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Increase security in furry breakrooms

Elf-cat

I judge a book by it's cover, & I'm 75% correct!
I suggest that someone to take it into their own hands to increase security in the furry breakrooms of all conventions and have hidden cameras installed without the knowledge of any of the fursuiters except for the fine print of the flyers and information pamphlets upon entering the convention zone.

Fine print: There may or may not be hidden cameras in the furry breakroom, your personal belongings are your responsibility, we are not responsible for stolen objects, but we will try our best to assist you if your belongings are stolen so don't hesitate to ask us for help.
 

Yakamaru

Bad Jokes Inc.
 

Simo

Professional Watermelon Farmer
As a card carrying member of the ACLU, I say no! There's been almost no problems at fury cons, with the exception of Chicago. I say, keep firearms, and explosives out, but let furies be. Let them be safe, fun, all-night, crazy, pajama party nights, and skip all this police and violence stuff. Has not been a problem, and don't let paranoia destroy ya.
 

Elf-cat

I judge a book by it's cover, & I'm 75% correct!
To prevent fursuit head theft, those items are worth twice as much than my computer!
 

nerdbat

Green butt of reason
To prevent fursuit head theft, those items are worth twice as much than my computer!
Fursuit heads are weirdest things to steal. Wearing it yourself in public is like screaming "I'm a thief", and it doesn't make you any good anyway, not if you don't have a full set already. You also can't really sell it inside the community without revealing your identity, and you can't sell it outside of community either, since nobody needs an oversized mascot head. Don't be such a paranoid.
 

Yakamaru

Bad Jokes Inc.
To prevent fursuit head theft, those items are worth twice as much than my computer!
Stealing a fursuit/fursuit head? Really? If you can't secure your own shit and trust the ones who are near you, don't bother taking it with you publically in the first place.

Besides. I doubt very much people would bother stealing this kind of crap in the first place.

1. The moment you find out you can issue a warrant/theft claim.
2. People most likely recognize the suit and parts
3. Have friends who you know you can trust with your stuff
4. ?????
5. Profit
6. Theft avoided
 

Elf-cat

I judge a book by it's cover, & I'm 75% correct!
Thank you for clarifying Simo, I have truly learned something new!
 

Zaedrin

Member
"There's been almost no problems at fury cons, with the exception of Chicago."

On that note, I want to put it on record that I hope Ryan Hill gets shivved in his dickhole with a rusty spoon.
 

JinxiFox

Insanity can be such a beautiful thing.
Maybe it would be like stealing the skull of a hated enemy and you'd place it on your (It'd have to be massive) bookshelf and stare up at it at night.

And then eventually it starts talking...
Then you have other problems than sticky fingers.
 

JinxiFox

Insanity can be such a beautiful thing.
I agree with everyone else. I doubt anyone is going to walk off with a head, in the middle of a con. Besides, I would feel really weirded out to know that there "may or may not" be hidden cameras.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Hey, if theres a greater market for security just to ensure heads are on the right shoulders, id be more inclined to go to cons :p
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
As a card carrying member of the ACLU, I say no! There's been almost no problems at fury cons, with the exception of Chicago. I say, keep firearms, and explosives out, but let furies be. Let them be safe, fun, all-night, crazy, pajama party nights, and skip all this police and violence stuff. Has not been a problem, and don't let paranoia destroy ya.
Sorry, but my shoulder holster will be under my suit. Too many crazy Americans running around trying to hurt people to not go armed.
 

Simo

Professional Watermelon Farmer
I'm definitely not going to any cons that allow guns in the con area...AC doesn't, and I am 99% Chicago does not, as well...and I'd happily report anyone in violation of the rules. I'm not a fan of guns; nothing personal. I just don't need to have them at a furry con, and, as far as I know, cons do not allow them...
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
I'm definitely not going to any cons that allow guns in the con area...AC doesn't, and I am 99% Chicago does not, as well...and I'd happily report anyone in violation of the rules. I'm not a fan of guns; nothing personal. I just don't need to have them at a furry con, and, as far as I know, cons do not allow them...
Lol. That's why they call them"concealed carry license".
 

Simo

Professional Watermelon Farmer
Though this does not apply anywhere, and everywhere, and definitely not an Anthrocon. The issue came up before. Note that they didn't allow this at the RNC, either; the rules in various cities and at privately sponsored events do not automatically or always grant any right of concealed carry.

Not to mention, I think having a loaded weapon under a bulky fur suit, which limits both motion and vision, is just not the wisest idea. Carrying a gun on your person in plain sight, I could almost see...but in a fursuit? I don't mean to be mean, or start a fight, but this just seems like a bad idea, to me. Nothing personal, I just don't see the need. Hotels and convention ceners have decent security, and I can't recall any major conventions of whatever kind, being disrupted by this or that random shooter.

Anthrocon Weapon Policy: (Pittsburgh, PA)



Weapons Policy

"No actual weapons or any item that can be easily mistaken for one may be carried either openly or concealed at any time on Westin or on Convention Center property, regardless of any government permits which you may possess. Exceptions may be made only for duly appointed law enforcement officers by prior arrangement with the Security Chief. Personal pocket knives with single-edged blades less than 4 inches long are permitted.

Realistic weapon replicas are permitted as part of a costume only during costume events such as the Masquerade and Fursuit Parade, and must be appropriately peace-bonded; see the Security Chief for instruction on how to do so. They must be cased or otherwise secured when being carried outside of costume."

