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Is this the beginning of the end for Rush Limbaugh?

Onnes

Member
I'm sure a number of people have been watching this insanity unfold, so I'll keep the recap brief. A few weeks ago, after the administration announced new rules requiring insurance companies to cover contraceptives, the Republican controlled House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform decided to hold a day long hearing on the issue. While this hearing was ostensibly on the broader topic of religious freedom, it was obviously concerned with the very specific issue of religious organizations being allowed to not only refuse to pay for but outright deny insurance coverage for female contraception. With this as the topic, Republicans then made the hilarious move of staffing the morning testimony with only conservative religious men and denying Democrats their one minority witness, Sandra Fluke.

Fluke was instead invited to the capitol a week later to speak at an unofficial hearing while Congress was on break. As a student of a Jesuit university, her testimony was mainly concerned with the high cost of birth control and the fact that such contraceptives are frequently prescribed due to medical need. The headline example Fluke provided was of a student who was prescribed birth control to treat polycystic ovarian syndrome, was denied coverage under the university's insurance plan, and could not afford to pay for the treatment out of pocket resulting in the eventual removal of one of her ovaries after a cyst developed. When considering Limbaugh's response it should be remembered that the speech largely focused as birth control as a medical necessity.

So now enter talk show host Rush Limbaugh, who immediately decided that the best tact to take was a sustained line of personal attacks on Sandra Fluke and her fellow students. He called her a "slut", a "prostitute", and further said she “wants to be paid to have sex. She's having so much sex she can't afford the contraception. She wants you and me and the taxpayers to pay her to have sex.” He also suggested she post sex tapes online "so we can all watch." This isn't satire; Limbaugh really said those things, and he is the most heard voice on radio with over 15 million listeners each week. Even after the universally negative reactions across both political parties denouncing his statements--the outrage was sufficient for Fluke to get a phone call from President Obama--Limbaugh stood by what he said and added to them over the period of days.

It was only after advertisers started pulling their ads from his show that Limbaugh issued something resembling an apology this last Saturday. In it he said his "choice of words was not the best." I think most people realize there's a bigger issue with what he did than simple word choice. Is there really a nice way to repeatedly call someone a "slut"? Two sponsors actually pulled out after the issuance of the apology, and Fluke herself certainly doesn't appear to accept it as sincere or sufficient.

Is this the beginning of the end for the man who has been one of the most consistently revolting personalities in politics? He's done awful things before and survived, but the level he took it to here seems particularly beyond the pale and the resulting condemnation universal. Or is there truly no limit to what he can say on air and still maintain his show and his audience?
 

CannonFodder

Resistance is futile! If 0 ohm
I think it may destroy his talk show career, but he'll continue somehow. Idunno, maybe books or something.
 

Zaraphayx

Banned
Banned
As long as he has a mouth and there are suggestible idiots with ears, he will have a career, even if it isn't the one he used to have.
 

Lobar

The hell am I reading, here?
Really a not-pology. It's not the end of him, as there are even crazier, more despicable rightwingers out there with a following, but it is going to push him further away from relevance and into obscurity.
 

Onnes

Member
Really a not-pology. It's not the end of him, as there are even crazier, more despicable rightwingers out there with a following, but it is going to push him further away from relevance and into obscurity.

I assume that if he lost his insane audience count he'd pretty much drop off the face of the earth. It's a better outcome than the rest of the media only choosing to ignore him like an inconvenient cancer slowly consuming the Republican party.
 

Metalmeerkat

As slick as a bad analogy
Well, I'm still doing my job of pretending he doesn't exist. He wants attention (attention = views = ratings = money), and the most damaging action you can take is to pretend he doesn't exist; Limbaugh and is ilk feed off outrage after all. Yeah, sponsors have left him now to avoid association with this event as it'll hurt them, but now that everybody's focusing on this, his capture of attention has grown and more sponsors will come back.

It all boils down to money.
 

Xenke

Member
It's fun listening to other talk show hosts find ways to either justify or lessen the impact of the event. My favorite argument is "______ liberal talk show host said [insert bigoted/insensitive comment], if we crucify one we should look at all talkshow hosts!!"

Window into the the crazies, if I ever seen one.
 

Shànwàng

Lavender Scented
If we're talking about a complete collapse like Beck 'end' then I don't see that happening, not for a long time. Rush weathers controversial storms and while losing sponsors hurt, radio stations paying for his programming are still giving the distributor a hefty boon. He'll catch shit from programming managers, party leaders, and station owners for a time but eventually it'll pass. If he makes an actual apology instead of having an assistant type one up on his website, this will probably blow over entirely.
 

DarrylWolf

Banned
Banned
No, not really. He'll always find another way back. Back in 2003, he made some racist remark about Donovan McNabb and he lost his job at ESPN but he was back on the radio in weeks. Someone- probably a struggling small-market radio station out in flyover country- will pick him up even if he loses his job now and he'll never truly go away.
 

Onnes

Member
It's fun listening to other talk show hosts find ways to either justify or lessen the impact of the event. My favorite argument is "______ liberal talk show host said [insert bigoted/insensitive comment], if we crucify one we should look at all talkshow hosts!!"

