Kothorix's new video makes me want to stop being a furry.

[KimberVaile]

This is what the thread topic is now, human penises and sheaths. I apologize for my part in letting the thread derail, but I mean, it's kind of funny when you think about it.

 

[MiroTheFox]

This is what the thread topic is now, human penises and sheaths. I apologize for my part in letting the thread derail, but I mean, it's kind of funny when you think about it.

this is what happens when you let a lewd artist join in, in conversations.

 

[Shadow of Bucephalus]

I agree wholeheartedly. Therapy first, medication later, genital surgery as a last resort, and if problems still persist, the perpetrator needs to be locked up.

In this, I agree to disagree with you.
Repeat offenders of heinous crimes like pedophilia need to be executed and removed from society. That is the only 'Cure' for their ailment, and the only way to ensure they will never, ever, repeat said crimes in the future.
I'll weigh the safety of a child, over the thrown-away 'Rights' of a repeatedly convicted/caught pedophile, ANY day.

 

[MiroTheFox]

In this, I agree to disagree with you.
Repeat offenders of heinous crimes like pedophilia need to be executed and removed from society. That is the only 'Cure' for their ailment, and the only way to ensure they will never, ever, repeat said crimes in the future.
I'll weigh the safety of a child, over the thrown-away 'Rights' of a repeatedly convicted/caught pedophile, ANY day.

Thats a really heavy topic, that sure to rustle some jimmies.

 

[idkthough120]

wow this spread to 10 pages.

great validity here

 

[MiroTheFox]

wow this spread to 10 pages.

great validity here

4 of these pages are talking about animal & human penis's though.

 

[Shadow of Bucephalus]

Thats a really heavy topic, that sure to rustle some jimmies.

I am able to separate 'Fantasy/Art/Dialogue (aka: chat),' with real-life incidents of real people (and where it applies, animals), being sexually exploited and harmed.

If those who can't maintain that line of reality vs fantasy wish to have their jimmies rustled?

They probably enjoy it.

 

[MiroTheFox]

I am able to separate 'Fantasy/Art/Dialogue (aka: chat),' with real-life incidents of real people (and where it applies, animals), being sexually exploited and harmed.

If those who can't maintain that line of reality vs fantasy wish to have their jimmies rustled?

They probably enjoy it.

i mean more of a political way... death sentances are a very heavy subject

 

[Meikiron]

Found this online, what'd'y'all gotta say about it

 

[Zehlua]

In this, I agree to disagree with you.
Repeat offenders of heinous crimes like pedophilia need to be executed and removed from society. That is the only 'Cure' for their ailment, and the only way to ensure they will never, ever, repeat said crimes in the future.
I'll weigh the safety of a child, over the thrown-away 'Rights' of a repeatedly convicted/caught pedophile, ANY day.

I agree when it comes to repeat offenders.

 

[Zehlua]

Thats a really heavy topic, that sure to rustle some jimmies.

Not mine. I was sexually assaulted starting at age four. By all means, round up them up and do whatever is necessary to end their reigns of terror.

 

[MiroTheFox]

Not mine. I was sexually assaulted starting at age four. By all means, round up them up and do whatever is necessary to end their reigns of terror.

I was Full on raped at about age 6. went to court about it and everything. but like, Death penalty is a bit much.

 

[angelcrush]

It makes me hesitant to be in the furry community.

 

[MiroTheFox]

It makes me hesitant to be in the furry community.

i'd read more posts, Koth's Video is full of fabrications & personal feelings.

Nothing to take for real.

 

[Zehlua]

I am not sure tbh. It's possible he invites a lot of drama due to the nature of his YT page.



Then anyone into anatomically correct yiff is a zoophile, because furries love drawing dog cocks on all their anthropomorphic furries.

I actually agree here. Why are we drawing realistic animals having sex? It's different if it's an anthro animal with human characteristics, because they're expressly sapient and can provide enthusiastic consent. As for animal dongles, I personally don't care as long as it's attached to a consenting being.

 

[Zehlua]

I was Full on raped at about age 6. went to court about it and everything. but like, Death penalty is a bit much.

I agree, but this is referring to repeat offenders. The death penalty is an absolute last resort.

 

[MiroTheFox]

I actually agree here. Why are we drawing realistic animals having sex? It's different if it's an anthro animal with human characteristics, because they're expressly sapient and can provide enthusiastic consent. As for animal dongles, I personally don't care as long as it's attached to a consenting being.

I mean, that is the only thing that makes Zoophilia Taboo and illegal. is consent. as soon as something CAN Consent its no longer illegal.

 

[Zehlua]

I mean, that is the only thing that makes Zoophilia Taboo and illegal. is consent. as soon as something CAN Consent its no longer illegal.

To clarify; I define consent as consistent, enthusiastic, and given without force. If animals could think like us and talk to us (or at least nod for "yes") then this would be a much different conversation. It's also not fair and highly unethical to use a position of power for sexual gratification with no consideration for those of "lesser" status.
When it comes to children, yes they can provide a verbal "yes," but the problem is that there's a very obvious power imbalance between an adult and a child. A child does not have the mental, physical, and emotional maturity to handle having sex, especially with an adult. For me personally, the results of my sexual encounters with older parties were disastrous, with very serious long-term health problems that I'm still dealing with over 20 years later.

