EmpressCiela
The Empress has Returned
None yet but Twitter may change that...
Connor J. Coyote
Well-Known Member
I apologize, but..... before this thread dies..... I'd like to make a little confession, on here, if I may..... (about my postings above)..... 
First off - I apologize that it got so heated (to anyone that it bothered); as I didn't think that it'd get that much attention..... But, in all honesty - (in a small way, I'm kinda glad that it did).... as it was a discussion that I think desperately needed to be had; and needed to be "thought about" - by many folks within this community.
But, (please note): my postings above weren't intended to inflame tensions on here, or to make any problems for anyone...... it was mostly to get some people to think about these things, (and perhaps re-examine some of their opinions). Maybe I was successful, and maybe I wasn't, in my bit of "devils advocate" postings, (above)...... but at least, I tried..... I tried to offer up an opposing view, (a view that many people hold, but that wan't being discussed)..... and I hope, maybe started a dialogue...... not about *me* per say...... but about the larger issues, that many people seem to be so concerned about.
These problems need not define us as a community, I think..... and we need not let them bother us so much.
First off - I apologize that it got so heated (to anyone that it bothered); as I didn't think that it'd get that much attention.....
But, in all honesty - (in a small way, I'm kinda glad that it did).... as it was a discussion that I think desperately needed to be had; and needed to be "thought about" - by many folks within this community.But, (please note): my postings above weren't intended to inflame tensions on here, or to make any problems for anyone...... it was mostly to get some people to think about these things, (and perhaps re-examine some of their opinions). Maybe I was successful, and maybe I wasn't, in my bit of "devils advocate" postings, (above)...... but at least, I tried..... I tried to offer up an opposing view, (a view that many people hold, but that wan't being discussed)..... and I hope, maybe started a dialogue...... not about *me* per say...... but about the larger issues, that many people seem to be so concerned about.
These problems need not define us as a community, I think..... and we need not let them bother us so much.
Sam Wamm
I'm a goat plushie
Trevorbluesquirrel
Well-Known Member
I guess I'm just lucky, I've never had 2 leave a hostile community......................................
I've had a few minor issues and arguments with some particular commenters and players, but just ignored them, or came back the next day after they were gone!
I've had a few minor issues and arguments with some particular commenters and players, but just ignored them, or came back the next day after they were gone!
Rimna
Well-known Monkey
Watch collecting communities;
Photography communities;
Guitar player communities and channels;
Gaming communities and channels;
Almost all furry communities.
Basically, any community that is based around things that people can have personal opinions and thoughts about. I have better things to do than to listen to or get dragged into arguments over the stupidest shit ever.
Photography communities;
Guitar player communities and channels;
Gaming communities and channels;
Almost all furry communities.
Basically, any community that is based around things that people can have personal opinions and thoughts about. I have better things to do than to listen to or get dragged into arguments over the stupidest shit ever.
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Fluxbender
Guest
I browse that forum all the time for juicy nerd rage drama, and you're right on the money about the troll posts. People there love to make a game out of 'how much can we crucify the OP of the thread?' It doesn't matter what happens, it's ALWAYS the OP's fault, and they ALWAYS need to 'git gud'.
Now onto the stories... Two tales of hostility for the price of one:
The Tamriel Rebuilt/Project Tamriel community:
For the Morrowind mod. It's not really the group that is the problem (although I DO think that they are a bit xenophobic in some ways), but there was this one idiot who got on my back because I was talking to another person about why there isn't any writer positions; I said hey why not 'world builder', I do that all the time, and there's still a lot of stuff to be done on a writing front here. Guy came in and told me that, world building can go die, that 'idea guys' like me don't deserve a spot for 'doing nothing' (writing is doing nothing now, apparently; sorry Stephen King, Edgar Allan Poe, et al, but you're do-nothing losers who got fame for silly ideas), and that (here's the best part) 'ideas kill projects'.
