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I have a question for experienced users (concerning commissions)

CasualBlue

Member
So... I started posting art in my Fur Affinity page a few months ago, and a few weeks ago, I opened up for commissions. I have a small following, only 90 users, but I imagined that at least 1 of them would be intersted in buying a slot.

My question is, why does nobody want to commission me? I have put a lot of tought into this, and my main theories are that:
a-My art is not appealing enough.
b-My following is not large enough.
c-People are interested, but I opened for commissions in a bad time, and I should just wait.
d-I'm over-thinking this, and I should just keep on doing what I do.

I will put a few examples of my stuff (censored, of course), so you guys can have a better idea of my style, and help you think on why I have made 0 sweet-bucks so far...
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Carrion

A congruence of light and sound
You might want to, um, edit out that first picture there. Not sure if it's quite SFW enough.

I don't take commissions, so i can't help you on that front. However, your issue may simply be one of exposure. If you want more people to commission your work i'd recommend advertising here on the forums and on any social media sites you have a presence on.

If you've already done that feel free to disregard what i've just said. What are your commission prices?
 

CasualBlue

Member
First of all, thank you for the heads up about the first pic...
I have not advertised in here, I'll try that soon.
My commissions prices are:

65$~75$ for full body
35$~45$ for half body
and 10$~20$ for sketch

Are my prices too high?
 

Carrion

A congruence of light and sound
First of all, thank you for the heads up about the first pic...
I have not advertised in here, I'll try that soon.
My commissions prices are:

65$~75$ for full body
35$~45$ for half body
and 10$~20$ for sketch

Are my prices too high?
You're an unknown in an oversaturated market, considering i know there are professional art students out there taking ref sheet commissions for as little as $30 i'd say yes.

I'd have to look through your gallery in full to gauge what i'd price them at but i don't know how helpful that may be.

Good news is you've got a definitive style, certainly a positive, and you're willing to draw porn, a massive benefit to you considering this is the fandom.

Are you on discord or telegram? I may be able to point you in the direction of servers that would allow you to grow a clientbase and offer better answers than the ones i can currently provide if you are.
 

Mayflower

Chocolate horse delicacy
I personally dislike unclear commission prices, and tend to avoid commissioning artists who have them. I prefer knowing how much a commission is going to cost, before I contact the artist. Especially if it's someone I haven't commissioned before. I have no idea if it'll actually help you, but I'd advice you to be very clear about which things would increase the cost of a commission. It could be something like wings, weapons, armor or very detailed tattoos or fur patterns.
 

CasualBlue

Member
You're an unknown in an oversaturated market, considering i know there are professional art students out there taking ref sheet commissions for as little as $30 i'd say yes.

I'd have to look through your gallery in full to gauge what i'd price them at but i don't know how helpful that may be.

Good news is you've got a definitive style, certainly a positive, and you're willing to draw porn, a massive benefit to you considering this is the fandom.

Are you on discord or telegram? I may be able to point you in the direction of servers that would allow you to grow a clientbase and offer better answers than the ones i can currently provide if you are.
Sorry for the late response.
If you can tell me how much you'd price it, it would be much appreciated. Here's my gallery: https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/bluesnesscasual
And, yes, I do have Discord. You can link the servers if you want to.
Thanks for the insight.
 

CasualBlue

Member
I personally dislike unclear commission prices, and tend to avoid commissioning artists who have them. I prefer knowing how much a commission is going to cost, before I contact the artist. Especially if it's someone I haven't commissioned before. I have no idea if it'll actually help you, but I'd advice you to be very clear about which things would increase the cost of a commission. It could be something like wings, weapons, armor or very detailed tattoos or fur patterns.
Thanks for the insight. I take it you usually buy commissions? If that's the case, what are the prices that you usually get charged? And what do you find the most important in the art itself?
 

Mayflower

Chocolate horse delicacy
Thanks for the insight. I take it you usually buy commissions? If that's the case, what are the prices that you usually get charged? And what do you find the most important in the art itself?
Your prices are in the range that I'm normally spending. However, you are an unknown artist with a relatively small gallery. It might be a lot of money to ask for, from someone who would find it difficult to judge if you'd be the right person to draw their fursona/character.

I like to see examples of many different species, so it's easier for me to know if an artist can draw my fursona in a way that I like. I usually look for how artists draw facial expressions, how they draw anatomy/positions, and what their color and shading technique looks like.
 

