPU and lost. >.< Not to mention sharp turns at 500+MPH almost never go well. XD Fun game, hard as sin though.
 

LordWibble

Member
Any of the Devil May Cry series (barring 2, which was piss-easy). Horribly difficult, but if you die, it's your own fault. The game is never cheap.

SWAT 4. Got killed in a single shot walking through a doorway? Then why the hell didn't you use an optiwand, note the location of any suspects and chuck a flashbang in beforehand? The touch I appreciated most was when a suspect acted compliant, but just before dropping his weapon turned it on you. It meant you had to be constantly on alert. Absolutely brilliant game.
 
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