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DarkoKavinsky

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Shooting firearms is fun. But you gotta do it responsibly. Accidents from the misuse of a firearm are usually fatal.
Or stairs, ladders, showers, cars, power tools.

If you’re an idiot with anything chances are it can and will hurt you, or if fate decides to give the finger to you.
 

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
I think we can relax; given the current makeup of the Supreme Court - I'd doubt it remain legal for long, anyway.
I for one am getting extremely *IRKED* (the most-polite word/expression I can come up with), at how many different ways the Courts/States/Cities/et al, invent ways to circumvent the 2nd, which clearly states: 'Shall not be infringed'.
The fact that so many are toting such laws/regulations, in the ignorant belief that ANY of it is going to stop a criminal or homicidal maniac (or mentally deranged), person, from committing crimes/murders, utterly astounds me.
I realize I'm getting too far into the 'Angst' portion of the OP, and don't wish to derail it.

My knife quip was just that- amusing (but I wouldn't put it past the fools-that-be, from going after those, next)...

;-)
 

Doulyboy

I turned myself into a raccoon Morty!!!!
Banned
Personally I have no idea why someone would want such a destructive device in their possession if you ask me.

Not to mention the chaos that they have recently been responsible for lately.
 

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
Personally I have no idea why someone would want such a destructive device in their possession if you ask me.

Not to mention the chaos that they have recently been responsible for lately.
May I ask you one question? (I'm gonna anyway, simply being polite.)
"Have you ever fired a gun/firearm before."
I mean, under instruction, with either a family member, friend, or qualified instructor at a range? Novice handling/discharge of a firearm is hardly a positive experience for anyone.

The reason I ask you that question? (if you care)
I've had many family members, and friends/co-workers say exactly the same thing, once they found out my enthusiasm for firearms. (No, I never displayed anything at any of my workplace offices/environments, so they didn't have it shoved in their faces there.)
Of all of them?
Not one left the range (or if outside (even better IMHO)), holding the same feelings.
Two of them acknowledged they wouldn't go out and buy a firearm for themselves. They understood and accepted the responsibility and potential life-changing effects such a decision could make in their lives.
I respect their feelings on the subject 100%.

It's one thing to support/defend the 2nd Amendment. Quite another to force it onto someone who doesn't wish to participate in it.

P.S.
Your comment-
"Not to mention the chaos that they have recently been responsible for lately."
According to the last/latest FBI reports?
Firearms in the hands of the law-abiding have prevented anywhere between 250,000 to 1.5 million crimes (per YEAR), simply by being wielded in self-defense/deterrence.
Firearms are not the problem.
Society's failing mores, are.
 

Doulyboy

I turned myself into a raccoon Morty!!!!
Banned
May I ask you one question? (I'm gonna anyway, simply being polite.)
"Have you ever fired a gun/firearm before."
I mean, under instruction, with either a family member, friend, or qualified instructor at a range? Novice handling/discharge of a firearm is hardly a positive experience for anyone.

The reason I ask you that question? (if you care)
I've had many family members, and friends/co-workers say exactly the same thing, once they found out my enthusiasm for firearms. (No, I never displayed anything at any of my workplace offices/environments, so they didn't have it shoved in their faces there.)
Of all of them?
Not one left the range (or if outside (even better IMHO)), holding the same feelings.
Two of them acknowledged they wouldn't go out and buy a firearm for themselves. They understood and accepted the responsibility and potential life-changing effects such a decision could make in their lives.
I respect their feelings on the subject 100%.

It's one thing to support/defend the 2nd Amendment. Quite another to force it onto someone who doesn't wish to participate in it.

P.S.
Your comment-
"Not to mention the chaos that they have recently been responsible for lately."
According to the last/latest FBI reports?
Firearms in the hands of the law-abiding have prevented anywhere between 250,000 to 1.5 million crimes (per YEAR), simply by being wielded in self-defense/deterrence.
Firearms are not the problem.
Society's failing mores, are.


Yes, but active mass shootings have increased in the past decade and imo I believe that is due to the ease and accessibility you have to firearms in your country.

No btw I have not fired a firearm, nor do I need too to know that such a device is destructive, as per the same way i don't need to detonate a nuclear weapon to know the same.
 

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
Yes, but active mass shootings have increased in the past decade and imo I believe that is due to the ease and accessibility you have to firearms in your country.