Window into the the crazies, if I ever seen one.

There's been a lot of the typical false equivalency arguments from the right of the political spectrum in response to this crap. Usually it's either someone you've never heard of or not even specified. The thing with Limbaugh is that he has listeners; in fact he has the most listeners. He actually has influence despite his despicable actions.

It kind of cute that he thinks birth control pills work like Viagra

Catholic and other conservative religious views on Viagra versus birth control could be their own thread.
 

Cocobanana

Member
He has to present the Republican party as 'edgy.' First we're accepting when trash such as him defames another persons character just because he doesn't agree with their morals, next we'll have a good old fashioned Coliseum battle but instead of Christians being eaten by lions it'll be anyone who's left handed. Michael Savage is pretty horrible too, along with everyone else Fox News employs to branch out much farther than what is actual news.
 

Aden

Play from your ****ing HEART
Is this the beginning of the end for Rush Limbaugh?

rush limbaugh is man-shaped radio herpes
(read: no)

The thing is that there are an alarming number of people that think everything he says is true and agree with his opinions (e.g. they like hearing opinions they agree with fed back to them in an ostentatious manner by someone with confidence). He'll have steady income from the entertainment industry in some form or another as long as he wants it.
 

Attaman

"Welcome to FurAffinity Forums, gentlemen."
rush limbaugh is man-shaped radio herpes
(read: no)

The thing is that there are an alarming number of people that think everything he says is true and agree with his opinions (e.g. they like hearing opinions they agree with fed back to them in an ostentatious manner by someone with confidence). He'll have steady income from the entertainment industry in some form or another as long as he wants it.
Case-in-point: Another forum, person's arguing that Birth Control does not help with medical issues, should only be issued as a contraceptive, and that it's better to hire people to make sure it's being used as a contraceptive by its consumers (???) than expand the coverage for medical use. Several persons.

Rush didn't get 15,000,000 viewers through chance. People actually listen to him, and are probably calling his advertisers pussies for "being so concerned about political correctness" or the like.
 

Term_the_Schmuck

Most Interesting Man on FAF
No, not really. He'll always find another way back. Back in 2003, he made some racist remark about Donovan McNabb and he lost his job at ESPN but he was back on the radio in weeks. Someone- probably a struggling small-market radio station out in flyover country- will pick him up even if he loses his job now and he'll never truly go away.

Because race in sports broadcasting is something no one wants to talk about but is still clearly an issue, and that was just a small dip in a larger pond of political incorrectness and douchebagery in sports broadcasting, chief among them being Jimmy "The Greek" Snyder. It didn't stop the Cleveland Cavaliers from having a bit of a relationship with him until just recently.

Rush, like Howard Stern before him, is more playing off the shock-jock thing than anything else. The fact that he's a major political voice is unsettling, but this certainly isn't the first time he's drawn the ire of the Republican Party for being the "YOU'RE ALL THINKING IT, I JUST SAID IT" head of the GOP.

This all depends on how much further advertisers will look into what Rush is saying. It's very clear, as Lobar said, his apology was more towards the fact that he was not gaining any support, not from the Catholic Church, not from the GOP, and not from his sponsors over his comments. And it likely won't be long before he says something else that's equally offensive to some group of people.

If he ever does lose his terrestrial radio program, he's still got enough money to start up his own network ALA Glenn Beck, become a regular contributor to Fox News, or go the Howard Stern route again and get back on the radio through Sirius/XM.
 
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Cult

I don't want to live forever
Limbaugh is ending? Thank God.

Hell, I'm conservative and he pisses me off.
 

CannonFodder

Resistance is futile! If 0 ohm
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M. LeRenard

Is not French
Yeah, I wish.
No, this is precisely what makes the man money. It's a great strategy, honestly. Just make up a bunch of bullshit that makes whatever side you oppose sound like a bunch of insane dirty half-human zombie terrorist monsters, constantly portray yourself and your side as being victims, and bam, you'll gain millions of bat-shit insane followers who hang onto your every word like you were the Second Coming. So he can say whatever the fuck he wants, and he'll always have legions of adoring fans. He won't apologize because that would make him lose fans.
I mean, this guy says shit like this every day. That's why people listen to him. So the fact that he said one more piece of insane bigoted hate-filled nonsense is not going to push him into obscurity. That's just wishful thinking.
 

Keeroh

Shinies Snatcher
Honestly, this wont be the end for his lovely message. He's offending large amounts of people, but encouraging those who agree with his brand of crazy. All that will happen is, at most, he will be disappear from the public eye and make some books and live a quiet life and be replaced with someone saying the exact same thing.
 

ramsay_baggins

WINTERFELL!
I really don't understand how that kind of crazy has a fucking radio show. There was an article I read yesterday about a woman whose 16 year old daughter, on the pill for medical reasons, has been disgustingly bullied after the show aired. She's been called a slut, a whore, who is only taking BC so she can sleep with as many guys in the school as she can get her hands on and has been entirely ostracised by all the girls in her school. Which is FUCKED UP! It makes me really angry.
 
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