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i'm scared to die

Fallowfox

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Anon Raccoon said:
Why are you considering those mutually exclusive?? Everyone should be afraid of being alone, and because of that you go in search of someone to love... Is that so hard to understand?
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Rather than entering into relationships for the fear of loneliness, we can enter into relationships because of the joy that we hope we'll get from them.

Getting into something as serious as a long term relationship with children because of fear, and possibly having rushed into it, risks the possibility that you will get trapped in a relationship with somebody you don't really love.
That's not a very good outcome; love's not something you can rush, and if you allow it to develop naturally with somebody you stand a better chance of getting into a long term relationship with somebody you love dearly.

 
Anon Raccoon

Anon Raccoon

4D Chess Master
Fallowfox said:
Rather than entering into relationships for the fear of loneliness, we can enter into relationships because of the joy that we hope we'll get from them.
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Yeah that's the point you want love and affection rather than loneliness. Tf are you arguing?
 
Fallowfox

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Anon Raccoon said:
??? Is your idea of what I was suggesting to just randomly throw yourself at the first available person?
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You did tell fruity to respond to their fear of death by finding a husband and to 'make a lot of babies'.
That's a bit of an overstep past people's personal boundaries, but let's put that aside. x3

Can you see why encouraging people to have children out of their fear of dying alone is not the best relationship advice?
Maybe you don't view marrying somebody because you love them, and marrying somebody because you fear loneliness as distinct from one another, but they're very different things.
 
Anon Raccoon

Anon Raccoon

4D Chess Master
Fallowfox said:
You did tell fruity to respond to their fear of death by finding a husband and to 'make a lot of babies'.
That's a bit of an overstep past people's personal boundaries, but let's put that aside. x3

Can you see why encouraging people to have children out of their fear of dying alone is not the best relationship advice?
Maybe you don't view marrying somebody because you love them, and marrying somebody because you fear loneliness as distinct from one another, but they're very different things.
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In what ridiculous universe is encouraging people to get married and start a family a bad thing?? You people are absurd

Having a family of your own will help if you are afraid of death, and somehow you schmucks get all bent out of shape at the suggestion.
 
M

Massan Otter

Guest
Anon Raccoon said:
You can't seriously write off the absolute fact that people who are married with kids are far better human beings across almost every metric. Way less suicide, longer life, wealthier, healthier, ect...
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Just to get this straight, do you believe that wealth, life expectancy, health outcomes and suicide rates are measures that can be used to show that some people are better than others? Because following that train of thought any further leads into some deeply suspect territory...
 
Fallowfox

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Anon Raccoon said:
In what ridiculous universe is encouraging people to get married and start a family a bad thing?? You people are absurd

Having a family of your own will help if you are afraid of death, and somehow you schmucks get all bent out of shape at the suggestion.
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Nobody's criticising the idea. The way you went about it just appeared very aggressive and strange though.

There's a difference between saying to a couple you know well 'eh, so are you going to have some bambinos?'
and...telling somebody that the cure to their fear of death is to have a lot of babies pronto.

Social tact, anon!
 
xremeidiot

xremeidiot

Friendly Red-Backed Butcher-Birb Boi
You aren't married with kids, so you aren't speaking from experience. You're twisting people's words to make them seem like marriage and family is undesirable in general when they're simply saying that that's not what makes everyone happy. You haven't given a single supporting argument or concrete figure to back up your claims. Your attitude is atrocious, calling people absurd schmucks and all. In short, you're being a total ass.

I honestly am starting to think you're just trolling, and this is WAY over the line. Do I need to report you?
 
CertifiedCervine

CertifiedCervine

Caribouwu
I honestly don’t think there is one single thing to lessen the fear of death, it’s different for everyone. Some find peace in religion, others in family, some in a hobby, and for me, myself I find peace with death in service.
I found this video on YT, and I feel it has a good point to add along to this.
 
Doodle Bunny

Doodle Bunny

Definitely a rabbit... 100%...
Putting all this strange internet screaming aside, I've been where you've been. An existential crisis is a horrible feeling. Everything felt pointless to me and completely lost the ability to feel anything for a short time. Thankfully, I've come out of this hole without doing anything dangerous, but I'm not 100% over the fear.

My number one goal before I die is to add something positive to other people around me. It's one of my driving forces to create. I know it's not as grand of a gesture as volunteering or anything like that (not quite ready for that, but I would like to).

