Is "The Lion King" furry? or Just a talking animals animation?

[Arcadium]

I'm laughing at how people think anything anthro = Furry.

It's called Anthropomorphic. Anthro = Making something not human appear human.

Mailbox. Animate it with mouth, eyes, humor, etc, it's anthro. That has nothing to do with Furries or the Furry fandom, now doesn't it?

I rest my case. Disney isn't a freaking Furry movie factory, there a kids film studio.

 

[BrothBone]

Good, now you understand



Seriously, it took you this fucking long???

Yes I did.
I just posted this to try to break the ice and conforming I made a mistake saying in another thread that the liong king was "One of the most memorable furry love scenes"
My ice ended up melting and evaporating by all the blazing fire.

 

[Ceuper]

You guys are awesome but a little pedantic sometimes. Perhaps we should rest this case with the real definition of furry, compliments to Merriam Webster.

furry

Main Entry: fur·ry
Pronunciation: \ˈfər-ē\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): fur·ri·er; fur·ri·est
Date: circa 1674
1 : consisting of or resembling fur <animals with furry coats>
2 : covered with fur
3 : thick in quality <spoke with a furry voice>

 

[Ozriel]

You guys are awesome but a little pedantic sometimes. Perhaps we should rest this case with the real definition of furry, compliments to Merriam Webster.

That has nothing to do with the fandom, your argument is invalid.


Furry (Furrie): A fandom based around the interest in anthro-animals in art and literature.

The fandom itself has artists who cater to the fandom already, so do not add on a stigma to things that aren't apart of the fandom by labeling something like scooby doo "Furry". It isnt.

Such artists who make furry art for the fandom would be Nylak, Blotch, hazard, Dragoneer, etc...etc...

Each of the art that gets created is kind of unique, not copies of the same character, such as Sonic, Spyro, or the Chesire cat.

Characters like Simba, Spyro, Crash bandicoot, Sonic, Balto, Tramp, Lady, Donald duck, and Bugs Bunny are not "Made" for the fandom and were not meant to be Furry-Fandom Characters.

My character is made for the fandom, hence it is a furry.

 

[BrothBone]

Good, now you understand



Seriously, it took you this fucking long???

Yes I did undestand. I wanted to break the ice and wanted to confirm that I did a mistake saying in another thread that the love scene in TLK was "One of the most memorable furry love scenes"

Unfortunately the ice melted to fast and evaporated by the fire that kept on burning. Oh well.

 

[VVhiteWolf]

I think this is more of a personal viewpoint issue.

While Lion King, Sonic, and Digi/Pokemorphs may be drawn alot by people in the furry fandom, I do not consider them furry.

It is my belief that the furry fandom should be anthropomorphic animals, none of this Sonic fan characters or Pokemorphs.

 

[Ceuper]

I'm curious as to why exactly this is such a passionate argument. I can only imagine that it's kind of an identity thing - we furries only have so much to hang on to that we can proud of, it must be that calling such a big box, mainstream title like Lion King 'furry' would almost be blasphemous. I'm sure there's also the stigma that there are slews of ignorants who come in to the fandom screaming "BUHHH LION KING FURRRREEEZZZ!!2". Ignorance on the part of others toward something we take so personally must be like associating every gay person with rainbow flags and leather tights. It's just offensive. Sound correct?

I really didn't mean to offend, friends. :3

 

[Gavrill]

More like Lion King was never intended to be for furries. So if I worked at Disney, I'd be all "Hell no, furfags. You ain't claiming that shit."

 

[Ozriel]

I'm curious as to why exactly this is such a passionate argument. I can only imagine that it's kind of an identity thing - we furries only have so much to hang on to that we can proud of, it must be that calling such a big box, mainstream title like Lion King 'furry' would almost be blasphemous. I'm sure there's also the stigma that there are slews of ignorants who come in to the fandom screaming "BUHHH LION KING FURRRREEEZZZ!!2". Ignorance on the part of others toward something we take so personally must be like associating every gay person with rainbow flags and leather tights. It's just offensive. Sound correct?

I really didn't mean to offend, friends. :3

If you truely honor "The Lion King" and other cartoons, then you wouldn't want it to be labled with a stigma...which the fandom has as a whole.

 

[Vekke]

If zaush makes his movie, that will be a furry movie. directed to furries. made by a furry

Lion King is not that. Its a movie that furries love (and sometimes rape), but it wasn't made with that specific purpose in mind

 

[Roose Hurro]

Furries are anthropomorphic animals.

