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i'm scared to die

Fruitythebeetle

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the world is going to shit, the afterlife, souls, or even god is not real, and everything i look forward to for the future has been dis-proven by science. should i live or should i even accept death?

why does does reality fucking suck? why can't my brain be hooked up to virtual reality so i may live in a virtual afterlife? oh of course, scientist say it cost too much money and will take 100 years to perfect. human rights will take 100 years to happen, the world not going to shit is gonna take 100 years to happen. and the average human lifespan is 90 years at best. that's if i eat healthy and pray i don't get an incurable dieseae within 50 years.

well....at least i can make the most out it i guess.
 
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ManicTherapsid

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It's a question we all ask, and have to come up with a personal answer for at some point in our lives. Some have gone as far to say that facing this question is the true moment of adulthood.
Mortality and evil are perhaps the 2 greatest subjects every great philosopher such as Plato, Aquinas, Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, Camus have tried to tackle and ll had their own conclusions.
It's one of those things that makes us human.

In the end, my best advice is to try to discover what you find personally important, and to do your best help make the world a better place, no matter how small the contribution may feel.


Keep your head up, there may be more lights in the darkness than you realize. :)
 
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CrookedCroc

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I understand how you feel I truly do, I know I won't live long enough to see or experience certain things, but despite that I don't let it get to me, I try to enjoy what the world has to offer and have a good time while I'm alive.
I'm not a religious person, I don't believe in an afterlife and because I know death is permanent that's why I try to have as much fun I can have while I'm alive.

I guess my word of wisdom would be: don't focus in things you can't do or control, there's no point in doing so, just enjoy the moment, have fun with your friends, hobbies and family.
 
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luffy

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I'm not really scared of dying, I'm just anxious for what my family/loved ones would go through if I did die. To me, dying is a simple switch - you're awake one moment, then you're not the next, and there's no capacity to worry about it... because you're no longer conscious.

There's of course a lot of unknown that comes after, but I think it's more comforting than it is scary. Even if there is a "Heaven" or "Hell", I've lived what I perceive any reasonable god would believe is a "morally good" life. No crime, respect with my relationships, keeping to myself. But that starts to get more into spirituality so I don't wanna expand anymore.

I'm not too worried about dying young. My health isn't great and I'm pretty sure I have an immunity disorder that's undiagnosed. Just gotta keep living day by day! Whatever happens, happens, and we don't really have a say in it in the end. So focus on yourself in the now and near future but don't fret about what's coming 50, or even 100, years down the line. :)

There are so many unknowns that anything could be a possibility. Focus on the good ones and choose to believe that the outcome will be one of those. That's all you really can do.
 

Seiden

Member
You won't even know when you'll be dead. You will not feel it, you will not be conscious of it. You will never know that you're dead.
For this reason, I feel like there is nothing to stress about. You'll feel nothing anyway.
 

Telnac

Fundamentalist Heretic
It's natural to fear death. If I didn't believe in an afterlife I'd be paranoid about dying too. Heck, I do believe in an afterlife but I'm in no rush to meet my Maker. There's much more to experience in this life; I want to experience far more of it!
 

Jinxie

Happy pinky hacker 'droid
the world is going to shit, the afterlife, souls, or even god is not real, and everything i look forward to for the future has been dis-proven by science. should i live or should i even accept death?
*Hugz* Please don't die, Fruity-San. Jinxie luvs ya. <3 If ya wanna send Jinxie a FA note, Jinxie'll talk with ya fer sure!
 

