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If you were getting no likes/faves on your art, would you still draw?

Would you keep going?

  • Yes

    Votes: 108 94.7%
  • No

    Votes: 6 5.3%

  • Total voters
    114

Bidoyinn

Active Member
Yes, absolutely!

I started drawing because I wanted to, and I'll still want to even if people aren't looking my way when I post a piece. Likes and faves aren't the end of the world, and if you keep posting and improving, you'll rack up those points anyway. Though it's helpful to know what kind of stuff people are enjoying in my gallery, likes and faves aren't related to whether or not I'll continue posting my art.

If you love it, you keep doing it anyway. People will eventually follow.
 

LuxerHusku

The Unlucky Husky
Eh, I know this can get pretty bad, but I want to get this off my chest.

I have bwwn drawing foe almost 15 years. I use to draw just foe the fun of it and I loved every single one of my drawings. Once I almost graduated school and really have internet at home, all of that hapiness have dropped. Every art I looked at has been beautifully well drawn, textured, animated, whatever, it bothers me. I compare my work to theirs and get upset at my own work because it's no good.

I gave participated in art class three times, but we never have gotten to draw or paint anything. It was all pottery, whichanu students voted for. I was fun for the first time, but I really wanted to learn the basics and fundamentals from my teacher, but no, we were all stuck witj pottery. Worse is that no one besides myself and a few friends were working on it. They all just talk, do nothing, be on their phones, listen to music, etc.

After I graduated, I was still torn. I tried to practice drawing by myself, read amd watch tutorials, tracing, referencing, traied to mimick a style that I loved. Nothing seems to be making me happy because they aren't helping me geting better at my work. It has been going on 4 years and nothing I have worked with had made me smile.

I had an FA and DA, Twiter, even used Flipnote Hatena to share my animation, which were choppy as hell. None of my work have received any likes or comments, no critiques or anything. I was pretty bummed that they're not getting any attention. I eventually fell into depression, as of today, and thought to myself that my art is very mediocre and I am doing somethin wrong.

I get so frustrated woth my work and I can never finish them. Some of the ones I have finished and posted were deleted because I wanted to start over, keep working on my art. If there are no liles or comments after a week or two, I get rid of it. There was a certain fur that I like and wantes to make a fan art of, so he accepted it and posted it on his FA. Days later, he had posted art that he had commisioned and they have gained a lot of likes and a few comments. I checked mine. Nothing... I was...hurt... I felt like my works just sucks and it wil never be good. I contacted the guy and asked if he could take down my artwork of him and he did.

I really wanted to turn my art into a carrer, but I just cannot accept the work I have done in the past. I trashed almost everything. I lost every motivation to draw anymore, and motivational speeches, like "Keep practicing!", "There are artists who are worse than you." doesn't help anymore. I always took motivational speeches are just to cheer you up qithout any real critisism. And speaking of critisism, no one gives me any critiques, juat a bunch of "Looks good" commenta when I post on Telegram. I know there is something wrong with my work, I just don't know what it is or how to improve it.

Do I still draw? Yes, but not nearly as much as I use to anymore. I rarely draw now. At times, I just want to give up, but I can because I don't want all those years of practicing be a huge waste...

Oh, and I don't use FA, DA, or any other site that I use to post my work anymore. They are all closed.
 
S

Steelite

Guest
There was a certain fur that I like and wantes to make a fan art of, so he accepted it and posted it on his FA. Days later, he had posted art that he had commisioned and they have gained a lot of likes and a few comments. I checked mine. Nothing... I was...hurt... I felt like my works just sucks and it wil never be good. I contacted the guy and asked if he could take down my artwork of him and he did.
Reminds me of the time a guy requested me for a birthday gift for his big brother.
Same thing happened. Every piece that guy has for his brother, all has a heck lot of likes and comments and whatnot, including from the two brothers themselves.
You know what mine got ? One single comment from the big brother.

"Huh."

Yeah. Just that one word. Not even a like. A week later, I asked them to just take down my work because I felt really embarrased.

