I vote NO religious debates

[Get-dancing]

I'm serious.

All they are good for is a sensless beating of the dead horse, and gets everyone hot and bothered. I for one am very offended when people mock my religion.

This would include:
-No athiests ripping the shit out of Christians.
-No Christians ripping the shit out of Muslims (OMG racist! lol).
-No religions ripping the shit out of other religions in general.
-No Ad hominems about peoples religious beliefs in debates ie "Pfft! You're a religious nut? No wonder you opose gay marriage then."
-No WBC discusions.
-No blatant taking the piss out of peoples gods, prophets, holidays, ect.
-No pseudo-scripture readings.
...

Afterall barely any other forums permit them. Why not discuss nice things? Y'know? Like shoes, shopping, cookies, software, music, comedians, actors, cars, bikes, women, soccor, men, corrupt WW2 leaders, yeah nice things.

 

[Gavrill]

Ha! Your logic fails, I am Buddhist! Therefore it is impossible for me to get "hot and bothered"!

In all seriousness, it's good for a few lulz.

 

[Monak]

Religion has no place in the modern world , that is why we do it. The dark ages set us back a good 800 years in our developement , and to this day religious beliefs are still being forced down our throats , and used against science.

 

[Skittle]

I'm a recently converted Christian with some Mormon views (especially when it comes to Heaven) and it annoys me when people rip shit about other people's religions and try to shove them down people's throats. We all believe and hope we have the right religion but the truth is NO ONE KNOWS. So instead of trying to push your god why not just accept their religion incase theirs is the right one? Don't want to piss their god off so you go to a rather nasty place, no? I honestly don't understand why people just can't get along in this world. We all share one thing, we believe in something even if it is nothing at all. It is all beliefs, not written law, not proven fact, not proven science when it comes to religion. I will get angry at people who tell me I am dumb for becoming a Christian and telling me I am wrong. I don't tell you that you are wrong for believing what you do.

I honestly hate people who shove ANY belief system down anyone's throat. It is what you BELIEVE which the defintion of believing is a vague idea in which some confidence is placed. Therefore, it is not proven fact. It is not anything that you can really shove down someone's throat. It really annoys me.

 

[Azure]

PredictionCertainty. This will turn into another standard religion thread, with atheists saying PROVE GOD EXISTS, and the Xtians screaming, PROVE HE DOESN'T. Which he doesn't, IMO, at least, not the vengeful little shite that is the God of the Bible, or any earthly god. If there is some sort of deity, in any twisted or roundabout sense, it probably has the common fucking sense to remain unseen and unknown, and is likely apathetic to things like buttsex, or working on the Sabbath, or any of that other shit.

 

[Blondi]

Well... I am a roman catholic. Here in my current "home-land" people are mostly finnish lutheran. I dont make such mess about it. I go to church there, because, I BELIEVE IN GOD AND ITS MY WAY HOW AM I GOING TO PRAY! I accept every single religion. I have been in muslim mosques, orthodox monasteries... Everyone has his own choice. I dont judge people by religion, I look always in their hearts. My friends are always telling me that I should more think my head then heart. I dont think like that. I have always trusted my heart, and it never caused me trouble.

So... To end this. I just want to say one german quote "Frei zu leben!" (Free to live!).

 

[Tycho]

PredictionCertainty. This will turn into another standard religion thread, with atheists saying PROVE GOD EXISTS, and the Xtians screaming, PROVE HE DOESN'T.

I'm counting on it. G-D isn't good for much, but he can start up a fun little shitstorm sometimes. The "quality" of said shitstorm is determined by how many posts it takes to get locked.

Also: LOL, G-D is a Christian. <--mocking his religion

 

[Talvi]

*scribbes down usernames of people to avoid, under category "delusional"*

 

[Skittle]

*scribbes down usernames of people to avoid, under category "delusional"*

Why are we delusional? Cause we believe in God or another deity? What about people who believe in ghosts and the like? The Unseen? It's really sad you consider people with a religion to be delusional.

 

[coffinberry]

Will you stop with the Nazi threads?

 

[Gavrill]

I have no problem with Christians as long as they remember to keep church and state separate. They can be giant douchebags sometimes, but occasionally you get one that says, "You know..this is a free country! Other people deserve to be free!"

And then I glomp them and happily accept them into my little circle.

 

[Azure]

Why are we delusional? Cause we believe in God or another deity?

Stop answering your own questions.

I have no problem with Christians as long as they remember to keep church and state separate. They can be giant douchebags sometimes, but occasionally you get one that says, "You know..this is a free country! Other people deserve to be free!"

And then I glomp them and happily accept them into my little circle.

I've only know one, and he is my very dearest friend. They are a rare commodity, Christians who don't push or shove their bullshit down the throats of others.

 

[Frasque]

I'm serious.

All they are good for is a sensless beating of the dead horse, and gets everyone hot and bothered. I for one am very offended when people mock my religion.

This would include:
-No athiests ripping the shit out of Christians.
-No Christians ripping the shit out of Muslims (OMG racist! lol).
-No religions ripping the shit out of other religions in general.
-No Ad hominems about peoples religious beliefs in debates ie "Pfft! You're a religious nut? No wonder you opose gay marriage then."
-No WBC discusions.
-No blatant taking the piss out of peoples gods, prophets, holidays, ect.
-No pseudo-scripture readings.
...