Anthropomorphic animals are not furries.

Understand this and your life will be a bit better.

But they are FURRY (unless they've been shaved, or never had fur in the first place)...

Isn't this a bit like debating 'what is art'? Or what constitutes yiff? What if some of the people who worked on the Lion King were 'furries'? If 12% of them were, would the Lion King be 12% furry? Or maybe furry is in the eye of the beholder?

Who the fuck cares?

Bingo...

Yet another dimension can be placed on this question if you ask yourself; what would happen if a furry on the aforementioned video game forum observed this image? Would that make it furry? Evidently furriness may also be entirely in the eye of the beholder. If this is correct, the previous argument is rendered moot, because no matter the furriness of the photographer, captioner or user, the ultimate furriness of the image is determined by whoever is viewing it. If that were the case, the Lion King would be a furry movie if a furry watched it, and a regular movie if your grandma did.

This is the dilemma. I hope I have helped us come one step closer to understanding.

Pretty much how it seems to work...

Whatever you call TLK, I'd say it's definitely 'of furry interest', as WikiFur likes to put it. Essentially: it's the sort of thing many furries like, and are a fan of.
It can stand for the fandom and be subject of the fandom, even if it's not part of the fandom.

True...

Since when does voicing your opinion on a matter make you retarded? I consider The Lion King furry, personally, and I respect the opinions of others that don't.

I don't think any one definition explains the word "furry." It means something different to everyone. What is considered furry and what is not considered to be furry is all in the eye of the beholder. To me, "furries" are those that have a love of art featuring animals with humanistic qualities, or anthropomorphism, whether the animal walks on two legs or four. Now, you, PriestRevan, may have an entirely different view on what a "furry" is, and I have no problem with that, nor do I think you're are "retarded" for thinking differently.

Same here....

As your second paragraph states, "furry is all in the eye of the beholder." I consider anything with fur to be "furry", anthromorphed or not.

What you're witnessing is one of the long-term arguments present within this fandom--two dissenting camps who will never see eye-to-eye because there is little involved that has a formal definition that everyone can agree upon:

Camp 1:
"Furry is concerned with anthropomorphic animals therefore any depiction of an anthropomorphic animal is automatically furry".

Camp 2:
"For something to be considered furry, it must be either (a)created within the fandom, or (b) created specifically with the fandom in mind".

Thus the question cannot have an answer that works for everyone involved--it depends on your personal opinion, just like question of "what is a furry?". One camp wants to include as much as possible, the other seeks to protect mainstream entertainment product from being contaminated by association with the paraphilias known to exist within the fandom. Take from that what you will.

---PCJ

Nice separation, RailRide... I agree.

Opinion or fact.

Opinion or fact.

Hm, let's go with opinion!

I still want to know why an anthropomorphic rock isn't considered furry.

Because it doesn't have fur...

You guys are awesome but a little pedantic sometimes. Perhaps we should rest this case with the real definition of furry, compliments to Merriam Webster.

furry

Main Entry: fur·ry
Pronunciation: \'f?r-e\
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): fur·ri·er; fur·ri·est
Date: circa 1674
1 : consisting of or resembling fur <animals with furry coats>
2 : covered with fur
3 : thick in quality <spoke with a furry voice>

I'd say over-pedantic...

I think this is more of a personal viewpoint issue.

While Lion King, Sonic, and Digi/Pokemorphs may be drawn alot by people in the furry fandom, I do not consider them furry.

It is my belief that the furry fandom should be anthropomorphic animals, none of this Sonic fan characters or Pokemorphs.

Yes, as is pretty much every other issue ever discussed on this forum...

 

[Gavrill]

We're taling furry as in the fandom, not the adjective, Roose...

 

[Roose Hurro]

We're taling furry as in the fandom, not the adjective, Roose...

And I'm talking both, plus adding/emphasizing "furrie" is all a point of view... while "furry" isn't.

 

[Tryp]

The Lion King is all part of the Liberal-Hollywood-Terrorist-Vatican-Gay-Queen Elizabeth-Mafia plan to assert New World Order!






























XP Just kidding.

 

[AethWolf]

Within the context of the furry fandom, the word "furry" has a metric butt-ton of definitions. One of these definitions, "genre defined by the use of anthropomorphic animals", is particularly relevant to this discussion. When speaking furry-to-furry, it is totally legitimate to say "The Lion King is a furry movie" as it has the exact same meaning as saying "The Lion King is a movie that has anthropomorphic animals". The only difference between the two is the word count.