And speaking of critisism, no one gives me any critiques, juat a bunch of "Looks good" commenta when I post on Telegram. I know there is something wrong with my work, I just don't know what it is or how to improve it.
Sometimes people don't wanna give you critiques because they may not know how to actually deliver it without hurting your feelings and turning you down. If you want critiques, just ask them upfront, "Do you have any feedbacks ?". Otherwise... yeah, "looks good" is mostly all you'll get.

I'm not an expert, but if you need help with your works, try me.
 

Kopatropa

Drawing seriously since 2013
There was a certain fur that I like and wantes to make a fan art of, so he accepted it and posted it on his FA. Days later, he had posted art that he had commisioned and they have gained a lot of likes and a few comments. I checked mine. Nothing... I was...hurt... I felt like my works just sucks and it wil never be good. I contacted the guy and asked if he could take down my artwork of him and he did.
Ugh. People are so shallow and picky-choosy these days. They only care about art that's high tier; anything below that doesn't matter to them. It's a popularity contest where we resort to changing ourselves to fit in with society.
 

KeesNailo

Member
I don't get a lot of attention either. The last WIP I posted of a progressing piece didn't get anything. It is discouraging for two reasons:
A) We have a natural tendency tobe approved of or seek approval by our peers. We are a social creature and we crave this.
B) No one will ever improve or advance if they're not getting any progressive, constructive feedback.

I myself am guilty of being silent too and I've been thinking of mentoring an equally passionate artist who's just starting out, just to nurture that natural talent and develop it into as far as I have gone myself. I don't think I'm the greatest at any angle, but I'm not the worst either and my self-esteem concerning my work is at a humbling level but i want to do this at some point.
 

Ahnik

Hobbyist Artist
Not trying to pick a fight here, but I don't think it's a healthy attitude to blame other people for not liking your art, not leaving detailed feedback, or preferring high-quality art.

No one is obligated to like what you create, even if it's good. People will naturally tend to prefer high-quality in anything, including art. And not everyone has the time, inclination, or ability to leave detailed feedback. Sometimes people hesitate to give serious criticism because they're not sure if the artist will welcome it.

At the end of the day, you either care about appealing to other people or you don't. If you want to appeal to others or have a career in art, then fitting your art to the audience is part of the job description. If you're just in it for the fun, then you can draw whatever you like, but need to acknowledge that your only guaranteed fan is going to be yourself.

LuxerHusku, Steelite, and KeesNailo, if you guys want to exchange feedback or critique, feel free to get in touch with me. I'm no professional, but I can be objective and honest. There are plenty of sites online for getting serious artistic feedback as well. And asking friends and family is always an option, as long as you're confident they'll be honest with you.
 

fralea

Well-Known Member
Ugh. People are so shallow and picky-choosy these days. They only care about art that's high tier; anything below that doesn't matter to them. It's a popularity contest where we resort to changing ourselves to fit in with society.

This will probably come across as offensive, but why should anyone care about art that isn't high tier? (excepting the artist's parent/guardian perhaps)

If a stranger served you a hamburger that they slaved for hours making, but it didn't taste good, you probably wouldn't choke it down anyway. You'd go get a better hamburger. (especially if you didn't pay for it)

There are certainly people out there that try to help and encourage artists who are still learning, but I don't think anyone should feel entitled to that. Plus there are people who value certain content over others regardless of skill-level, but then they still aren't obligated to like lower quality work of topics that don't interest them.
 