Afterall barely any other forums permit them. Why not discuss nice things? Y'know? Like shoes, shopping, cookies, software, music, comedians, actors, cars, bikes, women, soccor, men, corrupt WW2 leaders, yeah nice things.

I notice your list doesn't include "No Christians pushing their batshit arrogant delusions on atheists and agnostics". Typical fundie nutjob, you only get worked up about religious debates when you know you're losing.

 

[Skittle]

Stop answering your own questions.



I've only know one, and he is my very dearest friend. They are a rare commodity, Christians who don't push or shove their bullshit down the throats of others.

I don't shove my beliefs down others throats. Most of my friends are atheist and would probably attack me for becoming Christian. And that is really quite rude, just so ya know. Do you consider that Christian friend delusional because of their beliefs?

 

[C. Lupus]

Don't mind Christians, even though I doubt that religion. I was a Christian but turned later into an athiest. But that's because I don't know what to believe in any more.
So I'l just follow the the yin and yang principles.

 

[Takun]

I'd be fine with that if every time a person finds out I'm atheist they wouldn't act like I have the plague or something.

 

[Wreth]

Agnostic ftw!

 

[Gnome]

i like religions debates, when the debating parties arnt dicks.

i approve debates for understanding of the subject and ones self
i DO NOT approve debated for "im right-er than you are" shit

EDiT:
yeah, so i guess that ruled out all religious debated on the internet lol.

 

[makmakmob]

I'd appreciate a decent debate if we could stop flogging the few dead horses we seem to have lying around.

"Religion is primitive"
"prove god exists"
"lol religion sux because they don't like me sexing other men in the butt"

I mean, maybe that last one is a US thing, but I'm yet to meet an English Christian who has an actual disapproval of homosexuality. If anything, the devout ones are more accepting than the atheists and the less devout round here.

 

[Gavrill]

Fred Phelps, my grandparents, and my state all hate gays. Deep South sucks.

 

[makmakmob]

Fred Phelps, my grandparents, and my state all hate gays. Deep South sucks.

Wow. Unlucky. And who the crap is Fred Phelps?
Most of the Christians I know are baptists. Dunno if that changes anything.

 

[Grand Hatter]

Your religion is not immune to discussion. If it were, there would have been no enlightenment age; indeed, we'd still be enjoying witch burnings and the like.

You are entitled to your belief, to the same extent as others are entitled to their's.

To be honest, religion is considered by too many to be a 'touchy subject' and that's why it gets away with so damn much. If we had more people discussing it and fewer saying 'I don't want to talk about it because it offends little old me' then perhaps woman could make their own choices regarding abortion, people could choose to die with dignity, and homosexuals could be upgraded from second class citizens.

I'm going to enjoy the freedom and open-mindedness of these forums (to whatever extent I can), and I will respect your choices, but I'll be damned (very much so) before I let you take my right to discuss it openly and honestly.

 

[Trpdwarf]

Do I sense butt-hurtness because the last time you tried to argue about religion you had several people show up who knew more about it than you do?

That said, there will be no "No Atheists ripping the shit out of Christians" unless there is also a clause where "No Christians and or other religious groups trying to force their ideals and morals upon other people, either openly, secretly, subtly, and or underhandedly".

It goes both ways.

I am sorry but no matter what people will always debate about religion and there is nothing you can do about it. Oh, and you don't have the right to not be offended, Dancing. So what if you get offended when people mock your religion? I get offended when people claim to be religious and don't know anything about their religion.

I get offended by religious people who arrogantly discard thousands of years of history, in an attempt to legitimize what ever it is they are trying to claim. I get offended by people trying to dress up Creationism or ID in a lab-coat to try to pass it off as science. Do you know what I don't do though? I don't turn around and demand nobody say anything about certain stuff so I "Won't be offended". I know better, and you should too.

 

[Trpdwarf]

Wow. Unlucky. And who the crap is Fred Phelps?
Most of the Christians I know are baptists. Dunno if that changes anything.

Go to http://www.godhatesfags.com/ and you will get a feel for what kind of bullshit Fred Phelps and his group are all about. Also you can go to http://www.godhatesamerica.com/, and http://www.godhatessweden.com/ if the sites are still up.

Those are all run by Fred Phelps, and the Westboro Baptist Church.

EDIT: Or for a more direct explanation, Fred Phelps is a man who used to be a heavy alcoholic....and became a pastor and founded his own church called the Westboro Baptist Church. He, his daughter Shirly-Phelps Roper, and his entire family and small church are huge zealots who hate gays, think that the war in Iraq and deaths of soldier are "Gods way of punishing America for being tolerant towards gays and lesbians", and they are known to picket at the funerals of dead soldiers. They also hate America even though they live here and Shirly Phelp's brood are all (or most of them) lawyers.

You can see youtube vidoes of their acts here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3PyoUPcobA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDTCgqYK1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8cN2pB3MCE

The third one is a must watch.

 

[AuraTwilight]

Get-Dancing only votes this because he always loses, lawl.