It was like… You ARE aware that your entire project is based off the IDEA FROM Bethesda, who are renowned for their WORLD BUILDING, right? I didn't even bother mentioning this to him, because anyone who would say something like that in that context is too dumb to understand. (And by the way, before he heehawed that nonsense, he said that they had tons of yet-to-be-implemented in-game books sitting unedited for months and years, because they had no writers editing them…) The same guy was CONSTANTLY arguing with others in the server (including project leads), even bullying them, over ideas, as if the only one who could make a 'worthy' contribution was him (we're talking like at least 60-70% of the fights involved him in a major way; outside of fights he loved making shitty comments to people calling them stupid). Will I ever go back? Maybe. I genuinely do like the project and want to see it completed someday, but this one person makes the entire experience poisonous.
World Anvil community:
This was one was just… let's just say that I have to watch my blood pressure closely while writing this. So, first week in, because I asked on the Discord if it was possible to use their website builder tool to make a site that looks 'old school' (simple designs, GIFs and stuff, so easy for someone new to coding like me to make), I was told by one of the volunteers that, "Yes, you can do that! You can make your site cursed." Uhh… excuse me? Cursed? I paid 70$ for this sub, lady, why the thinly-veiled hostility over what I want my site to look like? Same person later asked me 'why do I want my site to look like eye cancer' and told me to 'Google it' over me basically asking how to do the 'float' property with the custom Bbcode their site tool uses (all the references I found showed the HTML way to do it, not Bbcode). Like, yes, I can TOTALLY Google your UNIQUE BBCODE VARIANT THAT NO OTHER SITE USES.
Afterwards I was set upon by two more representatives who did nothing but essentially harass me over 'auto-play music' on my site. I had NO auto-play music on my website and NO intention of putting any auto-play music on there (I knew from my UT2004 mapping days that people find music like that annoying). I forgot that the 'code example' site I linked had music you could turn on, but I guess it can play for some people at random?? It had a toggle button so it was silent for me unless I pushed it. Still no reason to give me so much crap, in a frigging help/customer service channel no less… TOTAL 180 from the attitude I was shown before I paid (i.e. one that was quite honeyed in what I now recognize as a 'used car salesman' manner).
I'll summarize the rest of what I witnessed: same representatives went around and harassed others on their suggestions board and on Reddit anytime anyone dared mentioned music. Customer service often likes to argue with people instead of help them. Mods play bigtime favorites with people; there was a guy they banned simply because some higher-up didn't like him (and took like THREE MONTHS to answer his email asking why they banned him just to give some bogus non-reason). People being told to stop 'hogging' a channel on the Discord server when no one's been using it for days, then being called 'passive aggressive' for pointing that out. Several higher ups of the site have sock accounts they use to make it look like there are more people using the service than there actually is (I figured this because they all share the same writing styles, plus the interaction goes like this: 'new' person shows up with little to no posts and/or presence and starts doting on you out of the blue, gets you interested, then the next day they never reply to you again and have you blocked, or you simply never see them again; some of these socks were also used to harass people, and even to 'beg' me to not quit the site). The best one was how the unsub button doesn't work sometimes, and you get charged for another round behind your back. There was one incident where someone asked for a refund for that because it appeared to be a glitch. The founder called them a karen...They did get their money back, but only AFTER making the incident public on Reddit (where a goon even went over there to harass the guy, probably one of the same yahoos who harassed me over music). Unbelievable! I only stuck around because I wanted to get my money's worth. (PS. Don't be surprised if you start seeing some funny new accounts popping up saying that I am a liar and so-on-so-forth because I mentioned what goes on in this site.)
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QueenSekhmet
A Nightmare Dressed Like A Daydream
twitter (mostly because i got kicked off for telling a zoophile i'd kill him if we ever met. i fully stand by what i said),facebook (because it was pissing me off) and spells of magic (because it was super useless with shitty mods. also turns out that the joint is a pedo ring so i guess add that to the list of reasons not to go back).
Delv
Madliest Kat
Most videogame fandoms, my least favorite are Call of Duty, Metal Gear Rising, and Counter Strike
I love videogames, it's one of the things I am most passionate about, people suck though and make sure that certain jokes are overused and become annoying. And don't worry I still think Metal Gear Rising is a great game, just has an irritating community.
I love videogames, it's one of the things I am most passionate about, people suck though and make sure that certain jokes are overused and become annoying. And don't worry I still think Metal Gear Rising is a great game, just has an irritating community.
