Grand Theft Auto IV
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ADF
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You said you were a hardcore PC gamer but made a comment like that? <.=.< I would have thought you would know more on PC building.
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A friend of mine built this, it runs Crysis on a mixture of medium and high settings @ 1440x900, anyone in America want to do the math to see how much that is in dollars –VAT? The goal was to make a Crysis playing PC box for the price of a PS3. Only that isn’t how computer builders operate, they don’t buy an entire new PC every time they want to upgrade. They slot in a new graphics card, or CPU, or ram depending on their needs at the time. You can even take that web only PC you have sitting in the corner and upgrade that into a gaming machine for far less than the price of a brand new system, it doesn’t take much to upgrade a typical Vista premium retail PC into a gaming rig either.
This is usually when the person arguing against PC shifts the argument to attack something else; like I’m more comfortable gaming on the couch or I don’t want to mess with drivers and potential bugs or most games appear on consoles anyway. Fine, that is your preference, but don’t use it to look down your nose at people who happen to prefer what PC gaming has to offer.
Yes consoles are cheaper, that is because they are mass produced specialist machines, PCs do allot more and even overtake consoles in gaming performance with the right hardware. You get what you pay for, if you only want a cheap gaming machine console is fine for that, but don’t act like the extra price tag gives no advantages to a PC gamer.
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complication5
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GTA4 is the most amazing game I have ever seen. Dragoneer was mentioning how the graphics were not that good. As I am not playing on a HD television I can understand that - since I can not see the ultra fine details. In some buildings and lighting it is almost photo-realistic.
The amount of detail is incredible. The rain stops if you go under an overpass, street lights turn off and on depending on the time of day, enemies don't always die - they roll around in pain, boats hit wakes and move accordingly, every car handles differently, driving in a police car with the sirens running causing traffic to get out of your way, minigames like pool, darts, bowling are all handled nicely, rain effects are breathtaking, people run and get out their umbrellas, if you catch someone littering you can pick up their cup and throw it at their head, people fight you sometimes if you try and steal their car, one can use anything as cover when firing, switching between auto-fire and manual fire is tight, fire and explosion effects are photo-realistic, a wide variety of radio stations keeps the music fresh, online multiplayer is REALLY fun IMHO, ...
I could keep going. The amount of attention to detail is unlike any other game I have ever seen. Even if this isn't your type of game it must get respect for it's revolutionary footprint in the evolution of video games.
The amount of detail is incredible. The rain stops if you go under an overpass, street lights turn off and on depending on the time of day, enemies don't always die - they roll around in pain, boats hit wakes and move accordingly, every car handles differently, driving in a police car with the sirens running causing traffic to get out of your way, minigames like pool, darts, bowling are all handled nicely, rain effects are breathtaking, people run and get out their umbrellas, if you catch someone littering you can pick up their cup and throw it at their head, people fight you sometimes if you try and steal their car, one can use anything as cover when firing, switching between auto-fire and manual fire is tight, fire and explosion effects are photo-realistic, a wide variety of radio stations keeps the music fresh, online multiplayer is REALLY fun IMHO, ...
I could keep going. The amount of attention to detail is unlike any other game I have ever seen. Even if this isn't your type of game it must get respect for it's revolutionary footprint in the evolution of video games.
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
Easy there man peach, I was merely saying that PC isn't all that great now, either. Lol. Calm down. And honestly, I used to work in a computer stores.. build PCs and such, but that was years ago. I upgraded my system not long ago, had to pay over two hundred dollars.. and I still know this couldn't run Crysis, at least not on medium or high. And my friend paid $750 for a computer, and he can only run Crysis on low. I know building your own is cheaper, but things are still expensive. Lots of people don't even know how to make one. Sure, it may be cheaper for people who know what they're doing, but let's face it.. I'd say 3/4ths of the people who buy PCs, buy them already constructed and don't do it themselves.
Anyway. He acted like PC was so much better than console, and I was pointing out that in this day and age.. it's not. PC has advantages, but gaming wise it's starting to lag behind. I mean, when's even the last time you've heard of a bunch of people lining up for a game that came out on the PC? The Half-Life series was amazing, but hell.. even that you can now get on a console. And PS3.. eh, I think the PS3 is overpriced really. I wasn't too fond of 'em, and I'd choose a PC over that any day.
Most game companies are focusing more on consoles now, also. That's why I said PC gaming has died down. People want something affordable.. something they can buy and plug in right out of the box, not have to either build a computer and/or install a bunch of crap.. etc etc. And just nowadays.. PC gamers just don't have a ton more than console gamers do.. consoles have most of the games, too. Sure, mods.. but other than that and a mouse/keyboard, what else?
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
I'm not playing on an HD either, but I still think the graphics are pretty impressive.. with the environment and cars. The people, yeah.. not so much, but the GTA games have never been really the best with graphics.
And yeah, little details like that really come together to make a great game. ;] Even when you get a phonecall on your cell, the radio will make a little bit of static-y noise.. I thought that was funny. I even thought my own cell was going off. xD Haven't gotten to play multiplayer online yet, sadly.
