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Iran War

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
I think the US is more likely to tangle with Syria than Iran. We're more likely to play silent supporter to the Arab Spring igniting in Iran.
But then it wouldn't be the 'Arab' Spring anymore :V
 

Dragonfurry

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What about Israel's nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction, hmm? :F

At least half of that was Bush's superstition.
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
What about Israel's nuclear, biological and chemical weapons of mass destruction, hmm? :F
Israel is every much a pit of barbaric religious fanatics and nationalist militants as any of its neighbors. Its formation was a mistake from the very beginning.
 

Dragonfurry

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Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
This is tasteless. :V
 

VoidBat

Member
Iran is just being a giant, butthurt baby who got caught with it's fingers in the Nuclear Weapons Program cookie jar by the IAEA and Amhurrica.
 

Aetius

It's Me Gordon, Barney from Black Mesa
No, they just took another ethnic group's homeland for themselves. :V

Then again, so did everyone in the middle east. :v

The Palestinians were like a wealthy tourist that got lost in Compton.... ;_;
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless
Israel doesn't go around torching embassies :v

Iran doesn't go around launching air strikes on its neighbours - whereas Israel is notorious for it (Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq...).

(And before anyone raises the Iran-Iraq Gulf War, Iraq attacked Iran first in that one.)
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless
Iran is just being a giant, butthurt baby who got caught with it's fingers in the Nuclear Weapons Program cookie jar by the IAEA and Amhurrica.

Whereas Israel have been lock, stock and barrel inside that Nuclear Weapons Program cookie jar for decades with American connivance, not to mention the recent deal between the USA and India for nuclear technology transfer despite India being outside the Non-Proliferation Treaty and being a nuclear weapon state.

Double standards, much?
 

Corto

Member
Yes please let's turn this into an Israel vs Palestine thread, those are always a bunch of fun.
 

Tango

*drinking your brain juices*
Iran doesn't go around launching air strikes on its neighbours - whereas Israel is notorious for it (Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq...).

(And before anyone raises the Iran-Iraq Gulf War, Iraq attacked Iran first in that one.)

^This!

Also, when Iraq was building a nuclear reactor Israel popped it with an air strike. President Reagan about pooped himself in surprise when he found out about it (Iraq was our ally back then. And yes, Saddam was in control at the time). The US has a history of turning a blind eye to Israel's antics in that region. Even when it strikes out at US allies.
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
^This!

Also, when Iraq was building a nuclear reactor Israel popped it with an air strike. President Reagan about pooped himself in surprise when he found out about it (Iraq was our ally back then. And yes, Saddam was in control at the time). The US has a history of turning a blind eye to Israel's antics in that region. Even when it strikes out at US allies.
Because their country was recklessly founded as an 'apology' for the Holocaust. Don't you know Jews can do no wrong?
 

Corto

Member
Ok since my sarcasm is obviously too high brow for you people to understand without a smiley stuck at the end, I'll be more direct: cut it out with Israel and Palestine. Mention them in regards to how they would influence an eventual Iran war (or whatever this thread is about) but for Pete's sake stop derailing it with that tangent or I'm locking and infracting.
 
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Delta Fox

Adolf Clitler
Fuck Ayatollah Assaholah, those fundamentalist bastards fucked over an awesome country. Western opposition to Iran's nuclear program (something which Iranians support) is putting the reformists on the same side as the conservative government, and killing chances for a peaceful transition to a liberal democracy.
 

VoidBat

Member
Whereas Israel have been lock, stock and barrel inside that Nuclear Weapons Program cookie jar for decades with American connivance, not to mention the recent deal between the USA and India for nuclear technology transfer despite India being outside the Non-Proliferation Treaty and being a nuclear weapon state.

Double standards, much?
Could be because India and Israel have never stormed a US embassy, with ayatolla Khomaniac praising the hostage takers for such a deed. Just sayin'
 

Mayfurr

Mostly Harmless
Could be because India and Israel have never stormed a US embassy, with ayatolla Khomaniac praising the hostage takers for such a deed. Just sayin'

Because the US has never interfered with the internal politics of Iran, and has NEVER worked to overthrow a legitimate democratically-elected Iranian government - oh, wait.

Well at least the new ruler of Iran after the coup was leading a democratic government - oops.

Okay, even if the Shah was running Iran like a kingdom, at least he was a fair, honest, competent and just ruler who didn't run a feared secret police to crack down on dissidents? Umm, no.

Considering the US (and the UK) actively interfered with Iranian affairs in the past to place a virtual dictator in charge just so their respective oil companies could continue making maximum profits off Iranian oil, one can hardly blame Iranians from having a rather suspect view of Western governments - and people in that part of the world have VERY long memories.

The ultimate irony regarding the Iranian nuclear program and nuclear fuel reprocessing that's the cause of all the fuss? It was started under the Shah with the enthusiastic co-operation of the USA:
President Gerald Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete 'nuclear fuel cycle'. At the time, Richard Cheney was the White House Chief of Staff, and Donald Rumsfeld was the Secretary of Defense. (emphasis added)

And the reasons the US supported Iran, an oil-rich country, having nuclear technology are the SAME reasons Iran today says it needs a nuclear program:
The Ford strategy paper said the "introduction of nuclear power will both provide for the growing needs of Iran's economy and free remaining oil reserves for export or conversion to petrochemicals. (emphasis added)"
 

Kellie Gator

Moral Minority
Iran war? I think it depends greatly on who wins the 2012 election. New Gingrich is a no-no who should be avoided, not as sure about the others.

Iran at one time did have a democracy; then America and Britian started a coup, overthrowing him. Then they installed a pro-western government, the people got pissed and overthrew them in 1979. Now we have modern day Iran. Which could be considered a mess that the US imposed on itself.

So day say that fundies screwed over Iran, it was America and it's allies that brought on this to themselves. Kinda like how they sent millions upon millions of dollars of weapons and training to Afghanistan, along with Pakistan.
And the government wonders why it's country keeps getting subjected to terrorism.
 

Torrijos-sama

The Artist Formerly Known as Jesusfish
I bet 9,001 Armenian Dram that a war with Iran or Syria starts in the next 5 years, regardless of who's president.
If it's a Democrat, it's going to start from trying to be covert about things, then having everything uncovered (cue the actions pursued by our military like Operation Eagle Claw, and other "secret operations" that got shat on, and gave us justification for ground offensives).

If it's a Republican, it will be a total war that was started when the other side attacked one of the ships we were sailing to try to provoke shit as we always do (Think Gulf of Sidra or Operation Southern Focus).
 
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