Is there any reason this wouldn't work?

[Jopossum]

Pattern idea: see image. Fold along black lines so Seam A goes to other blue line and Seam B to other red line to form the legs, then sew in the stomach /chest.
Zip can go along the side of the stomach piece.
This way the minimum number of seams can be used and the whole thing can be cut from one large piece of faux fur.
(Note: I am getting a very large piece soon)

Update; this doesn't work, don't worry, I didn't find out through trial and error, but just some more reaearch. The pattern needs to be shaped differently to accommodate one's butt.

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

Well, can you make this happen with a DTD? That's the only way you'll know if you can get it to happen. Looks doable but if it were me, I would at least do it in a cheap muslin material first before committing to cutting up your fur. Remember, you can cut more off but you can't cut more on.

Another thought; will this affect the lay of the fur? Don't want your fur laying sideways. Not natural at all.

 

[Jopossum]

do it in a cheap muslin material first

excellent idea! my plan was to use an old t-shrit and trousers as a pattern, affix them with safety pins around the middle so they would be like a body suit, maybe also make them fit a little closer to the body then use them as a pattern.

will this affect the lay of the fur

Oh I didn't think of that at all, thanks for pointing it out. I haven't received my order of fur yet so I don't know if it will go "long-ways" or "short-ways" if the lay means I'd have to cut this pattern on the shorter dimension then it won't fit. then I'll have to make the suit in more parts. flippin' gosh darn. that might be my idea down the drain but we shall see.

Thanks very much for your input I really appreciate this!
Thoughts?

 

[Glossolalia]

It looks like the pattern is pretty flat and doesn't leave any space for the butt, which could be a problem with non-stretchy fabric like faux fur. Unless you make it very loose and baggy, you might find it hard to sit or bend at the waist. (I might be wrong though, I haven't made a body suit before)

 

[Jopossum]

That was more of a general idea of the concept, not the exact pattern I'll be using.
I was thinking about this and intended to simply use a pair of trousers as reference for that part.

 

[Jopossum]

Got the fur today! it lays the right way to do this! I'll have to compare a trouser pattern as there may be some shape to the outside of the leg that my first concept would not be able to conform to without an additional cut. we shall see :3

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

I would highly recommend using muslin to make a trial fit/pattern before cuttin' that fur. A DTD to get the inital shape for the muslin would be even better.

If you look at your concept drawing, the part that goes into the crotch has to have that extra material both front and back. As drawn, you have extra material front only. That won't work.

Remember, you can cut more off but you can't cut more on.

 

[Jopossum]

the part that goes into the crotch has to have that extra material both front and back

can you show me an example of that? I'm not really sure what you mean with reference to my concept pattern. (note: not final pattern)

 

[Jopossum]

disregard that, I fluff socks.
Having looked at some trouser patterns I see now. It has to conform to the 3 dimensional curves of the body, and to do that trousers are shaped like this; (see attached image)

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

disregard that, I fluff socks.
Having looked at some trouser patterns I see now. It has to conform to the 3 dimensional curves of the body, and to do that trousers are shaped like this; (see attached image)

Okay, glad you understand that. I brought this up because the wife unit and I purchased some 1/8" neporene surf suits when we lived in California. They were purchased to water ski into the fall in relative comfort. The suits were probably cut like you intended to cut your fur and they didn't fit worth poop. When you laid them out flat, they looked odd and I remember then having minimal seams. Sent them back and got another pair of suits that fit nice, but paid more for them and yes, they had more seams to them.

 

[Jopossum]

so I made a DTD.
worked okayish, mostly I wanted to see how the crotch layed (snicker) but it's incredibly difficult to get it to lay flat, also I'm wondering how do people make allowance for bending? I've seen fursuits with full ROM but it doesn't seem like I'd even be able to bend a little without popping a seam.

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

I do what I call "Reverse Super Darts" in the back, above the rumpus and below the shoulders, three of them. I start at the side seams and make the dart zero at the edges and add slowly to about one inch in the middle. Yeah, it plays hell with the pattern but wait, there's a reason. After the suit is made, I sew in a 2" mesh grid on the diagonal, of elastic thread on the inside. At the end of each pass, I pull up an inch or so before tying off. This takes what was a $h!t show and makes it lay down nice and pretty. The lay of the fur hides the puckering just fine. When you bend over, the elastic allows the fur to spread, then as you stand up, it pulls the extra material together. A side benefit is it pulls in the waist nice and pretty, no bagging.

You can do this with elbows and knees to get a better lay and if you add the reverse super darts to the outside of the elbows and front of the knees, it gives the suit a more natural appearance. Can also do that to pull in wrist and ankle openings.

Hope this helps.

 

[Jopossum]

So my second weird pattern idea actually works! Basically split the fursuit down the middle, veritcally, so the seam runs down your spine and up the front. One seam on each leg on the inside aswell. (see image) Tried it with muslin/old bedsheet, it fitted really well and the crotch seam seemed to lay really nice! The big problem I'm having though is it's too tight and I bent over just to see, and yep, split the seam right along the butt! Not really sure how best to "widen" everything as there's some measurements which I want to maintain and some parts which won't scale so easily.
I'm planning to try a version with more fabric added down the front/back join (see attached image), so each half will be wider. Will post results.

I do what I call "Reverse Super Darts" in the back, above the rumpus and below the shoulders, three of them. I
Hope this helps.

I'm going to need some pictures of what you mean there. I think I get you but I'm not sure. Do you mean the darts run horizontal? Please do share, I want to make this as good as possible and learn all those little tricks of the trade from masters such as yourself :3 thanks for all your help so far!

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

Basically right, the addition ends up being these areas that are literally nothing at the sides and flare out to about 1" in the center of the back. Trying to take pictures is a no go, the inside of The Old Warhorse is all dark seal brown so my camera can't do much with the contrast. I'll try to draw out what I'm talking about and upload it so you can see the method to my madness.

So when you bend over, the sides don't need to grow, it's the back that has to grow/stretch with your body. How much is governed by your own body. Take a seamstress tape measure and tape one end to the back of a thigh. Hold it up your back and find a point on a shoulder as reference. Note the measurement at that point. Now, bend over, still holding the tape but let it slide through your fingers. Make sure it's over the widest part of your butt cheek to be accurate. Note the new length at full bend. That's about how much you need to add to the back to keep from popping seams.

As soon as I can put together a drawing, I'll post it.

BTW, your pattern really looks like a pattern I have laying around here for a dancer's body suit, without the extra chest part.

 

[Jopossum]

Thanks very much again! You have confirmed what I suspected you meant However implementing all the elastic etc, i'm still a little unclear on. I look forward to that drawing, it'll be a great reference not only for me but other budding builders!

Update: added some more width to the pattern by simply "inserting" an additional strip vertically down the middle, worked great! added 60mm. The fit is great now BUT I still pop that seam on the bum!
I'm suspecting I may need more crotch length.

 

[Kellan Meig'h]

Here's an example to go by on Flikr. We do it the same as this suiter does.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71339215@N05/sets/72157674514430096/

Here is the tutorial that goes with the images.

fursuit.livejournal.com: Stretch Fur (A Tutorial)

 

[Jopossum]

Here's an example to go by on Flikr. We do it the same as this suiter does.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71339215@N05/sets/72157674514430096/

Here is the tutorial that goes with the images.

fursuit.livejournal.com: Stretch Fur (A Tutorial)

Fantastic! thankyou so much!
the flickr link says I need to be logged in but I don't have flickr though =_= Oh joy yet another account to add to the 203879751 others