Hacker in furaffinity???

[RTDragon]

Now we need to hear a good explanation since a lot of users were being lied to and a lot of trust lost.

 

[Volkodav]

The site news post was removed off of the website. Croc speculation would have to assume that it was posted by Zidonuke and then later removed by another site administration staff (Probably neer). A pep talk is probably happening as we speak. Croc assumptions state that Neer still wants Zidonuke to work for FA. But what do I know? I'm just a Croc.


Also, I guess the website's 6-8 day maintenance isn't happening as originally scheduled.

Yeah this won't be the end of it.

 

[Croconaw]

We'll most likely get an administration response/explanation in a week or two. That's how a Croc would handle this sort of deal. I would know this because I am a Croc.

 

[TheArchiver]

Lovely. Now, I wonder who Piche will pull from the Undernet to manage critical areas of the site next. And from what I understand, his "stepping down" was not a quiet one. I'd stay alert for a few days and see what happens as a...response.

 

[Croconaw]

Lovely. Now, I wonder who Piche will pull from the Undernet to manage critical areas of the site next. And from what I understand, his "stepping down" was not a quiet one. I'd stay alert for a few days and see what happens as a...response.

We've only just begun.


These fiascoes always last a few weeks.

 

[Pinky]

Aww I was just about to go back to F-list. Oh well, at least I don't have my real name and an actual picture of myself on there like a lot of people do.

 

[TheArchiver]

This man's lies are about as see through as an invisible gate with x-ray vision.

 

[Volkodav]

This man's lies are about as see through as an invisible gate with x-ray vision.

"He was not an admin"
He had @Administrator beside his name, that makes him an admin
Even if he were a coder, you still tacked on the admin powers, which made him an admin/coder.

Examples using the only two coders that have been coders on the site for years:

This implies that in order to get into the site coding, one needs to have admin powers. StarryKitten had admin powers - MAKING THEM AN ADMIN/CODER

 

[Zeitzbach]

Amusing how this kind of stuff is what bring people back for a week or so.

You would be correct in that many have a following on other sites. Though your assumption of a smooth transition would incorrect. The key thing to remember is that FA is the most popular, most relevant which is why many fear doing business elsewhere.

I thought it was because 90% of popufurs' gallery is prohibited on DA.

 

[TheArchiver]

I thought it was because 90% of popufurs' gallery is prohibited on DA.

DA would love for you to think that...

 

[Zeitzbach]

DA would love for you to think that...

With how some people I know got temp-ban for posting their badly drawn furry porno with fur covering a bunch of stuffs except for the tiny pointy dicky stabby.

Pretty much.

That and well, if you draw porn, you kind of killed the path to big companies so I can see why they stick to FA where it's a lot easier to get commissions.

 

[Gryphoneer]

That means we're all safe and stuff now, right guys?
Right?

Or it means he's back to being an informal part of the dev team.

 

[PheagleAdler]

Comment of the year.

Thanks? You know, think about it, wouldn't it more likely make you a good coder? Keep in mind I'm not talking about morality, I'm talking about quality. I don't even know how to hack and only a little coding (HTML, C, C++, Basic)

 

[Midnight_Gear]

I only use weayl and da. Yay for me! Though there's this forum...

 

[Freehaven]

So I can assume that we’re never going to get a proper statement from Dragoneer about this whole situation, right? He never seems to address these issues with the general FA userbase—and when he does, it’s always days or weeks after things have gone DEFCON 1 or on a place where not every FA user follows him (e.g. Twitter).

You’d think, given how bad FurAffinity PR tends to spread like wildfire amongst furries, that he’d want to address things like this in a timely and public fashion so panic doesn’t ensue.

Then again, maybe I’m just a dumbass who doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut.

 

[PheagleAdler]

So I can assume that we’re never going to get a proper statement from Dragoneer about this whole situation, right? He never seems to address these issues with the general FA userbase—and when he does, it’s always days or weeks after things have gone DEFCON 1 or on a place where not every FA user follows him (e.g. Twitter).

