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If you lead the country...

lupinealchemist

Hamburger time.
In order to make these laws, you would have to obliterate the preexisting government that would most likely veto your plans. To fully control the nation you would have to resort to a dictatorship, although it could be possible to be benevolent when doing so. Nonetheless, you will never make everyone happy no matter what kind of ruler you are.

I would try to be a tough but fair ruler who also spills the blood of violent criminals, drug dealers and corrupt authority personnel.
 

Atrak

Psychological Egoist.
In order to make these laws, you would have to obliterate the preexisting government that would most likely veto your plans. To fully control the nation you would have to resort to a dictatorship, although it could be possible to be benevolent when doing so. Nonetheless, you will never make everyone happy no matter what kind of ruler you are.

I would try to be a tough but fair ruler who also spills the blood of violent criminals, drug dealers and corrupt authority personnel.

Someone with views similar to my own. Similar, but not exactly the same.
 

Aleu

Deuces
In order to make these laws, you would have to obliterate the preexisting government that would most likely veto your plans. To fully control the nation you would have to resort to a dictatorship, although it could be possible to be benevolent when doing so. Nonetheless, you will never make everyone happy no matter what kind of ruler you are.

I would try to be a tough but fair ruler who also spills the blood of violent criminals, drug dealers and corrupt authority personnel.
Which is why I know I'll never make it because of how the government is set up.
 

Torrijos-sama

The Artist Formerly Known as Jesusfish
What do you define as "superfluous" safety regulations? I'm assuming you don't regard all safety regulations as "superfluous".

If we need safety regulations for things that should be common sense, then something is wrong with my country. I intend to repeal them so that people become self-regulating (if they haven't lost the ability to control themselves, of course).


Nice idea - in theory. However, in practice there's only a certain amount of time in a day that anyone can reasonably be expected to work - which, in my opinion, justifies the existence of a minimum wage to ensure that a person is able to make at least some kind of basic living without being stuck in hand-to-mouth poverty.

I want you to define "basic living". In the United States, the average annual income for persons earning minimum wage (whom are also working anywhere from 40-48 hours a week) is about $15,080 USD. The International Monetary Fund in 2010 states that the GDP (nominal) per capita... for the world... is about $8,985 USD.

The United States still pretty much is "the land of plenty", and we have relatively low costs of living. Most employers tend to pay around $5 an hour, which is $2.25 lower than the federal minimum wage (I know they were going to hike it soon, but i'm not sure if they have or not yet). And alot of people seem to get around on that just fine.

Let us see: $5 an hour. 8 hours a day.
Income for a single workday= $40.
$40*5=$200= Income for an average, 40 hour work-week.
$400= biweekly salary. $800= monthly salary.

$800*12= $9,600. That's about $615 more per year than what the average GDP per capita for the world would be. It would be worth a whole lot more if you didn't have to pay soul-crushing taxes, and didn't have to pay inexorbitant fees for insurance that the state forces you to get.

Well, it seems to work for the Swiss :)

Well, a Swiss system with a Swedish "neutrality guarantee". I want a big guarantee, though.
 
I'll let everything stay as it is. My country is near mediocre, but it's standing still. Until I actually obrain the lead, I won't change a thing but choose my leader.

I don't understand in the current politics that much, and freely allowing random rules to rise will be bad. I must gain a new perspective until then.
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless
If we need safety regulations for things that should be common sense, then something is wrong with my country. I intend to repeal them so that people become self-regulating (if they haven't lost the ability to control themselves, of course).

Except that as far as some businesses are concerned, "common sense" is hiring workers at cheap-jack sub-minimum wage and simply replacing anyone who gets injured by the equipment it's "too expensive" to make safe. 'Course, the person who loses their hand / leg / other body appendage in an easily-preventable industrial accident suffers, but hey - can't make an omelette without breaking eggs y'know...

... unless it happens to you, of course. You could try and sue, but if there aren't any safety regulations for things that are "common sense" how would you make a case, given that in any event you'd still be forced to fork out for lawyers and wait potentially decades for compensation? (Or are you saying that accident compensation is another thing the US "feather-beds" their workers with, and if you get injured through an employer's negligence it should be a case of "tough titties"?)

I want you to define "basic living". In the United States, the average annual income for persons earning minimum wage (whom are also working anywhere from 40-48 hours a week) is about $15,080 USD. The International Monetary Fund in 2010 states that the GDP (nominal) per capita... for the world... is about $8,985 USD.
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Let us see: $5 an hour. 8 hours a day.
Income for a single workday= $40.
$40*5=$200= Income for an average, 40 hour work-week.
$400= biweekly salary. $800= monthly salary.

$800*12= $9,600. That's about $615 more per year than what the average GDP per capita for the world would be.

