i'm scared to die

[ZeroVoidTime]

I do this at points as well

One of my big fears is not that you just die, but that maybe there's an afterlife, and that it's not Heaven or Hell, but just very, very boring.

You mean like the Twilight Zone episode "A Nice Place to Visit"?........

 

[Anon Raccoon]

www.google.com: The stress of marriage shortens your life by a year (if you're the



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I am correctly making the point that getting married and starting a family is the physically and emotionally healthy thing to do. What point are you making? That spending your life being a lonely virgin covered in Cheeto dust and killing yourself at 45 because you have no life is the good idea?

Relevant to OP: have a family, grow old, and die surrounded by loved ones. If you talk to old people about death they talk about family.

 

[Misha Bordiga Zahradník]

Just so I'm being clear, marriage can be a wonderful thing if you get married on your terms because you love someone and want to make that commitment, but is not an anti-depressant. If you find someone you want to marry, then marry them. But do it because you want to and not because you were pressured to do so or told that it was the key to being happy in life.

Far from curing existential dread, I find relationships make you worry for the end of yourself and your love one. A worry that can be well worth having in a loving relationship.

And don't let people tell you need a man to be happy because of their low-key sexist and homophobic worldview. *side eyes* Don't let anyone tell you not to get married or love someone because of their off kilter views on relationships. Love because you want to love, as an end unto itself and not a means.

If you talk to old people about death they talk about family.

Old people got divorced in a mass wave as soon as no fault divorce became legal. I have multiple old people in my life who have families and children they love and exes they despise, and relatives trapped in abusive relationships because of that "stand by your man" bullshit.

You are actively telling them that if they don't have a relationship they will be miserable, and trying to FoMO them into marrying young. Please don't.

 

[Anon Raccoon]

Just so I'm being clear, marriage can be a wonderful thing if you get married on your terms because you love someone and want to make that commitment, but is not an anti-depressant. If find someone you want to marry, then marry them. But do it because you want to and not because you were pressured to do so or told that it was the key to being happy in life.

Far from curing existential dread, I find relationships make you worry for the end of yourself and your love one. A worry that can be well worth having in a loving relationship.

And don't let people tell you need a man to be happy because of their low-key sexist and homophobic worldview. *side eyes* Don't let anyone tell you not to get married or love someone because of their off kilter views on relationships. Love because you want to love, as an end unto itself and not a means.

Old people got divorced in a mass wave as soon as no fault divorce became legal. I have multiple old people in my life who have families and children they love and exes they despise, and relatives trapped in abusive relationships because bof that "stand by your man" bullshit. You are actively telling them that if they don't have a relationship they will be miserable, and trying to FoMO them into marrying young. Please don't.

Save your breath. This was never about divorce. This is about actually finding happiness and meaning in life so you feel fulfilled when you die. And for the vast majority of people that involves starting a family.

 

[Tazmo]

The meaning in and of life is what you make it

 

[ManicTherapsid]

 

[GarthTheWereWolf]

 

[xremeidiot]

@Anon Raccoon Dude, assuming you haven’t scared the poor girl off already, you’re just making things worse.

There are far more ways to leave a legacy than having kids. To imply that this is the only or the best way is very harmful. VERY harmful.

I’m going to assume you yourself are married with kids; I can’t imagine why you’d take such a strong stance if you weren’t. If that makes YOU happy, good. That does NOT make it okay to claim that’s the only way the majority of people can be happy.

 

[Anon Raccoon]

To imply that this is the only or the best way is very harmful. VERY harmful.

No it very much is not.

I’m going to assume you yourself are married with kids; I can’t imagine why you’d take such a strong stance if you weren’t. If that makes YOU happy, good. That does NOT make it okay to claim that’s the only way the majority of people can be happy.

No I am not, but that is still absolutely a valid claim to make.

 

[Limedragon27]

I'm often scared of the thought of death myself, the fear of the unknown is a great one. But you should note that while science can prove most things, it can't prove everything and few times it can even be wrong. There could be an afterlife even if there isn't a god. Believing in something surely helps me with it.

 

[Misha Bordiga Zahradník]

Also, since people were suggesting religion, may I point out that the Norse Gods are a thing if you are interested in that.