Filter

ɹǝʇlᴉℲ
I've been on FA since 2006, and have never tried to buy or sell commissions through the site. Back in the day, some of us just liked to draw furries, share our art with each other. Maybe improving our craft along the way. Non-artists got to watch, of course, and would sometimes interact with the artists through comments and whatnot. It was all good. We were brought together through because we thought talking animal people were kinda neat. Sure, commission were a thing, but not like today. They mostly happened at cons, someone might get a gig doing pencils or ink for a comic book, or maybe they'd produce and sell their own comics. Others sold CDs of their work. That sort of thing.

Nowadays, we get lots of non-furry artists who see the fandom and see dollar signs. They swoop in to make a sale, and that's about it. Not all, of course, but it's understandable that some do. I don't fault them. If you can make a living off it, that's great, but there are still many who aren't in it to buy or sell.

Be thankful for the watchers you get. To dismiss them because they're not buying slots seems short-sighted to me. Then again, maybe I'm just getting old. lol
 

CasualBlue

Member
I've been on FA since 2006, and have never tried to buy or sell commissions through the site. Back in the day, some of us just liked to draw furries, share our art with each other. Maybe improving our craft along the way. Non-artists got to watch, of course, and would sometimes interact with the artists through comments and whatnot. It was all good. We were brought together through because we thought talking animal people were kinda neat. Sure, commission were a thing, but not like today. They mostly happened at cons, someone might get a gig doing pencils or ink for a comic book, or maybe they'd produce and sell their own comics. Others sold CDs of their work. That sort of thing.

Nowadays, we get lots of non-furry artists who see the fandom and see dollar signs. They swoop in to make a sale, and that's about it. Not all, of course, but it's understandable that some do. I don't fault them. If you can make a living off it, that's great, but there are still many who aren't in it to buy or sell.

Be thankful for the watchers you get. To dismiss them because they're not buying slots seems short-sighted to me. Then again, maybe I'm just getting old. lol
I'm not dismissing my watchers for not buying slots, far from it. I barely mention them here because they are irrelevant to the questions themselves. I have talked to a few of them, and I have even worked with them for fun, completely for free.
I don't see people as dollar signs, but I still need the money. I am really young and I don't have a job irl. My country (Brazil) is currently facing economical issues, and finding a job of any type is pretty much impossible.
 

SLCMedia

Business Consulting for Fandom Artists
Your art's good, IMO, and you have a distinctive style, so you have both of those going for you. And your prices are about right, though that's less easy to tell at a glance without knowing your process and expenses.

What I'd recommend, in addition to continuing to be active with your watchers and other artists to build up your reputation and following, is to make a neat slideshow GIF out of some of your art and buy a small ad space on FA for a month and see how that helps you. I can show you the numbers our ad brought in last month if you want. It's helped my company get quite a few potential clients in the space of that month. And if you go that route, you also want to make sure your commission info and your terms of service are front-and-center so people don't have to look around for them. Probably make use of the Commission Info section of your FA profile for good measure, in addition to your commission price list posts in your gallery and journal.

The good news is that if you manage to sell one half-body slot in the space of a month, the ad will have more than paid for itself.
 

DarkFireDragon

New Member
So... I started posting art in my Fur Affinity page a few months ago, and a few weeks ago, I opened up for commissions. I have a small following, only 90 users, but I imagined that at least 1 of them would be intersted in buying a slot.

My question is, why does nobody want to commission me? I have put a lot of tought into this, and my main theories are that:
a-My art is not appealing enough.
b-My following is not large enough.
c-People are interested, but I opened for commissions in a bad time, and I should just wait.
d-I'm over-thinking this, and I should just keep on doing what I do.

I will put a few examples of my stuff (censored, of course), so you guys can have a better idea of my style, and help you think on why I have made 0 sweet-bucks so far...
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Dont Worry. After 5 Months of trying to get art i can say its as hard for clients to find an artist with an open slot as for them to find clients.
 

Carrion

A congruence of light and sound
Sorry for the late response.
If you can tell me how much you'd price it, it would be much appreciated. Here's my gallery: https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/bluesnesscasual
And, yes, I do have Discord. You can link the servers if you want to.
Thanks for the insight.
Apologies for my own. I'll respond to this message properly in PMs, as that seems more appropriate.

