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Niru the Husky

Niru the Husky

Can easily be persuaded with bacon...
*sneaks spontaneously under a fluffy blanket and suddenly falls asleep*
 
Draakc from State Farm

Draakc from State Farm

Shitpost God
Banned
I remember
I think my grandpa years ago
Had this spiderman game on his phone
I think I finally found the game but I can't find ANY way to download it
 
Draakc from State Farm

Draakc from State Farm

Shitpost God
Banned
Punji

Punji

Daedric Prince of Secrets
Wow! 11,521 pages.

That's a lotta posts!
 
ConorHyena

ConorHyena

From out of the rain.
RafflesHolmes said:
And I say I agree with ya.

I think it's really stupid honestly how, so many furries on this website get heated over other people's thoughts and opinions.
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Just to clarify- I'm not heated at all. I'm arguing Draac's opinion, which I think is simply a moral wrong. This is a public space, and he posted it, so I'm completely within the scope of a community to tell him I disagree with it. It's a public forum, if you post your opinion, you have to calculate it being disagreed with. I have done so civilly, without attacking him.
Anything else, about reps and Nazis stating their opinion and getting attacked over it - Firstly one must learn to chose your fight, a community filled with LGBT+ people who regularely got harrassed by conservatives might not be as accepting towards those views, and secondly, if you do state a political or moral view, you have to expect it to be argued. If you do not wish for that, simply don't state it.

Tenné said:
I think it's an interesting philosophical topic at least. I don't really know how deep into morality law theory is, since that kind of stuff isn't really part of my bubble.

Suppose you've stolen an apple from a supermarket. The supermarket already expects some loss due to spoilage and theft, and accounts for it. The employees wouldn't really care that much if one apple was missing. For all purposes it would be fine. So why is it immoral?

The way I reason about it is: Stealing one apple doesn't particularly matter, but if there is a culture around stealing apples from supermarkets where a lot of people do it, then it's a big problem. You can never steal the apple in a vacuum -- there will always be unintended consequences. For example, someone might see you take an apple, and that will give them courage to do so too.

The same would apply to piracy. The guy in the text image actually does actively encourage it, so it's extra immoral.
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There's a difference between law theory and morality, which in this case, more or less doesn't matter, because law theory would state that stealing is wrong because it is against a paragraph that states it to be so - the paragraph defines stealing, roughly as "Taking someone elses property with intent to make it yours" and in case of taking an apple from a supermarket this applies because no matter if the supermarket has an insurance/calculated losses, etc. It's still against the law, and the law only works if it's reasonably absolute. Of course in case of the apple, if it really just is one there are possibilitys to just drop the prosecution because of insignificance, which would also be part of law theory, e.g. keeping the load on the courts lower and therefor letting people go who committed offenses that are too small to make sense for a proper persecution, this however is procedural law, the fact remains that the action of stealing the apple is against the law.
The moral implications in this case would be similar. You're taking something you don't own, something that belongs to another man without his permission, that is morally wrong. There's an argument, obviously, if you were starving and needed said apple to survive, or if another person's life was in danger, and you had to steal the apple to save them, which puts us at the argument of "weigthing" evil against good, which is its own moral discussion with different proponents.

Piracy is different insofar that it has become a social norm to do so over the internet - people even have some sort of "Robin Hood" mentality that they're "telling the big record firms to sod off" which is of course hilarious, and a bit of a cover argument to make oneself feel better. Essentially though the theft of copyrighted material stays a crime, and most people realize that, despite them not wanting to admit it. (to circle back to the furry fandom one sees how many people upload other people's content from patreon to places like E621.net. It's essentially the same.)
 
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TR273

TR273

Pirate Fox Mom
*Walks in*
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Niru the Husky

Niru the Husky

Can easily be persuaded with bacon...
. _.
“Today“ could stay away from me
Also hi and
*wins*
 
Draakc from State Farm

Draakc from State Farm

Shitpost God
Banned
Existenceinanutshell

Existenceinanutshell

Well-Known Member
ConorHyena said:
Just to clarify- I'm not heated at all. I'm arguing Draac's opinion, which I think is simply a moral wrong. This is a public space, and he posted it, so I'm completely within the scope of a community to tell him I disagree with it. It's a public forum, if you post your opinion, you have to calculate it being disagreed with. I have done so civilly, without attacking him.
Anything else, about reps and Nazis stating their opinion and getting attacked over it - Firstly one must learn to chose your fight, a community filled with LGBT+ people who regularely got harrassed by conservatives might not be as accepting towards those views, and secondly, if you do state a political or moral view, you have to expect it to be argued. If you do not wish for that, simply don't state it.
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Firstly, relax your tits and stop taking things too seriously. Considering the amount of time you took to reply to both shows it got to you in some shape or form. Not everything needs to be taken to heart.

Secondly. Not every battle needs to fought. Not every opinion needs to be debated to the end of time.

It's fine to let people live and let live.

If you truly believe someone has the wrong idea of something. Let life sort that view out. Through interactions with others and through growth of ones self will they find the right answer.

But you acting like this, doesn't make anyone change their mind. It only makes you look like a joke. An SJW type of joke where they act mighty than another person by trying to have the moral ground and freakly that is the worst kind of joke.

People can think for themselves and don't need to be judged 24/7 for every single thing they say or do.

Let people be people.
 
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