Kopatropa

Drawing seriously since 2013
This will probably come across as offensive, but why should anyone care about art that isn't high tier? (excepting the artist's parent/guardian perhaps)

If a stranger served you a hamburger that they slaved for hours making, but it didn't taste good, you probably wouldn't choke it down anyway. You'd go get a better hamburger. (especially if you didn't pay for it)

There are certainly people out there that try to help and encourage artists who are still learning, but I don't think anyone should feel entitled to that. Plus there are people who value certain content over others regardless of skill-level, but then they still aren't obligated to like lower quality work of topics that don't interest them.
Is this where the popularity contest comes into play?
 

jffry890

Well-Known Member
I'd be more upset that people not saying "You suck" aren't giving me attention. How can I improve if people are too nice and constantly saying "Wow!", "Nice job!", and "I love it!"?
Nonconstructive criticisms are a killer for me.
 

jffry890

Well-Known Member
The way I see it if you're drawing just for attention and gratification then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. Draw because you want to regardless of what people do/don't say. :)

You seem to misunderstand how the pornography industry works. You go where the money is.
 

fralea

Well-Known Member
I'd be more upset that people not saying "You suck" aren't giving me attention. How can I improve if people are too nice and constantly saying "Wow!", "Nice job!", and "I love it!"?
Nonconstructive criticisms are a killer for me.

Do you outright tell people you want critique? Many people go by the unspoken rule that unless someone specifically asks they won't say anything bad ("if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all"). Unfortunately if your work isn't as good (I have no idea, haven't seen your work) you'll likely get less views because not as many people will be clicking on the thumbnail. Seeking out a forum or group chat focused around critiques is good in that situation. Or just asking artist friends if you have some.

Is this where the popularity contest comes into play?

If you are asking if people who have high quality work will get more likes/favs, the answer is all else equal, yes. Because more people will like it if its good. Of course, this isn't always apparent since artistic taste comes into play as well as content/personality/entertainment value/advertising skill.
 

Kopatropa

Drawing seriously since 2013
I'd be more upset that people not saying "You suck" aren't giving me attention. How can I improve if people are too nice and constantly saying "Wow!", "Nice job!", and "I love it!"?
Nonconstructive criticisms are a killer for me.
I dunno, short praise is always welcome to me. That's how low my self esteem is.
 

KeesNailo

Member
This isn't a battle of what people should or shouldn't do for the sake of someone else's self esteem. All I'm pointing out is that any artist in a box won't progress any further than what they teach themselves.

Nurturing any talent will always improve the talent over years of practice. Toddlers have their parents, students have their teachers, adults have their peers. Why do we have programs to teach how to make music, art and films? How can anyone get better than how they started if theres no feedback or nurturing?

Yes, no one is obligated to give constructive crits on any created piece but neither are we free to turn a blind eye. It's not a matter of taking personal responsibility for someone's growth, but about simple gesturing their efforts towards a greater result. If someone doesnt want to do that, they dont have to and it's not something to get offended at. Someone will always eventually help the person.

From my own personal experience, if I had never been given the feedback, nurturing and crits from a young age, I would not have had the thought to continue to be an artist. If there's no shown interest in something from some outside force for an older individual, and especially for a 5 or 6 year old, then more than likely the person would stop unless they truly do not care for feedback and the lack thereof will not hinder or bother them.

But we are not talking about those stronger people here. We're talking about the ones who are growing and need feedback more than ever. Ask any film studio that animates their movies by hand or 3D, do they think the feedback meant a difference to them when they were making the movie and showing it?

It makes a difference. Not just visually in the result, but also to the person that created it. Don't take this message with a sour note. I comment, retweet, reblog, share and support any developing artist that needs the reaction and advice and I'm nice about it and constructive in a way that doesn't make them regret or embarrassed for making the piece. Im not a saint and I'm not any better than anyone else, no one else has to do what I do. I choose to do it when I can because I know what it did for me and it's a powerful feeling when you know you helped someone advance a little in their passion. I have a natural tendency to teach and I would LOVE to be an art teacher some day.

I'm old enough to not push into what I need for too long, I let it go. I want the feedback but I'm not going to tantrum for it. That doesn't mean it doesn't chip away and leave doubt sometimes and if it can make a 30 year old feel that way, imagine how it can make a 10 year old feel.

I hope the core message of this thread does not instill a message of, "You looked at it so you must comment" or "their art sucks but pretent you like it". That's not at all what OP implied I'm sure.