I won't be able to do so for a little while however, as life is keeping me rather busy and i simply don't have the time to give you an adequate response atm.
 

CasualBlue

Member
Apologies for my own. I'll respond to this message properly in PMs, as that seems more appropriate.

I won't be able to do so for a little while however, as life is keeping me rather busy and i simply don't have the time to give you an adequate response atm.
Thank you. And don't worry, I don't mind waiting.
 

CasualBlue

Member
Dont Worry. After 5 Months of trying to get art i can say its as hard for clients to find an artist with an open slot as for them to find clients.
Thak you for your insight. I take it you take commissions? If so, do you mind telling me what do you look for in a commission, and what is the usual price range that you get commissions for?
 

CasualBlue

Member
Your art's good, IMO, and you have a distinctive style, so you have both of those going for you. And your prices are about right, though that's less easy to tell at a glance without knowing your process and expenses.

What I'd recommend, in addition to continuing to be active with your watchers and other artists to build up your reputation and following, is to make a neat slideshow GIF out of some of your art and buy a small ad space on FA for a month and see how that helps you. I can show you the numbers our ad brought in last month if you want. It's helped my company get quite a few potential clients in the space of that month. And if you go that route, you also want to make sure your commission info and your terms of service are front-and-center so people don't have to look around for them. Probably make use of the Commission Info section of your FA profile for good measure, in addition to your commission price list posts in your gallery and journal.

The good news is that if you manage to sell one half-body slot in the space of a month, the ad will have more than paid for itself.
Thank you for your kind compliments. This is extremely interesting. You mentioned advertising of FA, how efficient is it?
 
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SLCMedia

Business Consulting for Fandom Artists
Thank you for your kind complements. This is extremely interesting. You mentioned advertising of FA, how efficient is it?
I'd say it's quite efficient.

We bought a 300x90 ad space back in June at the rate of $25 for one month. From mid-June to mid-July, our ad was seen over 3.5 million times and clicked 2,390 times, which means people seeing our services (Our ad pointed to our offer for pricing strategy consulting), and from there, often favoriting and adding our FA profile to their watchlist. And considering that stretch of time includes that one big outage FA had for a couple days, you stand a chance at doing even better than that if your ad is compelling enough.
 

Render

If you can lick it, it's probably safe
Banned
It might be a lot of money to ask for, from someone who would find it difficult to judge if you'd be the right person to draw their fursona/character.
This.

I like the style you've shown and would be interested in a commission as I just had one fall through. The problem is, I'm not sure how you'd handle my sona as its not like any of the given examples and $35-45 from another artist might be a full body.

That's not to say the quality of your art isn't worth the prices you're asking, it appears that it is, but if you are asking for commissions it's a competitive market.

My advice would be to try and match the market, under sell yourself a little bit and build a nice diverse profile as well as a bunch of happy customers showing off your work. You might lose a few bucks on each piece but if people say 'dam that's an amazing picture, who did it?' and 'well crap I can afford that, what's his FA?' you'll come out ahead.
 

CasualBlue

Member
This.

I like the style you've shown and would be interested in a commission as I just had one fall through. The problem is, I'm not sure how you'd handle my sona as its not like any of the given examples and $35-45 from another artist might be a full body.

That's not to say the quality of your art isn't worth the prices you're asking, it appears that it is, but if you are asking for commissions it's a competitive market.

My advice would be to try and match the market, under sell yourself a little bit and build a nice diverse profile as well as a bunch of happy customers showing off your work. You might lose a few bucks on each piece but if people say 'dam that's an amazing picture, who did it?' and 'well crap I can afford that, what's his FA?' you'll come out ahead.
Wow. This is... flattering. I have been looking at prices and like, calculating how much I'd need to make to be confortable for a little while.
I have not yet decided what price range I'm going to ask for my commissions in the upcoming days, but I'm open to negotiating a price. So, if you actually want to commission me, my dm's are open.
As for the sona part, I don't have many posts on my FA yet (I haven't tought of any bird or scaly characters that I would be into drawing, seeing as most of what I draw is fanart), but I have drawn different species before, and I'm confortable with drawing the aformentioned species.
But even if you don't want to commission me, thank you anyway. Responses, and compliments, are very much apreciated.
 
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