No btw I have not fired a firearm, nor do I need too to know that such a device is destructive, as per the same way i don't need to detonate a nuclear weapon to know the same.
Ya know, it's not like the movies or the slanted news would have you believe how easy it is to get a firearm. Reason? It's not easy at all with all the new rules imposed by our Gov't. You're going to have to be subjected to a background check and a waiting period, too. Nobody walks in/walks out with weapon in tow anymore.

Just a bit of info from a former military & LEO fur. YMMV.
 

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
Yes, but active mass shootings have increased in the past decade and imo I believe that is due to the ease and accessibility you have to firearms in your country.

No btw I have not fired a firearm, nor do I need too to know that such a device is destructive, as per the same way i don't need to detonate a nuclear weapon to know the same.
O.k., I appreciate and respect your perspective.
Lemme forward this as a counter-perspective?
Do you know where 90%+ of these mass-shootings happened?
Political/Agenda-driven 'Gun Free Zones'.

You're being grandiose and disingenuous by using the nuclear weapons quip. No citizen could (or should be able to!) afford a nuclear weapon, much less the knowledge needed to detonate one. That comment is used ad nausea by the 'Anti 2nd Amendment' crowd, and immediately reveals their self-imposed ignorance on the entire topic.

Firearms are not just 'destructive'. This is also another quip used.
Millions of firearm owners enjoy target shooting. Competitive shooting. Hunting.

Self Defense, when they don't even need to fire the weapon, as mere exposure ends any thoughts of further mischief/mayhem by the criminal, who scurries away in rightful fear for THEIR lives.

I'm done now.

Thanks for titillating the topic.
 

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
Ya know, it's not like the movies or the slanted news would have you believe how easy it is to get a firearm. Reason? It's not easy at all with all the new rules imposed by our Gov't. You're going to have to be subjected to a background check and a waiting period, too. Nobody walks in/walks out with weapon in tow anymore.

Just a bit of info from a former military & LEO fur. YMMV.

Actually, in many places (growing fewer by the day!), you can still enter a business selling firearms, do the background check, lay your money on the counter and walk out with your purchase. Exactly as it should be.
The extreme Far-Left/Anti 2nd Amendment States/Districts/Cities/et al, are blatantly violating our Bill of Rights, and every law-abiding Citizen harmed by a criminal should SUE them out of existence.
Govt. wants to play We, the People, shouldn't have our Right to bear arms?
Make the damned Govt. pay for all medical expenses 'The People' suffer at the hands of criminals. Make the Govt. pay the survivors of those killed by criminals, to make-up for the funeral/lost wages the life of their loved-one could have expected to enjoy.

I do realize no individual Citizen could possibly hope to fight the govt. in Court, and expect to win. Who the hell can afford those costs, on top of struggling to survive and make ends meet on everything else?

I don't believe for one second, the corrupt, morally-bankrupt, lying/treasonous/Socialist politicos/Justices/etc. are ignorant of that fact, either.
 

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
Actually, in many places (growing fewer by the day!), you can still enter a business selling firearms, do the background check, lay your money on the counter and walk out with your purchase. Exactly as it should be.
The extreme Far-Left/Anti 2nd Amendment States/Districts/Cities/et al, are blatantly violating our Bill of Rights, and every law-abiding Citizen harmed by a criminal should SUE them out of existence.
Govt. wants to play We, the People, shouldn't have our Right to bear arms?
Make the damned Govt. pay for all medical expenses 'The People' suffer at the hands of criminals. Make the Govt. pay the survivors of those killed by criminals, to make-up for the funeral/lost wages the life of their loved-one could have expected to enjoy.

I do realize no individual Citizen could possibly hope to fight the govt. in Court, and expect to win. Who the hell can afford those costs, on top of struggling to survive and make ends meet on everything else?

I don't believe for one second, the corrupt, morally-bankrupt, lying/treasonous/Socialist politicos/Justices/etc. are ignorant of that fact, either.
Actually, you should say there are a few states left that allow that. The thing is, that background check will be needed. I can remember a day that you could buy a rifle or shotgun in California, just fill out a form 4473 and show some Ident, good to go. What background check. Keep in mind, criminals don't need a "Universal Background Check." The UBC is just to hinder the lawful firearms owners.

Here in the Hoosier State, it is a "shall issue" state for CCW permits. Took me half a day and a few duckets to get mine. I was open carrying in Wally World one Wednesday afternoon (been to the range earlier) and this white haired lady, clearly thirty years my senior, stops me in the coffee aisle and says "Nice revolver you have there. Is that a Model 10 or a Model 13?" It's a customized S&W Model 10 Heavy Barrel, set up for PPC shooting, BTW. In the checkout lane, the manager walks up to me just to tell me they have a special going on .38spl 110 HBWC rounds. Yeah. Very much unlike California.