Zehlua

Magepunk Fashionisto
I've dealt with EXTREME thanatophobia for nearly a decade, and a few years ago, I was suicidal despite those fears. Here is what happened to me, and how I cope with it:

I needed to find the right religion for me that would bring me peace. I was a part of a Christian cult for nearly 10 years, and it came to a head when I attended one of the cult's colleges for 2 years. Things got very ugly, and I fell apart as a person. I went from star pupil to C average, well-behaved angel to angry nervous wreck.
In the cult, they told us we needed to bring about the End Times by sending missionaries all over the world. If we checked off every country on the map, Jesus would come down and snatch us up, and then proceed to go on a violent rampage to kill everyone else. This terrified me to my core. I no longer found peace and healing in my faith, and I was spiritually devastated for years. This vision of God brought me horrific nightmares and panic attacks.
I chose to turn my back on the cult. For years afterwards, I would receive letters and phone calls and college adverts begging and harassing me, but I am never going back.
Instead, I became a witch. I told Jesus I wouldn't give up on Him, but I needed a new way to pray and worship that didn't terrorize me. I'm also Native American, and our beliefs line up with what I need spiritually. I still haven't found total peace with God, but this is as close as I can get without having a nervous breakdown. Someday I'll find the same comfort in Christ that I once had, but that day is not today.

I went to therapy and talked to friends and family I trust. It took me years to admit that I had this phobia that was causing me to panic all night and day. Despite my worries, it was helpful to talk about it with the right people.

I currently take medication to lessen the effects of my anxiety and depression, and it has helped me tremendously. Though I was on the wrong meds at first, I did eventually find that a low dose of lexapro is best for me at this time.

Whenever I'm panicking, I play the 54321 game (5 things you can see, 4 things you can touch, 3 things you can hear, 2 things you can smell, and 1 thing you like about yourself) or I Have A Basket (naming something for every letter of the alphabet that can fit into a basket.) I also have to practice deep breathing... if I breathe calmly and slowly during panic attacks, they go away quicker.

My panic attacks used to last for HOURS, and I was legitimately going insane.
I remember one day in college when we were in mandatory church service, and I was set off by a very scary sermon. I was walking around in tears clutching the front of my shirt so I could feel tethered to my body. I didn't want to let go of my life.
Sleeping at night became impossible. To this day, I have a hard time not being a night owl. I used to spend all night having breakdowns, and during the day, I'd be passed out, often in classes and other public places.
I learned to completely avoid sermons like that, and people. I cut that toxicity out of my life. Church should make you feel like you're alive and thriving, not dying and doomed!
I learned that there is no shame in reverting back to the things that helped me sleep as a child. Get you a stuffed animal that you can really cuddle with (I have a pink seahorse that's almost as tall as me, for example) and some books you can read to them. If you have a dog or a cat that likes to be with you at bedtime, even better. Read soothing books. I ended up collecting a whole library of children's books because gosh darn it, they help!
(I recommend the complete series of My Fathers Dragon by Ruth Stiles Gannett... that story always puts me in a great mood. I also recommend Factfulness by Hans Rosling.)

Very important to note, sometimes our bad feelings arise from our bodies. For example, I am VERY likely to have a panic attack when I need to use the bathroom, when I'm hungry, when I'm cold, and when I've eaten something that doesn't agree with me. I've since had to change my diet to prevent panic and despair. I avoid ice cream, cow milk, too much sugar, beef, baked beans, beer, excessive cheese, and going back for seconds and thirds. Instead, I have a lot more water, almond milk, bird and fish meats, green beans, the occasional lemonade or limeade, and I stop eating when the hunger goes away instead of feeling stuffed full.

When it comes to feeling like the world is a shitty place, I start studying nature. There are endless beautiful things in this world that give me hope and spark wonder. Underwater forests, cotton candy grapes, apples that are pink on the inside, cloudberries, venus fly traps, tenreks, seahorses, parrot fish... I am always in awe of nature, and it comforts me to know that other people are out there taking the time to appreciate it, too.

Whenever I feel like there's no point to living because we're all going to die anyway, I give myself something small to do that will snap me out of it. Dishes, laundry, washing the windows, cleaning my room, game programming in Furcadia, brushing my dog's fur.
A wisdom I want to pass on to everyone in this world: Life is all about sandcastles.
Why do we play in the sand, if everything we make is going to get washed away? Why bother, when it's gone tomorrow? Why even begin to take the time to craft the castle walls and decorate with seashells and sticks?
Because it's FUN. It has meaning and a purpose. All the things we do in life are temporary, and that's okay and we should learn to appreciate ans expect that. We live in the moment, and what we do in the present is meaningful and important, no matter how small. The dishes in the sink will be filthy again tomorrow, and that's fine. My family is happy every time I do them.