I wish they had allowed car customization, though.. that was a little thing in San Andreas, but I thought it was a lot of fun. Something that made Saints Row a little better as well. xb
Bokracroc
Bokra, come out to pla-ay
Bolded stuff existed in the other games.
hey sometimes didn't grab onto the car mirror when you drive off though
Is Darts really shit easy? Because I got the 180 (Three triple 20's) Achievement on my first three throws.
And about the radio stations, instead of creating 70 billion of them (Ok fine, I think there's around 18) why not just keep the same amount as last time and make the playlists longer?
OnyxVulpine
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Badman is worst..
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
That reminds me of a few things, actually..
Pool doesn't really feel right.. like, once the ball hits the wall it seems to instantly slow down.. they don't really seem to respond how they should. Also, grenades in this game can suck sometimes.. I've gotten killed by my own grenades because he throws underhand.. so unless I'm using RB to get against a vehicle, he'll throw the grenade against the side of the vehicle.. that's really annoying.
There's also a bug on one of the last missions, maybe not a but.. but you have to get in a boat, but it's really glitchy when you try to get on the boat.. And even when you try to drive it, sometimes your guy will just stand there and not get in the passenger seat. What makes it worse, is a missle will come and kill you, so you have to get on the boat and drive away in like 8 seconds.. I've gotten killed 4 times in a row doing that mission because my guy wouldn't get in the drivers seat. Arg..
Pool doesn't really feel right.. like, once the ball hits the wall it seems to instantly slow down.. they don't really seem to respond how they should. Also, grenades in this game can suck sometimes.. I've gotten killed by my own grenades because he throws underhand.. so unless I'm using RB to get against a vehicle, he'll throw the grenade against the side of the vehicle.. that's really annoying.
There's also a bug on one of the last missions, maybe not a but.. but you have to get in a boat, but it's really glitchy when you try to get on the boat.. And even when you try to drive it, sometimes your guy will just stand there and not get in the passenger seat. What makes it worse, is a missle will come and kill you, so you have to get on the boat and drive away in like 8 seconds.. I've gotten killed 4 times in a row doing that mission because my guy wouldn't get in the drivers seat. Arg..
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
Badman?
OnyxVulpine
Member
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
I just beat the game, actually.. got the Liberty City Minute achievement, too (beat the story under 30 hours.. I made it by 8 minutes. xD). But I've got a bleh memory sometimes.. at least with names. xD
OnyxVulpine
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The old rasta guy that always says "My youth"
ADF
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I'm honestly not defending that other guy; what's happening is you insulted PC gaming to get back at that guy which a passing PC gamer like myself read, no one likes to see someone bad mouthing their platform so I responded against your comment. I have an argument ready for your most recent post but lets face it, I'm going to post a counter argument which then you will criticise PC gaming again and I'll post a counter argument again.
We can either continue doing this for the next couple of pages, creating a mess in the GTA thread, or we can stop this now ok?
kitetsu
pissy esoteric
30 hours?? That sounds... really disappointing.
Dark Transparent
Member
That's just the core story missions there's lots more than just that.
Bokracroc
Bokra, come out to pla-ay
Disappointing?
That's just over 2 straight days. And that's just Core missions, that's not random driving, chases, beatings, side-missions, multiplayer, etc.
OnyxVulpine
Member
Look at the time it takes to beat most other games, way less than 30 other than RPGS.
Shark_the_raptor
I'm in love with a pizza.
That's true. It took me a mere 8 hours to beat Halo3's Campaign on Normal.
I haven't beat GTA VI yet. I'm having too much fun crashing cars at the moment, and enjoying the graphics.
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
I thought the same thing, but it does take awhile to beat. And that doesn't include all the side missions and stuff. I beat the game but I'm still playing it because there's a good amount of stuff still left to do.
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
Although I do feel like this game isn't as big as San Andreas.. I mean, I was a little sad that the whole playground is pretty much just the city.. and you can't go out into other areas like you could in San Andreas. I think San Andreas was longer than 30 hours as well? I can't remember though.
OnyxVulpine
Member
Well lots of parts of SA were bland so they just fit more into a smaller map.
And it took longer cause it took longer to get around, no taxis with the skipping thing ^^
-Onyx
Kyoujin
SOCK GOES WHAR?
I found another furry reference in the game, haha. Not much, but there's a blog about some emo goth kid called "DarkSoulLock"..
www.soullock.blogsnobs.org in the game.
All it has is in his interests, he lists "furries" as his second interest. Haha.. None of the journal entries speak about furries though. xb There's a spoof of Craigslist where he bought a ferret off of and some other stupid stuff, that's about it. xb
www.soullock.blogsnobs.org in the game.
All it has is in his interests, he lists "furries" as his second interest. Haha.. None of the journal entries speak about furries though. xb There's a spoof of Craigslist where he bought a ferret off of and some other stupid stuff, that's about it. xb
Dark Transparent
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If you've meet the random stranger called Eddie, he has a page on Blogsnobs.org too: Eddielowfilthslayer.
I just found "Furries bored of doggie style" on www.our-own-reality.com which made me laugh.
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