I'm sorry you feel scared. I want you to know you're not alone in this experience and it's a completely valid fear.
 
Saurex

Saurex

Emerian Lore Master
Fallowfox said:
The energy powering your body comes from chemicals in the food you eat reacting with oxygen in the 'catabolic' processes. The resulting chemical compounds have a lower energy state than the starting material, so the conservation of energy means they must liberate the excess energy- and that is the source of 'go' used to power metabolic processes.
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You missed the point. I know what makes the muscles go, the heart beat, all that good stuff. I'm talking about animation. Cars have plenty of "go", as you put it, but there are not "alive".

Just because a chemical reaction creates low voltage in the cerebral cortex does not mean there will be a personality, likes, desires, needs... nothing. There are plenty of brains in the animal kingdom that don't produce anything other than basic instinct. So what makes a human different? It definitely isn't the complexity of the brain, because other than some differences in size our brain is no more or less complex than that of other mammals. Computers function similarly to a human brain- electrical impulses supply alternating "yes" and "no" answers to basic questions and something happens as a result. What makes the human different?

The animating force is what I was referring to. Personality, rational thought, desire, ingenuity, none of these things are born from chemical process. If they were, the insects of this planet, who possess the same chemical functions as we do, would have decided we were unfit to rule this planet and exterminated us long ago. These things all require energy. Compelling a mass of cells that are breaking down other material for energy to work together to do something, the mere fact that we're even having this debate, speaks to the notion that there is energy being expended that isn't chemical or electrical.

Also, what makes you so sure there isn't anything there? As trite as it may be to say this, I've never seen my brain... so how do I know it's even there? I've never seen you... so do you really exist? Science has yet to measure the soul... so is it there?

I'd rather spend my life believing in something positive, such as an afterlife or continued existence, than wandering around crippled from the brain down because I can't stand the idea that one day nature will do what it does to all creatures and that- oh no!- I'm no exception to the rules.
 
Shadow of Bucephalus

Shadow of Bucephalus

Banned
Banned
Fruitythebeetle said:
the world is going to shit, the afterlife, souls, or even god is not real, and everything i look forward to for the future has been dis-proven by science. should i live or should i even accept death?

why does does reality fucking suck? why can't my brain be hooked up to virtual reality so i may live in a virtual afterlife? oh of course, scientist say it cost too much money and will take 100 years to perfect. human rights will take 100 years to happen, the world not going to shit is gonna take 100 years to happen. and the average human lifespan is 90 years at best. that's if i eat healthy and pray i don't get an incurable dieseae within 50 years.

well....at least i can make the most out it i guess.
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While 'Death' doesn't bother me, HOW I may die, sometimes will.

As-for living?
Only 'You' can determine what value this life has, and how you'll invest your energies with it.
Lots of folks find solace in religion. I sometimes envy 'em.
Philosophy is great if worshiping a Deity/ies isn't your thing. Focusing on how to live life, the perspectives that promote right from wrong, peace vs turmoil, isn't a bad Path.
If you're purely of the scientific mindset? No God(s), Philosophy is an interesting topic, but not for you? Atoms and molecules are what catches your fancies?
Consider this (and I have Dr. Neil DeGrasse Tyson for this):
We are the stuff galaxies are made of.
Looking at 'Life' from that perspective?
* Low whistle *

Now, go indulge yerself in a favorite food, good drink, and the company of loved family/friends!

;-)
 
CaptainCool

CaptainCool

Lady of the lake
Saurex said:
Personality, rational thought, desire, ingenuity, none of these things are born from chemical process.
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
You are making claims about how the brain works while the best of the best who work in this field have yet to figure out how everything in the brain works.

Then you go on to say that insects should have the same features because their brains work the same way? No, that simply isn't true! The nervous systems of insects are so damn simple they are basically biological robots.

What you did there is called an argumentum ad ignorantiam. A logical fallicy that Wikipedia describes as an "appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance represents "a lack of contrary evidence")".
Just because we don't know something yet or just because what you say is impossible to falsify (which is an argument in favor of you being wrong by the way) that doesn't make what you say true.

Life is just a complex mess of chemical reactions that keep themselves going in a constant struggle against entropy. Nothing more, nothing less.
We aren't special. Get over it.
 
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