Anthrocon Standards of Conduct (v.3.6) | Anthrocon 2017: Take Me Out To The Ballgame

Mid West Fur Fest Policy: (Suburban Chicago)

WEAPONS & REPLICAS

No functioning or realistic appearing firearm may be carried or displayed in convention space at any time. If the weapon can fire any projectile or cause annoyance to others, it is not allowed.

Edged weapons may be worn as a costume accessory only if they are covered by a sheath that covers all sharp edges and points. The weapon must also be secured from removal by a cord or tie (often referred to as 'peace bonding'). Temporary exceptions may be made for newly purchased weapons carried DIRECTLY to one's room or out of the hotel.

Pocket knives with single-edged blades less than 5 inches in length are exempt.

Brandishing any weapon for any reason is not allowed, and will result in the confiscation of the weapon for the duration of the convention, and a warning from security. Repeated warnings will result in revocation of membership.

The Hyatt Regency O’Hare does not permit firearms of any kind of their property. There are no exceptions to this policy, even if you have a concealed-carry license.

If you are unsure of the acceptability of an item, we encourage you to contact Convention Security prior to the convention for advisement.

BLFC, (Reno, Nevada)

Prop Weapons/Weapons

"This is a casino; they take weapons very seriously. If we can't tell that a weapon is fake from ten feet away, do not bring it. No live steel (anything that can have an edge, whether or not it currently does), absolutely no guns, and nothing that could easily be mistaken for a live blade or a gun. Water guns, air soft guns, silly string, or any other projectiles are not allowed in the convention area; it's too easy for them to damage hotel property or other guests' property."

~

These are pretty much the three biggest cons, and I think most all others have very similar rules.

I duuno; I just can't see a con with a bunch of armed fursuiters at all being a good idea; it just seems to invite trouble, and accidents.
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

Guest
Well. I don't always follow the rules, especially when it has to do with personal safety. And trusting a part time security guard with anything us risky. Sorry mate, I do know the rules and the laws. Doesn't mean I have to follow them. I look at my sidearm as I would a condom, I would rather have one and not need it, then need one and not have it. And the way our country is tearing itself apart, no place will be "safe" before too long. You ever shoot? Been in the military? Have a wife and kids? I can think of a thousand reasons why I should carry one, but can't think of a single reason not to. Sorry if I offended your fragile sensibilities.
 

bhutrflai

Okami The Wolf is my crazy half!
After having lived in downtown Atlanta for a couple yrs, and in one of the most ghetto areas of Metro Atl for many yrs, I can safely say that Crazy is everywhere! And just because it hasn't happened at a con, doesn't mean it won't. There's alot of furry haters out there & if they get a wild hair to start trouble, it settles me to know that my mate has his gun on him. And if my costume allows it, I carry mine. Rather be safe than sorry. Im not going down without a fight.And it's not just us we are looking out for. We will stand for any innocents under the threat of violence.
 

Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Im comfortable using nonlethal tools and techniques, however they tend to lack in serious range.
A 5 inch blade works alright for me, though.

Lets just hope no one goes around blasting people waving the white flag, you know?
 

Simo

Professional Watermelon Farmer
Well. I don't always follow the rules, especially when it has to do with personal safety. And trusting a part time security guard with anything us risky. Sorry mate, I do know the rules and the laws. Doesn't mean I have to follow them. I look at my sidearm as I would a condom, I would rather have one and not need it, then need one and not have it. And the way our country is tearing itself apart, no place will be "safe" before too long. You ever shoot? Been in the military? Have a wife and kids? I can think of a thousand reasons why I should carry one, but can't think of a single reason not to. Sorry if I offended your fragile sensibilities.

Nope, my sensibilities aren't fragile at all : I've lived in some pretty rough parts of Baltimore for a few decades, and been fine without a weapon; I've been able to take care of myself.

Though I have shot for hunting, that was years ago, and living in the city, I see no need to.

If you wanna break the laws you helped uphold via your service to your nation, that's your own decision; I certainly can't condone it though.

And still, I think it's rather paranoid to feel you need to have to have a gun at a furry con. Anyway, they are not legal at cons; this has come up time and again on these forums. So many people seem to be so taken in by paranoia, these days, when overall, the homicide rate has been steadily falling. And I don't see our country as 'falling apart', aside from the rich getting richer, and a lot of folks getting left behind.....but that's all I have to say, I'm not gonna argue any more on a furry forum, where I go to have fun.

If ya wanna argue more on this topic, argue with the people who make the rules at the cons, and see what they have to say about the matter.
 
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Toby_Morpheus

Hello, Proto
Nope, my sensibilities aren't fragile at all : I've lived in some pretty rough parts of Baltimore for a few decades, and been fine without a weapon; I've been able to take care of myself.

Though I have shot for hunting, that was years ago, and living in the city, I see no need to.

If you wanna break the laws you helped uphold via your service to your nation, that's your own decision; I certainly can't condone it though.

And still, I think it's rather paranoid to feel you need to have to have a gun at a furry con. Anyway, they are not legal at cons; this has come up time and again on these forums. So many people seem to be so taken in by paranoia, these days, when overall, the homicide rate has been steadily falling. And I don't see our country as 'falling apart', aside from the rich getting richer, and a lot of folks getting left behind.....but that's all I have to say, I'm not gonna argue any more on a furry forum, where I go to have fun.

If ya wanna argue more on this topic, argue with the people who make the rules at the cons, and see what they have to say about the matter.
I don't think it's paranoid to just have one.
It would, however, be paranoid to have it out and in your hands at all time.

That's like saying it's paranoid to always carry a first aid kit with you when you're trained in it.
Sure, it's an extra step that may not be necessary, but when it comes down to it, someone can be hurt and first responders save lives.
 
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