 

[xremeidiot]

@Fruitythebeetle If you're still listening, my apologies for how derailed this has gotten.

I'd like to tell you a story of when I was in 6th grade. There was a girl in my class who had cancer. Over time, she got worse, until she was absent every day. Then, one day, the teacher told us that she had died and that he was going to leave a card on his desk for us all to sign so her parents would know we would miss her. I distinctly remember hearing something along the lines of "we will feel guilty later if we don't sign it." But I didn't sign it, because I was too introverted and didn't know her that well. The teacher wasn't wrong, I still think about it to this day and get a little sad. I can even still remember her first name.

This young girl who I didn't even interact with made an impact on me that will last the rest of my life. And you have done the same for countless people whose paths you have crossed, myself included. So I just want you to know that even when you're gone, you're not really gone.

 

[Limedragon27]

Also, since people were suggesting religion, may I point out that the Norse Gods are a thing if you are interested in that.

There is a revival religion for that, either Asatru or Heathenism, whatever term you want to use. It is pretty cool if you can get by all the ancestor worship and stuff like that.

 

[Jackpot Raccuki]

Don't dwell about an ending to your story when you're just a few chapters in.
Heck, when you've had a good life with some good friends, you'll not fear death, because you had a good life that you'll be happy for the fullstop.


Then again my edgy self stopped fearing death because I embraced it, lmao.

 

[Tazmo]

"Remember that death is not the end but only a transition"

Fatal Tragedy by Dream Theater

 

[Saurex]

I'm not scientist, but I will say this:

There is a simple truth in the universe which states nothing can be created or destroyed. You are made of the same material that was used by a nebula to form the sun that wakes me up every morning (bloody thing). When you're body stops working (because I view the body as a machine and like all machines it eventually breaks down) it's materials are recycled back into the system that birthed them. That same principle is applied to energy. Now, soul or not, there is an energy source that powers the human body which science has yet to explain. So, that being the case, if nothing is created or destroyed, then that energy powering your body has to go somewhere and must be something. Even if it isn't a "conscience" it is something that acts as a unit separate from the body and which animates the "mechanical" aspects of life.

That energy, often dubbed the soul or spirit, will have to do something, go somewhere or transfer over to a new system when your body shuts down. That's simply how the universe functions.

Also, don't worry, you aren't alone in your fears. I just accepted the fact that I'm going to die one day and there's nothing I can do about it. I'll delay it as long as I can, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the inevitable.

 

[GarthTheWereWolf]

It's possible that there isn't any meaning in this world. But isn't that wonderful in its own right?

Because if there isn't any, we can find our own. <:

Enjoy life. Don't fear death. We are fortunate to have been given the time we have.

So why waste it despairing that it will eventually end?

To quote Nightwish:

"We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones
Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born
The potential people who could have been here in my place
But who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara
Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton
We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA
So massively exceeds the set of actual people
In the teeth of those stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here
We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds
How dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state
From which the vast majority have never stirred?"

 

[CaptainCool]

So yesterday someone sent me a link to a video that I am not gonna link to here...
A horse got kicked in the face by another horse and collapsed on the ground.
Then it died as it was crapping all over the place... I am not scared of death because as I said earlier, to me it's part of nature. But I do NOT want to go out like that horse did! O_O

 

[Fallowfox]

Save your breath. This was never about divorce. This is about actually finding happiness and meaning in life so you feel fulfilled when you die. And for the vast majority of people that involves starting a family.

Can you and @Misha Bordiga Zahradník just compromise that people should, if they want to, start families out of love that develops naturally, rather than because of fear of being alone?

I'm not scientist, but I will say this:

There is a simple truth in the universe which states nothing can be created or destroyed. You are made of the same material that was used by a nebula to form the sun that wakes me up every morning (bloody thing). When you're body stops working (because I view the body as a machine and like all machines it eventually breaks down) it's materials are recycled back into the system that birthed them. That same principle is applied to energy. Now, soul or not, there is an energy source that powers the human body which science has yet to explain. So, that being the case, if nothing is created or destroyed, then that energy powering your body has to go somewhere and must be something. Even if it isn't a "conscience" it is something that acts as a unit separate from the body and which animates the "mechanical" aspects of life.