You’d think, given how bad FurAffinity PR tends to spread like wildfire amongst furries, that he’d want to address things like this in a timely and public fashion so panic doesn’t ensue.

Then again, maybe I’m just a dumbass who doesn’t know when to keep his mouth shut.

Sometimes the best way to address an angry crowd is to stay silent, because nothing you say will quell their anger.

 

[Gryphoneer]

You know, think about it, wouldn't it more likely make you a good coder?

Of course not. A good coder designs in spec, Einstein, and doesn't compromise a project's security paradigm by including backdoors. Even if he doesn't use them eventually, they constitute a vulnerability that can be exploited by a third-party hacker.

A good coder is a reliable coder. Not somebody whose subversion of projects is habitual.

 

[Freehaven]

Sometimes the best way to address an angry crowd is to stay silent, because nothing you say will quell their anger.

Yes, yes, the words you say to protect your reputation can do more harm than good and all that jazz. But I’m not convinced that Dragoneer can’t even pay lip service to the userbase and address this situation somewhere that the entire userbase can see it.

It’s not like this is the first time he’s had to deal with a PR debacle. Zaush, Yiffyleaks, the Furocity merger, the numerous attempts to remake/redesign/recode the site…all equally awful, and all left virtually unaddressed by ’Neer in a timely manner. But hey, he’s already fucked up so many times before—what’s one more monumental screw-up? It’s not like people are leaving en masse to Weasyl or Tumblr or Ello; he doesn’t have to care about how the userbase feels if it’s complaining while staying right where it is.

Knowing that Dragoneer doesn’t have to give a single fuck about the FA userbase because it’s going to keep on using FA anyway is the most depressing aspect of this whole debacle.

As soon as FA’s back to full functionality, I’m disabling my account. When Dragoneer can act older than the age of this site, I might think about re-enabling it.

 

[Volkodav]

Sometimes the best way to address an angry crowd is to stay silent, because nothing you say will quell their anger.

No.
Not when you're potentially putting private information at risk.
I don't believe the right thing for Dragoneer to do in this situation is to be quiet. I think what he needs to do is to apologize, get something fucking done on the site, for Christ's sakes those two coders have been on the site since before I joined, hire competent staff that isn't limited to a friend group, discipline rulebreakers instead of hiding their crimes under the rug, stop backing up criminals through private messages, take people seriously when they come to you for help, and make a promise to not fuck up again.
Dragoneer's promises have become useless words to the furry fandom now specifically because they've been promised so many times and broken. It's illogical to put trust in someone when they continuously break your trust. Dragoneer has made many stupid decisions on the website and I genuinely believe that the only way it could even be turned around a tiny bit is if he actually seriously puts a foot forward or if he sells the site to someone more readily interested in doing these things.

For god's sakes, I've been looking around at links regarding this whole thing and I've read that you can even have your acc slowed down and have the website(s) time out for you if you even dare criticise the website. Critism or critique is important for a website to grow, you can't act as if you have your userbase's best interests in mind when you don't take anything they say seriously and never make any motions to show then that you're actually listening.

The only reason why users are still holding onto their accounts there is because they either make the majority of their money there from commissions, or because they're apathetic to the whole thing.
A user should not feel so unsafe on your website because of your staff and your actions that the only reason they're staying is so that they can make enough money to pay rent and buy food.
Apathy is not the solution here and neither is staying silent or making false promises.

 

[Nanakisan]

tl:dr'ing all posts except Claytons post regarding starrykitty

Alright so if i understand correctly. We have someone on our Administrator team. Who has a proven background and i repeat this PROVEN BACKGROUND in coding. but because he apparently is some kind of malicious hacker/cracker idgaf etc etc. he's suddenly the target of ohmygosh another DRAGONEER IS SCAMMING US consipracy? Jesus h christ people calm your freaking tits/tentacles/pecs/bellies/what have you. This is almost as bad with what happened when the phoenix project was announced.