 

[MiroTheFox]

To clarify; I define consent as consistent, enthusiastic, and given without force. If animals could think like us and talk to us (or at least nod for "yes") then this would be a much different conversation. It's also not fair and highly unethical to use a position of power for sexual gratification with no consideration for those of "lesser" status.
When it comes to children, yes they can provide a verbal "yes," but the problem is that there's a very obvious power imbalance between an adult and a child. A child does not have the mental, physical, and emotional maturity to handle having sex, especially with an adult. For me personally, the results of my sexual encounters with older parties were disastrous, with very serious long-term health problems that I'm still dealing with over 20 years later.

i have no objections to that, i agree.

 

[Deleted member 111470]

Well, it's not like he's wrong about the things he talks in the vid.

The furry fandom is kinda horrible.

 

[MiroTheFox]

Well, it's not like he's wrong about the things he talks in the vid.

The furry fandom is kinda horrible.

He is very wrong. He used incorrect Graphs from 8+ years ago.
said a majority is EITHER a zoophile or pedophile with little to no evidence.

he talks about how he was treated, by him nosing himself into drama....

his entire video is skewed.

 

[TrishaCat]

Found this online, what'd'y'all gotta say about it

Two things:
First, a lot of people liking something isnt the same as that being what it's about. Yes, a lot of furries like furry porn. What bugs me about this image's implication is that theres A LOT of SFW furry art. If the general definition of "furry" is a fan of anthropomorphic animals, then at it's very basis, furry doesnt imply anything sexual, correct? Of course, a lot of furries like porn, but does this mean those same people that like porn dislike SFW artwork? It's not fair to imply people liking porn means porn is why they're here. The porn for many is more of a bonus than the primary draw.

As for the second, the image implies that the highest search for furry porn is in the state with the most bestiality practitioners, however it does this by using laws rather than incidents of such. Laws generally form because something is a problem and they're necessary; I'm not saying its necessarily the case, but wouldn't that imply that there haven't been many incidents in such states and that's why there are no laws? Either way, the implication that a lack of laws means a lot of people are doing it is poor.

 

[Astus]

Heckkkk we should like totally disband the furry fandom if all of this stuff is true :O then there will be no more of that stuff... Right? I mean it's not like people would keep doing that stuff without the fandom.

And don't forget, sex is primarily a furry thing! Because that's why the human population is in the billions, because there are so many furries out there :O normal people don't look up kinky porn stuff or do weird sexual things, nope not at all.

 

[idkthough120]

I only look up reliable stuff, but not that.

Heckkkk we should like totally disband the furry fandom if all of this stuff is true :O then there will be no more of that stuff... Right? I mean it's not like people would keep doing that stuff without the fandom.

And don't forget, sex is primarily a furry thing! Because that's why the human population is in the billions, because there are so many furries out there :O normal people don't look up kinky porn stuff or do werid sexual things, nope not at all.

 

[Yakamaru]

When drunks or toddlers gang up on a lone fursuiter, or the Daily Mail or Inside Edition does a cynical smear segment on the fandom, that's the time when furries should stick together.

Bullies, jerks, trolls, predators, toxic people, chronic fuckups, and violent criminals are exempt from this warm-fuzzy consideration.

As we've noted before, furries and many other geeks have a tendency to fall hard for the Geek Social Fallacies, and toxic people are all too happy to take advantage of this naivete and/or spinelessness.

I, too, was angry, disappointed, depressed, and disheartened by this news when it first broke, but I've taken solace in the sheer number of people who've come out against the zoosadist ring and its named members, and in the realization that a group of furries actually banded together to help bring these creeps to justice.

I'm just not looking forward to Kero being on normies' radar, and I'm definitely not looking forward to inevitably being "asked" about him.

Have I ever told you that getting a like from you and/or Saiko feels like a god damn badge of honor? <3

Anyways, back on-topic..

It will depend on the context of the situation.
Are we talking about a bunch of kids going "AMMAGAWDAFURSUITIMUSTTOUCHITSODAMNCUTE!"? I'd call that harmless.
Bunch of drunkards attacking someone? Yeah, no. I will defend the person being attacked. Not because they are a Furry, but because it's a pathetic excuse for human behaviour to gang up on someone, and is not acceptable by any standard.

Daily Mail and/or Inside Edition(haven't heard of the latter one until you mentioned it) trying to do a smear? Well, it only means they have something they actually can use to smear the fandom with.
Kero being a prime example of something they can use. Too much tolerance ends up in people like this abusing that tolerance, and you have put yourself in a bit of a fickle. Because how do you untangle yourself from the web you yourself created and ended up being stuck in? The solution is simple in this case: Don't create a web in the first place. Have clear standards for your tolerance and stick by them.

I'm against call out culture as I find the whole idea of it cancerous and toxic as hell, but in some cases it needs to be done. Note that I am for call out culture when someone's already exposed themselves, not actively finding people and basically having it be a witch hunt. I am vehemently against witch hunts of all kinds.

Quite frankly Kero is but one of many individuals in the fandom that IMHO needs to be addressed and "kicked out", so to speak. Have people disassociate themselves with such individuals and call them out if need be, but not to root them out and chase.

Heckkkk we should like totally disband the furry fandom if all of this stuff is true :O then there will be no more of that stuff... Right? I mean it's not like people would keep doing that stuff without the fandom.

And don't forget, sex is primarily a furry thing! Because that's why the human population is in the billions, because there are so many furries out there :O normal people don't look up kinky porn stuff or do werid sexual things, nope not at all.

People need tolerance standards and stand by them. Inconsistent standards will end up with you getting stuck in a web of your own making.