@Ahnik Thank You! I will hit you up when I get a chance. I'm waiting on a new tablet and I just got my first vehicle so I'm just all over the place right now. I'll message you shortly!
 

jffry890

Well-Known Member
Do you outright tell people you want critique? Many people go by the unspoken rule that unless someone specifically asks they won't say anything bad ("if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it at all")

I do ask for critique in everything that I post. Sometimes I get it and it's a huge boost (arms too long, proportions off, perspective doesn't make sense). I'm an amateur artist at best and my strong suit is traditional still life, not digital cartoons. I accept the harshest critiques unless it's obvious they're just being an ass about it. I realize most people don't want to offend and it's hard to give a critique if you don't know what to look for, but even someone who's not an artist can still spot if something is obviously wrong. I like blunt criticism and I have a professional artist friend who sometimes redlines my line art for me to fix and gives advice. Cool dude.
 

Kopatropa

Drawing seriously since 2013
I hope the core message of this thread does not instill a message of, "You looked at it so you must comment" or "their art sucks but pretent you like it". That's not at all what OP implied I'm sure.

Not at all. I'm just envious of some artists.
 

fralea

Well-Known Member
I do ask for critique in everything that I post. Sometimes I get it and it's a huge boost (arms too long, proportions off, perspective doesn't make sense). I'm an amateur artist at best and my strong suit is traditional still life, not digital cartoons. I accept the harshest critiques unless it's obvious they're just being an ass about it. I realize most people don't want to offend and it's hard to give a critique if you don't know what to look for, but even someone who's not an artist can still spot if something is obviously wrong. I like blunt criticism and I have a professional artist friend who sometimes redlines my line art for me to fix and gives advice. Cool dude.

I like doing crits if you ever wanna hmu I can see what I can do if I have time ^^
I'm glad you have a friend who is willing to help out though, that's awesome.
 

malibu

Well-Known Member
I draw for myself, and I actually have a lot of artwork that I've never posted online and most likely never will. I have a ton of work that's sitting on my desk and a handful collecting dust on my hard drive, but I honestly don't think people would enjoy seeing them so I keep them to myself. If I suddenly got zero interest in the artwork that I do post online, I might stop uploading, but I will never stop drawing.
 

Kopatropa

Drawing seriously since 2013
It's amazing how so many of you don't feel like shit over a lack of attention while I feel a lack of attention says something about an artist.
 

fralea

Well-Known Member
It's amazing how so many of you don't feel like shit over a lack of attention while I feel a lack of attention says something about an artist.
Maybe that says something about you?
 

jffry890

Well-Known Member
It's amazing how so many of you don't feel like shit over a lack of attention while I feel a lack of attention says something about an artist.

Well I don't draw for attention. I draw for self-improvement and for fun. If you want attention, exposure is everything. Draw a lot, and I mean A LOT, to get your name out there. Doing free requests will help as well as give you ideas and practice on many different aspects of drawing. And of course the higher quality your drawings are, the more attention you'll receive as well. I would imagine that most artists reserve their best work for commission, but having some high quality work in your portfolio could encourage people to consider you for commission. All the people who care about attention would be over in the Exhange and Sales boards.
 

Ahnik

Hobbyist Artist
Doing free requests will help as well as give you ideas and practice on many different aspects of drawing.

This is only sometimes true. Requests won't give any more exposure than just drawing normally if you always respond to requests by the same people, for example. They also won't necessarily help you practice different things if the requests are all for the same type of content you're already drawing. Lastly, doing free requests is a downright bad idea if you're also doing commissions or planning to do them in the near future. The old adage that you're only worth as much as you cost is true; if you're regularly giving people art for free, people will assume your art isn't worth much.

If you're short of ideas, it's best to look around art sites rather than take requests. e621 is great for exploring; its tagging and searching features are the best of any site I've encountered.

In short, be very selective about requests and art that you give away for free. Rather than giving away a lot of art, it can be much better to make two or three very good pieces and gift them to other people in the community who have large numbers of followers. Make sure to ask first, though, as not all people are comfortable receiving random gifts, and they may not want to share them on their page.
 
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