I personally do not give 2 flying fat fucks what is going on. What i care about is the fact something is being done at last. Instead of being happy, some people here just want to see a good thing die in a flaming fire pit of doom. It's utterly sickening is what it is. I still hold hope that somewhere we will see a new FA. A glorious update that will make the website perform so much better. But no we get the conspiracy theorists who point and shoot the freaking drama gun. For once can we just ignore what is going on in the background and be happy? ...oh wait what the hell am i saying. This community would rather consume a bottle of paint thinner then be happy.

/rant

 

[TheArchiver]

And I repeat, sweeping it under the rug as "drama" is what allows the mainsite's hideous "administration" to run rampant.
Thank you for your irrelevant fanboy damage control. It shall be dismissed.

 

[Freehaven]

Alright so if i understand correctly. We have someone on our Administrator team. Who has a proven background and i repeat this PROVEN BACKGROUND in coding. but because he apparently is some kind of malicious hacker/cracker idgaf etc etc. he's suddenly the target of ohmygosh another DRAGONEER IS SCAMMING US consipracy?

The person in question (who has supposedly stepped down of their own accord) has a history of malicious hacking that has put user information of several different services at risk for other hackers. Not only did this person leave in backdoors that either they or other hackers could access, they also forced one service (F-List) to essentially shut down for days to fix the problems caused by his malicious acts.

Dragoneer thinks that person is trustworthy enough to put in charge of coding the site—which, incidentally, would likely grant that person access to the Notes system, wherein he could build a backdoor that would allow him to read FA notes and cause a whole new Yiffyleaks scandal. (Not to mention possibly reporting furries’ PayPal accounts once he has their PayPal addresses.)

And somehow you don’t see any issue with this.

This is almost as bad with what happened when the phoenix project was announced.

You say that as if Dragoneer hasn’t made promises that he couldn’t (or wouldn’t) keep. This current project will be the…what, fourth time he’s promised a whole new FA?

I personally do not give 2 flying fat fucks what is going on.

Your antipathy is why FA never changes.

Instead of being happy, some people here just want to see a good thing die in a flaming fire pit of doom.

I don’t want to see FA die. I want to see it run by competent people who give a shit about the people using the site—and not just the über-popular people.

I still hold hope that somewhere we will see a new FA.

Don’t trust to hope, especially in regards to FA.

But no we get the conspiracy theorists who point and shoot the freaking drama gun. For once can we just ignore what is going on in the background and be happy?

Dragoneer put a person with a history of malicious hacking and backdoor programming in charge of coding FA.

And we’re all supposed to overlook that.

Because ‘drama’.

…excuse me I need to go take an aspirin and lie down, because your logic just gave me a headache. Or was it the twenty times I banged my head against the wall after reading your post? Either way, I need to rest my brain.

 

[Volkodav]

(Not to mention possibly reporting furries’ PayPal accounts once he has their PayPal addresses.)

Jesus, this is a really good point.
We've got users who fear leaving the site because it's their main source of income, and that site is what could get their PayPal reported and closed up.




@Nanakisan:
If "furry drama" is enough to make someone shrug off this scandal, what about the idea that malware could be put onto the site and spread that way? It's been done before a few times, what's to stop it from happening again, but worse?

 

[crashdoom]

If "furry drama" is enough to make someone shrug off this scandal, what about the idea that malware could be put onto the site and spread that way? It's been done before a few times, what's to stop it from happening again, but worse?

Admittedly, the chance of getting malware on FA is very minor regardless of who is working on it. However, the chance of you getting malware by going onto any site with Google Adverts, or Facebook or your e-mail is significantly higher. Ergo, you've a lot more to worry about regarding your privacy elsewhere than you do here.

 

[chesse20]

I just checked his steam account... 2 vac bans on record lmao