Is it really that hard to sort out?

 

[Attaman]

Considering that means God Emperor Leto is now a Furry, I demand to see Rule /34/ of it. If there is no Rule /34/ of Furry God Emperor Leto, it cannot exist. If it cannot exist, theory = debunked.

 

[Roose Hurro]

Within the context of the furry fandom, the word "furry" has a metric butt-ton of definitions. One of these definitions, "genre defined by the use of anthropomorphic animals", is particularly relevant to this discussion. When speaking furry-to-furry, it is totally legitimate to say "The Lion King is a furry movie" as it has the exact same meaning as saying "The Lion King is a movie that has anthropomorphic animals". The only difference between the two is the word count.

Is it really that hard to sort out?

No, it isn't...

 

[Ruko]

So why is Lion King considered a furry movie when Egyptian gods, a talking rock, or even Black Beauty not considered furry?

Because those things aren't fuckab-*sacked*

I dunno man, rocks are pretty murry.

*gags herself*

It's because rocks aren't of interest to furs. However, just because a furry likes something (anthro or non) shouldn't make it furry. For example, say I like soccer. That doesn't make soccer furry.

Furry(as in for the fandom) characters are anthro animal characters made for us. A rock with human attributes is furry because furry deals with anthro animals made for a specific fandom.

hahaha. This whole is-a-rock-a-furry derailment has me rolling. :lol:

 

[Not A Fox]

Why do you all have to categorize every damned thing every possible thing as furry or not furry?

Why do you have do that?

Why must every last single thing involve us when it comes to cartoon animals?

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Randy-Darkshade]

Why do you all have to categorize every damned thing every possible thing as furry or not furry?

Why do you have do that?

Why must every last single thing involve us when it comes to cartoon animals?

What the hell is wrong with you?

You are assuming everyone catagorizes every anthropomorphic animal as furry. Me....If i say furry, doesn't mean i am catagorizing everything as "furry", It is my way to "reference" anthro's. As it has been mentioned allready, the word "furry" has many meanings, one of which is "SLANG" for anthro's.

To put it even simpler, i use the word 'furry" as SLANG to refere to anthropomorphic animals.

 

[Roose Hurro]

You are assuming everyone catagorizes every anthropomorphic animal as furry. Me....If i say furry, doesn't mean i am catagorizing everything as "furry", It is my way to "reference" anthro's. As it has been mentioned allready, the word "furry" has many meanings, one of which is "SLANG" for anthro's.

To put it even simpler, i use the word 'furry" as SLANG to refere to anthropomorphic animals.

Bingo...

 

[Ozriel]

ITT: Newfag furries are a cancer.

 

[Ozriel]

You are assuming everyone catagorizes every anthropomorphic animal as furry. Me....If i say furry, doesn't mean i am catagorizing everything as "furry", It is my way to "reference" anthro's. As it has been mentioned allready, the word "furry" has many meanings, one of which is "SLANG" for anthro's.

To put it even simpler, i use the word 'furry" as SLANG to refere to anthropomorphic animals.

Stop that. >:{

 

[Randy-Darkshade]

Stop that. >:{

I will refere to what ever i want to, with what ever words i see fit. Id some people don't like me, or any other furrie refereing to an anthro in the slang form of "furry" Then it isn't us furs with a problem. But those who don't like it.

This whole argument over "Is it furry or is it not" is pathetic. What ever happend to "freedom of speach"? because it appears to me, that it doesn't exist to some people. Come on people, it doesn't matter what the fuck they are called, we all know what e are talking about.


So really does it fuckin matter?

 

[Trpdwarf]

I will refere to what ever i want to, with what ever words i see fit. Id some people don't like me, or any other furrie refereing to an anthro in the slang form of "furry" Then it isn't us furs with a problem. But those who don't like it.

This whole argument over "Is it furry or is it not" is pathetic. What ever happend to "freedom of speach"? because it appears to me, that it doesn't exist to some people. Come on people, it doesn't matter what the fuck they are called, we all know what e are talking about.


So really does it fuckin matter?

I agree with Zeke. Stop that.

And I and others will call people out like you on your laziness and obviousness to how retarded it is to call everything anthro furry regardless of intent.

The problem is not us, the problem is people like you who are told about why you don't call non furry anthro things furry, and you are explained to the consequences to the fandom and to non-fandom members and you just don't care.

Selfish cancer, stop that!

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence when stupid things are said.