Except that most of the people who are earning the pittance that brings down the average GDP per capita (which isn't entirely made up of wages, BTW)... don't live in the US with the level of living expenses that Americans have to fork out for.

So it's a rather disingenuous argument to claim that because the average minimum wage in the US is higher than the average GDP per capita (which has what relationship to wages, exactly? Why aren't you comparing minimum wages across the board?) there's no need for a minimum wage.

Minimum wage applies to where the person concerned is living, not an international average.
 
I would inplement compulsory military service like in Europe, And like the Swiss issue Assault rifles to go home with each citizen soldier.
 

CannonFodder

Resistance is futile! If 0 ohm
I would inplement compulsory military service like in Europe, And like the Swiss issue Assault rifles to go home with each citizen soldier.
It would bankrupt us.


Oh forgot something else, all people wanting a gun would have to pass a psychological evaluation first.
 

dinosaurdammit

White Devil
Everyone would have to have a garden and raise some of their own food as well as contribute to community projects. The country would help the citizens that helped it.

I would make asspats against the law and have an annual "Hunt the Furries"- it would be my national holiday- like Easter eggs but with furries being gunned down my assault rifles.
 

Roxichu

And now ladies and gentlemen..
Wow, so many overachievers and glassy-eyed idealists here.

If I lead the country (assuming as a total despot, with none of those constitutional checks and balances) I would just give myself a billion-dollar salary and then do nothing but spend all day playing video games, cruising around in Air Force One and smoking legalized pot with all the cool world leaders (Putin, Kim Jong Il, Gaddafi et cetera, et cetera).

Yeah, I'd be a shitty, yet somehow still awesome ruler.
 

Proeliator

Generically Unique
It would bankrupt us. REST OF QUOTE.

Only if your factories/production isn't geared towards that sort of thing. The more you make of something, the cheaper it is to produce, and distribute. That's why every poor terrorist can get an AK: they're everywhere, and thousands (if not more) are produced each day.

But then again, since when do governments care about a balanced budget?
 

CannonFodder

Resistance is futile! If 0 ohm
But then again, since when do governments care about a balanced budget?
Well the international market could no longer recognize the currency, thus devolving the country so far in debt that a christian network would go, "Hi I'm here in poverty stricken america, many of these children go without food for days cause of their country's economic collapse. For only 50 cents a day you could feed children such as andy, or jane. call now at 1-8-amrca-r-dmb"
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
I don't have a comprehensive list kept anywhere, but the big ones off the top of my head:

EXPANSION OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS
1) Enact single-payer UHC that covers everyone. All areas of reproductive health are covered. Paying for private practice care out-of-pocket is permitted.
2) Eliminate qualification barriers to welfare programs, benefits now only reduce relative to your regular income, if any.
3) Flat amount EBT benefits (plus additional per dependent) are given to everyone, but can only be spent on wholesome food (no soda/twinkies/chips etc.).
4) Raise minimum wage to $9/hr.

EDUCATION
1) Repeal NCLB.
2) Start federal funding assistance for low-performing schools.
3) Institute merit pay for teachers
4) Start holding kids back again. If they fail the grade, they must go to summer school, if they don't make up the grade in summer school, they start over in the new semester, or go to a remedial class.

CIVIL RIGHTS
1) Sexual orientation is added to all existing anti-discrimination laws.
2) End federal recognition of marriage. All existing marriages are converted to civil unions. Couples are free to dictate the terms of their own union, there is no longer a one-size-fits-all approach to families.
3) Repeal the PATRIOT act.
4) Amend the Constitution granting citizens an explicit right to privacy.
5) One-time amnesty for illegal immigrants, provided they register as citizens within a few months. They are the symptom of a problem, not a cause. Streamline the immigration process, then reinstate the rules on illegal immigration.

JUSTICE SYSTEM
1) Move to a system of rehabilitation. Criminals serve comparatively much lighter minimum sentences and are set free when they are judged to be unlikely to reoffend. Conversely, violent criminals judged very likely to reoffend may serve indefinitely. Prisoners are encouraged to work while in prison for either the prison itself or private companies (with a portion of wages garnished to pay for the prison) to ensure they have relevant job skills upon release. Prisoners can also spend their wages in prison for specific pre-approved creature comforts.
2) Eliminate the sex offender registry, and employers can no longer ask if applicants have committed a felony.
3) Legalize marijuana and some opiate painkillers in limited quantities.
4) Legalize all other drugs, but you must register as a user and acquire them from a pharmacy, where rehab is promoted. Registered users cannot have custody of children.

TAXES
1) Eliminate the bottom tax bracket. Everyone saves $837.50 off the bat.
2) Reverse the Bush tax cut extension.
3) Create a 50% tax bracket for income over $500,000, 67% bracket for income over $1,000,000, and a 75% bracket for income over $2,000,000.
4) Eliminate the FICA tax cap, and raise capital gains taxes.
5) Raise corporate taxes, but give significant tax breaks to businesses for creating and retaining more full-time jobs in America.
6) Eliminate the home mortgage interest deduction and various other tax loopholes for the rich.