Connor J. Coyote
Well-Known Member
(I'd forgotten this thread, like so many others over the years).Ya know...... it never ceases to amaze me - how some people can criticize, whine, (and complain about) certain people, certain aspects, and certain interactions - be it either on these Forums, (and on other social media places) - and consistently lament about about how negative and toxic they all are..... and yet, (at the same time) - not realize how the very complaining and criticizing that they're currently doing *helps* to *amplify* that very same negativity and toxicity that they claim they dislike....
Complaining about things and about certain people is (in itself) a form toxicity.
Secondly - (as a guy who's been on here a long time)..... let me just say this: to those people out there that are doing all of this complaining: "if you're that unhappy, and that disenchanted dar-lings - then by all means, simply move on - (to greener pastures)".... which is what I always say to anyone in an unhappy situation.
Thirdly - the dislike and unwelcome sword that many seem to enjoy wielding - does indeed *cut both ways* - (meaning) : other users on these platforms may be thinking and saying *the exact same thing* about you, (and/or your friends), possibly..... eh?
No one is perfect.... and because we're all imperfect creatures - we may find ourselves stepping on a few toes once and a while..... which in turn, can place you on someone else's "dislike list" even though you may not actually know you're on it, yourself.
But - sorry..... three years later - I still stand by this, 100%.
In spite of the criticisms I got on here from some other users (I honeslty don't remember who they were) one can not look at this posting above though, and say - that there's not some elements of truth in some of the things I said on here..... (in spite of it being unpopular with some folks).
* (I'll add this to it also though): in that - there's going to be some toxicity in life, where ever one goes - both online and in the real world..... and thus - tailoring (and preparing) one's response to said toxicity that one finds - is what one needs to focus on..... and preferably with that - offering up solutions that a community can possibly utilize to address it, would benefit us all in the long run - instead of complaining all the time about "how wrong" things are going. So there. ☺
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SirRob
Well-Known Member
Ain't that the truth
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Recently there was a discord that I felt was hostile towards me, and so I left and haven't returned. It was an offshoot of a forum I use (a GameFAQs board for a mobile game I play) and so it continues to have relevance there, so I can't say that I'll never return to it, but it feels empowering to actively avoid it.
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JacobFloofWoof
Guest
It's hard to say, many communities are so fringe and aggressive.
Baron Tredegar
Master of Forgotten Lore
I pretty much quit looking at Star Wars fan communities.
Spatel
Well-Known Member
It's because people that spend thousands of dollars on headphones that sound like ass are looking for ways to cope. Dunking on other peoples' bad headphones is a classic coping mechanism. Talking to other people who have bought the same bad headphones and rationalizing with each other why they aren't actually overpriced garbage is another mechanism.
r/headphones discord was the first discord I ever left. I got instant full body death from reading that.
Baud
Oh boy it's a deer
I used to be very active on another kinda large furry platform, though in its dying days, where I met many people I considered my friends and I talked to them every day for quite some time. Turns out the place was full of liars and frankly quite bad people who managed to lie to me about their entire identity for months, manipulated me, and had their own private place where they would talk crap about every member they didn't like including my boyfriend at the time. If any one of the people responsible from that place is reading this, just know I still have trust issues thanks to you and I'm still very much angry at you.
Tetrachroma
"nEw UsEr"
Furry twitter. Even as a leftist, the kind of shit I see people saying there is fucking ridiculous. And aside from politics, twitter furries love to generate enormous amounts of drama by banding together and taking a grand stance against bad takes that nobody actually has. (Throughout the whole poodling drama, I failed to find even a single person who said poodling is wrong)
As this person brilliantly put it:
I guess you could say I dropped Twitter as a whole since I only ever really used it to connect with other furries. I'm just so glad I managed to break free from that hellhole. It's not good for anyone's mental health.
As this person brilliantly put it:
I guess you could say I dropped Twitter as a whole since I only ever really used it to connect with other furries. I'm just so glad I managed to break free from that hellhole. It's not good for anyone's mental health.