The world is not perfect, but it's our home, and I've chosen to find all the things I love to love about it. People are scary, confusing, frustrating, and hurtful, and yet I can find at least one thing to appreciate about every human being.

The afterlife may or may not be there, but I'm convinced it is. I've had too many wacky experiences to not believe. Pascal's ultimatum says that it's better to have faith. You have everything to gain and nothing to lose by having a healthy amount of spirituality in your life.

All in all, worry is often a waste of time. Do your best to cope. Find a good therapist and support network. We are all in this experience together, so you won't have trouble finding the help you need.

Remember to eat well, pee often, and build really great sandcastles.
 
Even with religion, I’ve occasionally feared death. Doubts and worried continue to cross my mind all the time! Though one thought i’ve came to realization is, even if religion is false, even if there is no afterlife, at-least I tried my best to be a better person and that the false hope kept me happy during my life.
 

Ramjet

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So little is known about conciousness, it's an interesting subject really...

If it resides from deeper level quantum function, then the no-hiding theorem could come to play..
Quantum information can't be lost, only transferred.

Who really know?
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
So little is known about conciousness, it's an interesting subject really...

If it resides from deeper level quantum function, then the no-hiding theorem could come to play..
Quantum information can't be lost, only transferred.

Who really know?

I feel like this is another example of humans trying to deny death by persuading themselves that really they're immortal.

Nobody spends their time trying to argue that all of the world's mice have immortal consciousnesses though.
 

Ramjet

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I feel like this is another example of humans trying to deny death by persuading themselves that really they're immortal.

Nobody spends their time trying to argue that all of the world's mice have immortal consciousnesses though.

Meh, you could say the same for the other school of thought.
 
I feel like this is another example of humans trying to deny death by persuading themselves that really they're immortal.

Nobody spends their time trying to argue that all of the world's mice have immortal consciousnesses though.
Immortality would kinda get boring after jason-bourning your way around earth for a couple years tbh. :V
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Meh, you could say the same for the other school of thought.

I'm not sure which other school of thought in quantum mechanics you mean.

My overall attitude to quantum mechanics is that it describes how things like lightbulbs and transistors really work, rather than being a gateway to use the scientific method to interrogate spiritual subjects.
 

Ramjet

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I'm not sure which other school of thought in quantum mechanics you mean.

My overall attitude to quantum mechanics is that it describes how things like lightbulbs and transistors really work, rather than being a gateway to use the scientific method to interrogate spiritual subjects.


Or how plants are super efficient at absorbing light, bird navigation, and possibly our sense of smell...

Just a few months ago scientists found a new form of brain communication using EEG waves that was thought impossible..

neurosciencenews.com: Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain

Not to mention Quantum vibrations found in brain microtubules...

To believe science even has half of the answers right now is the highlight of arrogance.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Or how plants are super efficient at absorbing light, bird navigation, and possibly our sense of smell...

Just a few months ago scientists found a new form of brain communication using EEG waves that was thought impossible..

neurosciencenews.com: Discovering a New Form of Communication in the Brain

Not to mention Quantum vibrations found in brain microtubules...

To believe science even has half of the answers right now is the highlight of arrogance.

Agreed, which is why it is so suspicious when people make claims about quantum mechanical reincarnation and so on.
There isn't even an accepted definition of what consciousness even is, before it can be decided whether it is a fundamental phenomenon or if it is conserved.

If people want to believe in reincarnation, I hope that makes them happy. It's premature to claim those beliefs have anything to do with quantum mechanics though; they will probably never be interrogable by any science.
 

Ramjet

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Agreed, which is why it is so suspicious when people make claims about quantum mechanical reincarnation and so on.
There isn't even an accepted definition of what consciousness even is, before it can be decided whether it is a fundamental phenomenon or if it is conserved.

If people want to believe in reincarnation, I hope that makes them happy. It's premature to claim those beliefs have anything to do with quantum mechanics though; they will probably never be interrogable by any science.


Read my first post again carefully.
 
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