GUNS
1) Guns legal to own, but safety training and justified use of force training is mandatory.
2) Concealed carry is legal with a permit, but using a concealed weapon to commit a crime is a felony.
3) Use of overpenetrative force is illegal in populated areas for any reason. .30-06 blacktip is not a self defense round, ever. Those carrying for self-defense should prepare with hollow-points or better yet, frangibles.
 
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Proeliator

Generically Unique
Well the international market could no longer recognize the currency, thus devolving the country so far in debt that a christian network would go, "Hi I'm here in poverty stricken america, many of these children go without food for days cause of their country's economic collapse. For only 50 cents a day you could feed children such as andy, or jane. call now at 1-8-amrca-r-dmb"

Not really that far. Plenty of communist countries have gone through periods of massive debt, and hyperinflation, but that never stopped us from recognizing them, nor did it drive them down to the conditions of African countries. The remnants of the dissolved USSR may not be the best places to live (by far), but are still livable. They have schools, high literacy, etc.
 

Lathou

New Member
America is supposed to be a free country. Forcing people to have health insurance is kinda taking away that option.

Free not to have health insurance, free not to eat, free to blast our brains out with a shotgun. Freedom rocks!
 

Lathou

New Member
Not really that far. Plenty of communist countries have gone through periods of massive debt, and hyperinflation, but that never stopped us from recognizing them, nor did it drive them down to the conditions of African countries. The remnants of the dissolved USSR may not be the best places to live (by far), but are still livable. They have schools, high literacy, etc.

Now a so called "communist" country has America by the balls with debt. The US wished they were as capitalistic as China. ;)
 

Aetius

It's Me Gordon, Barney from Black Mesa
Education: You will be taught to love Big Brother

Civil rights: You will have the right to love Big brother

Foreign policy: You will die for Big Brother
 

Garfang

Member
i don't agree with your statments OP :p but its ok^^ in a country i believe that you have to bring balance in economy and people. The only thing that matter is to have someone who don't care about money or power ... someone who cares about his people and his country.. but when you find that come and tell me :p
 

Bliss

Member
Everything is fine. Live happily ever after, my people! :)

Well, maybe I'd cut humanitarian immigration a bit, make capital gains taxes slightly progressive, give equal rights to queer folk, keep our socialist health care the way it is, and try to cut government spending by removing unnecessary byrocracy and merge some municipaties. ^^

And not fucking give guns to crazy people. Including me.
 

Sarcastic Coffeecup

Hand. Cannot. Erase.
I would bring skynet online and build cylons.
 

CannonFodder

Resistance is futile! If 0 ohm
ITT: Furries realize they need more than a high school diploma to run a country.
No single person runs a country, but a team.


To continue on with the thread I would have a counsel of 10 elected officials who every fifteen years go through re-election with two term limit, president gets elected every five years and two term limit. Each elected official would represent 1/10th of the country, each branch of the government would be mostly autonomous, elected officials would not be allowed to interfere with the economy, the department of education, medicade, medicare, the EPA, the judicial branch, etc.
Basically like the department of education would go, "Yeah, I need this amount of money", then the budget oversight committee would go, "alright, this, this and this I don't really see the need for, do you really need it?", "Well we this and this isn't a emergency". "Alright, this program we will not fund though cause it'd be a waste".

Also a national lending agency and that, basically a national bank that anybody could loan money from or get credit cards from.
So pretty much the elected officials would only be for stuff that has just come up and needs a precedent for and even then their political power would be limited in what they can and can't do and their power would be very well defined so they couldn't screw the rules.
 

Torrijos-sama

The Artist Formerly Known as Jesusfish
Reform of the Public School System:

We need to pursue a School Voucher system for Public Schools, so that way we can eliminate the Robinhood laws... And we need to develop forms of standardized testing to insure that some schools don't become Diploma Mills under the Voucher system.

I want the state to develop an independent system of testing that measures understanding of: Science, History, Geography, Sociology, Mathematics, Economics, Accounting, English, English Literature, Philosophy, and Psychology.

I want to push for the option to graduate officially at 16, and I want the last 2 years of public schooling to consist of either College Prep, or Technical School.

I've decided that the state of Texas could afford to pay for community college tuition. It costs about $15,000 to $20,000 for an Associates degree here in Texas, and I would prefer that the state at least provide tuition assistance to those who are actually passing their classes, and get an associates degree in 1-2 years.


Also, I want a 16 lane, Megafucker Highway built through my state. The Texas Autostrada.

Nothing more.
 
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