And, as an aside, it is "We The People", not We the elected f*cktards that fear the general populace that are armed. Vote them out, any official that favors gun control in any way, shape or form.
 

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
Actually, you should say there are a few states left that allow that. The thing is, that background check will be needed. I can remember a day that you could buy a rifle or shotgun in California, just fill out a form 4473 and show some Ident, good to go. What background check. Keep in mind, criminals don't need a "Universal Background Check." The UBC is just to hinder the lawful firearms owners.

Here in the Hoosier State, it is a "shall issue" state for CCW permits. Took me half a day and a few duckets to get mine. I was open carrying in Wally World one Wednesday afternoon (been to the range earlier) and this white haired lady, clearly thirty years my senior, stops me in the coffee aisle and says "Nice revolver you have there. Is that a Model 10 or a Model 13?" It's a customized S&W Model 10 Heavy Barrel, set up for PPC shooting, BTW. In the checkout lane, the manager walks up to me just to tell me they have a special going on .38spl 110 HBWC rounds. Yeah. Very much unlike California.

And, as an aside, it is "We The People", not We the elected f*cktards that fear the general populace that are armed. Vote them out, any official that favors gun control in any way, shape or form.

Oh, I hear ya!
Back when I bought my first rifle (in CA), no 'Form' was required. Because I was only 14 1/2, however? I had to have a parent with me.
I've no problem with the background check (though if you get put ON the fucking thing, and did nothing wrong? Utter HORSESHIT to get that 'Fixed'!)...
I've bought three firearms in the past four years (here in Oregon). Background check aside (maybe 10 minutes wait, while I enjoyed shopping for more supplies), and I was out the door with 'em.
I'm way past the point of realizing that any new 'Law' (regulation, policy, etc., etc..) put-down by the idiot politicians are in direct violation of the 2nd Amendment, and I will not comply.

Which is exactly as it should be.
 

MCtheBeardie

Queen of Laziness
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These are my only two personal firearms, the Ruger LC9s and Remington model 11-87. My dad has a dozen or so more firearms, but these are for my personal use. I love them both, I use the shotgun for hunting, and I practice with the LC9s regularly.
 
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MCtheBeardie

Queen of Laziness
View attachment 61815 These are some of mine. All legal with my states laws. Maybe being a ww2 nut has something to do with it?

Awesome! My dad has a few of those guns, himself. He's a military guy, so in our state, these are legal for him to have.

I don't remember the names of the models, though. I just know what they look like!
 

FunkerFox

Member
Awesome! My dad has a few of those guns, himself. He's a military guy, so in our state, these are legal for him to have.

I don't remember the names of the models, though. I just know what they look like!
Top to bottom is M1a1 Thompson, M1 carbine, m1897 trench gun, m1903a2 Springfield, M1 Garand and M1919
 

MCtheBeardie

Queen of Laziness
Top to bottom is M1a1 Thompson, M1 carbine, m1897 trench gun, m1903a2 Springfield, M1 Garand and M1919

Ah, then out of those models, my dad definitely owns the M1 Carbine and the M1 Garand. I know he's shown them to me before.

He may also have the M1897 Trench Gun, the action looks similar to one I've seen in one of his safes, too.
 

MCtheBeardie

Queen of Laziness
So all you dirty ammosexuals, what do you prefer:
Revolvers or automatics?
Oof, that’s a tough one for me...

Revolvers have less failures and are easier to clean when compared to autos and semi-autos, but autos and semi-autos have superior capacity compared to revolvers. Not to mention semi-autos and autos are far easier to reload.

Agh, my brain’s gonna explode, I can’t decide...
 

Izzy4895

Vulpine Maid
So all you dirty ammosexuals, what do you prefer:
Revolvers or automatics?

I prefer automatics (the Glock 19 I carry is small enough to conceal in most situations, yet is big enough to have 15+1 capacity).
 

Kellan Meig'h

Kilted Luthier
So all you dirty ammosexuals, what do you prefer:
Revolvers or automatics?
That's a no-brainer. DA revolver. No safeties to deal with, can be left with all holes filled, ready at a moment's notice.

And, if you needed over six shots, you are in a firefight! Time for the wife unit to back you up with the pump shotgun!
 

Telnac

Fundamentalist Heretic
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You can't beat the simple elegance of the AK-47, IMO. Simple to clean. Simple to operate. Fun as hell to shoot. Still the favorite gun in my collection.
 
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