Troj
Your Friendly Neighborhood Dino Therapist
When furries caught wind of an anti-police brutality protest that was happening the same weekend as a local furcon, everybody on Twitter flipped the fuck out and got into this huge acrimonious debate over police brutality and police reform, how the con should or shouldn't have engaged with or warned people about the protest, and whether or not people have an ethical duty to participate in political action during their vacation or downtime, when the protest in question wasn't even going to impact the con itself due to being scheduled later in the evening.Tetrachroma said:
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KimberVaile
Well-Known Member
Twitter in general just seems toxic as fuck and I'm pretty sure part of the reason it's so volatile is due to the character limit. Makes nuanced conversations far more difficult, context is quickly lost for the sake of brevity, so on. I do tend to agree that Twitter in a lot of ways is the public square for the internet. And I've always felt it was largely a bad thing. When you're online, it's much easier to be vile to other people, and Twitter just tends to be the agreed venue for the loudest assholes to start pelting other people with shit. In fact those loud assholes seem to often double as demagogues. I've always felt I was doing myself a favor of using a forum over Twitter for the above reasons.
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Inferndragon
Dragon Doodler with a Tail Snake
Steam Forums. Each time i happen to go on it I tend to find people literally trying to make "Flame posts" just to farm "Jester Emotes" for Experience to level up their steam account. So people are purposely making terrible posts to make loads of people disagree with them.
Facebook. I used to use it all the time... Playing facebook games and just talking to people. Nothing on the site was useful. They were collecting data on me without any benefit to myself. In the end I terminated my account while i was in University. Felt so much happier after cutting it off.
Twitter I've just downloaded an addon that removes all the stories/promotion stuff at the side so all the toxicity is more or less gone as i get to follow people that I want to follow without it trying to recommend me to garbage. Since i used to get into flame wars with people and "engage" with them... when really I couldn't care less about it.
A few twitch communities that I used to hang around. Unfortunately, it got me onto a spending spree. Probably gave $5000+ in total as donations over the years. The guy i was donating to... Was an abusive asshat that would talk shit about the donators off stream. The only reason why he put up with people was because he was getting money from them.
Any MMO community. I'll usually play an MMO for a month then immediately afterwards lose interest and never come back to it.
Facebook. I used to use it all the time... Playing facebook games and just talking to people. Nothing on the site was useful. They were collecting data on me without any benefit to myself. In the end I terminated my account while i was in University. Felt so much happier after cutting it off.
Twitter I've just downloaded an addon that removes all the stories/promotion stuff at the side so all the toxicity is more or less gone as i get to follow people that I want to follow without it trying to recommend me to garbage. Since i used to get into flame wars with people and "engage" with them... when really I couldn't care less about it.
A few twitch communities that I used to hang around. Unfortunately, it got me onto a spending spree. Probably gave $5000+ in total as donations over the years. The guy i was donating to... Was an abusive asshat that would talk shit about the donators off stream. The only reason why he put up with people was because he was getting money from them.
Any MMO community. I'll usually play an MMO for a month then immediately afterwards lose interest and never come back to it.
Bigjackaal48
Well-Known Member
Yeah I got mauled for daring to post research papers that Autism is a Schizophrenia sub type by assholes who had no clue what there talking about. It also gets seriously worse when Sexuality/Gender is brought up, The most troll bind assholes come flooding out throw any -igot at you for shit you never said or even implied. As Troj has said It getting annoying seeing them threaten cons because they can't stop making drama & how they world doesn't revolve around them. They really can't handle any counterpoints/push back by other leftists without acting like angry 12 year old.
Bigjackaal48
Well-Known Member
Audio gear focused groups are pretty much weaponized cancer. /r/headphones from 2017 ~ now was nothing but neckbeards crying over the Etymotic ER4XR shitting over 98% of headphone market quality wise. Objective based groups are even worse for short fuse losers who lash out the moment you realise there actually quite dense, I got banned from Hydrogen audio realising that there AAC/Ogg >>> LAME MP3 relied on samples that favoured AAC/Vorbis. I've tried AAC/Vorbis at 192kbps with my own music noticed that AAC/Vorbis tripped up way more easily on Electronic/Metal while on MP3 the worst I got was mild pre echo.
But these days there really no point on Lossy audio with 256GB ~ 1TB MicroSD cards being a thing now.