That energy, often dubbed the soul or spirit, will have to do something, go somewhere or transfer over to a new system when your body shuts down. That's simply how the universe functions.

Also, don't worry, you aren't alone in your fears. I just accepted the fact that I'm going to die one day and there's nothing I can do about it. I'll delay it as long as I can, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over the inevitable.

Conservation of energy cannot tell us whether or not there is a spiritual dimension in life.

The energy powering your body comes from chemicals in the food you eat reacting with oxygen in the 'catabolic' processes. The resulting chemical compounds have a lower energy state than the starting material, so the conservation of energy means they must liberate the excess energy- and that is the source of 'go' used to power metabolic processes.

As this metabolic energy has been used to do things like build proteins and move muscle fibres, it is converted into heat, which radiates away from your body into your surroundings.

So that's where the energy goes- it is constantly leaving your body. (and that's why we have to constantly eat, to replace it with new energy so that we can continue doing the metabolic processes necessary to stay alive)

As you can see the energy source powering your body is not separate from it; it is a necessary and inseparable part of your body, powering the reactions inside every cell.


Maybe there are spirits, but the way our bodies process food to liberate energy from it doesn't tell us that there are, or prove that there are not.

 

[CaptainCool]

Maybe there are spirits, but the way our bodies process food to liberate energy from it doesn't tell us that there are, or prove that there are not.

Life in itself is essentially just a constant struggle against entropy.

Also, since the complexity of a system increases as it moves towards maximum entropy, you could say that life itself is just a logical outcome of the universe moving towards maximum entropy, aka heat death.

 

[Fallowfox]

Life in itself is essentially just a constant struggle against entropy.

Also, since the complexity of a system increases as it moves towards maximum entropy, you could say that life itself is just a logical outcome of the universe moving towards maximum entropy, aka heat death.

Maybe. If some rigorous idea about how the emergence of life should relate to the cosmological evolution could be formed, then you could do things like predict the density of planets with life on them in the cosmos. It would be interesting to see whether you would reproduce the same answer as Fermi's scaling arguments.

 

[CaptainCool]

Maybe. If some rigorous idea about how the emergence of life should relate to the cosmological evolution could be formed, then you could do things like predict the density of planets with life on them in the cosmos. It would be interesting to see whether you would reproduce the same answer as Fermi's scaling arguments.

My point was just that there are plenty of logical reasons for living things being able to exist. You don't need metaphysical answers or a warped view of the concept of conservation of energy to explain why there are living things.

I like this clip from Minutephysics which explains it well and in a very simple way

 

[dragon-in-sight]

the world is going to shit, the afterlife, souls, or even god is not real, and everything i look forward to for the future has been dis-proven by science.

Well if this is what you really belive from the deepth of you heart, when what do you fear? When death translates to you as unexistence, you wouldn't realise that you are unexsistent. If you're not there even death isn't.

should i live or should i even accept death?

Even tho it doesn't seem to matter if you see it from a nihilist perspective, you don't seem to be a real nihilist inside. You still hope to hear something that gives you back your belive in life and a more suitable answer to your salvation. So it deffinetly makes sense for you to seek for a better answer. Sience hasn't found a conclusion if an afterlife exists or not exists. They just interpret measurement results into subjective assumptions. One can't measure spirit and soul with just material thinking. It's like standing
on deck of a sailing ship, blowing in the sails and wandering why it doesn't move. And even God and Heaven is just a lie there's multitude of different option how your consciousness can pass on after the end of your mortal flesh. By now you may see to be confused and forsaken. But confusion can be fertile ground from which new insights may arise. And this is why you should live on. Make your life into a search for answers and grow in wisdom. If there's nothing beyond this life you won't lose anything. But if there is more, then your wisdom will carry over enrich the rest of your existence.

 

[Anon Raccoon]

Can you and @Misha Bordiga Zahradník just compromise that people should, if they want to, start families out of love that develops naturally, rather than because of fear of being alone?

Why are you considering those mutually exclusive?? Everyone should be afraid of being alone, and because of that you go in search of someone to love... Is that so hard to understand?

 

[Anon Raccoon]

Also, since people were suggesting religion, may I point out that the Norse Gods are a thing if you are interested in that.

Only if you volunteer to be the human sacrifice...