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Lots of Fursuit Questions (Padding, LEDs, Fabric, Moving Jaw)

GypseeCrush

New Member
Okay, so I have a few questions I need help with before starting on a costume that I am REALLY wanting to make.
The suit in question will be of Agumon from Digimon.

Now, because of his proportions, I will need a LOT of padding to keep him from looking incredibly awkward. My first question has to do with padding. How can I make padding (and what can I make it out of) that will stay in the suit at all times to that I don't have to worry about putting everything back in every time I wear it? The padding will be literally all over the suit. Save for maybe my back and my face, no part of my body will be touching the back of the fabric I use at any given time (stomach padding, leg padding, arm padding, drop crotch padding, etc.)

This brings me to my next question, what kind of fabric could I use in place of faux fur? I really don't want Agumon to be totally furry, per say, but I also don't want him to be made out of anything that doesn't breathe or that will make the mesh I will see out of too obvious, like vinyl. I don't need scaly fabric, jut something that isn't quite fur.

Another question I have is how in the world am I going to make his mouth move? I want to make a full articulated jaw for him, but the head will be mounted on a helmet or something of the sort and I will be seeing out through his neck. Is that possible?

My next question has to do with LED lighting. I need to have a bundle of LEDs at the back of Agumon's throat that I will be able to control with a toggle switch inside of the paw/hand of the suit. Unfortunately, I have no idea where to go to get the lights or the toggle switch and I don't know the first thing about using wiring.

Lastly, how in the world do I go about making outdoor foot bottoms and what do I make them out of?

I've tried to search for tutorials on all of these and so far I've had no luck. I REALLY hope someone will b able to help me with this and then I can finally get my Agumon costume up and running! Thank you!
~Gypsee
 
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Rhee

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http://www.thatscoolwire.com/store/category.asp?CategoryID=185
for el wire, LED, and inverters
I can help you through this [led/el wire], you'll want to make a pocket in the padding near the neck surface depending on the thickness of your desired fabric. and insert the electronics in, you can get sound activated LEDs, if your face is in the neck you will need to wrap your electronics in ziplock or other moisture preventative precautions, short outs and nasty shocks are unfun/unsafe.

I am assuming the best option is fleece, I saw a guilmon in fleece.

padding can be done with upholstery foam, you might be better making a sort of augmon fat suit [lack of better description/this can be secured in the costume later, get sweat wicking under garments that are comfortable] for the core body and then make a dummy of that for the pattern. you will probably need help for that, get a friend that won't leave you in the middle of this.

have you tried drawing the suit on a person yet? you could always have the mouth slightly open and see out the back of the mouth, which would allow you to control the articulation with your own jaw.
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
I've checked out that site and it actually does look pretty cool. I was planning on having the lights sitting in the back of the throat blocked off by some kind of loose woven mesh fabric to partially hide it. I also had a plan to wrap the wiring that will run down to the "hand" of the suit in electrical tape and run the wire down through the foam of the head, down the neck, and into the arm of the suit.

Fleece sounds alright, but I was mostly worried about how fleece likes to pill up when it gets used often. One of my friends suggested some kind of cotton fabric, but I'm not 100% sure about that, either.

Could you explain a bit more about the fat suit thing? That is kind of what I was planning on doing with the padding anyway, but I'm not sure how you mean I should make one.

I have attempted to draw the way the suit will end up looking on me (I don't have the drawing with me but I could post it later) and while my vision would be temporarily obstructed by the jaw whenever I open it, I do think I would feel more comfortable with seeing out of the neck. Since this post, I have actually found a couple of quadsuit tutorials on head making that serve my purpose nicely, so I guess that question has been answered ^w^

And what about the outdoor foot bottoms?

Thank you for your help!
 

Rhee

Member
people make those foam, sandals for outside wear, it might be the best. I don't muck around with feet so much

loose woven? buckram, in the back of the mouth you probably even sew the EL wire to the buckram if you pick the wire over the LED bulbs. I'm sue there is a way to finagle a wireless remote that could control the inverter of the light but its far beyond me right now

there is anti pill fleece, but It still pills :L
vinyl for the claws and teeth or plastic/clay

I'm not 100% sure having wires all over your body carrying a current is a good idea, with that much bending in regular movements I'd hate to see the connection broken /diaodes or worse you getting zapped in the suit

Fat suit is sort of improper, shape suit would be better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbd6C2TtGNI
caninehybrid shows it well

basically you use foam to make yourself agumon shaped. not 100% sure on how to do a dropped crotch though, I can only think of giant foam diapers.

cotton might work, fleece is ideal for areas like the mouth and eye lids less wear in those areas
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
Thank you again for your help! And how would you recommend I do the wiring? I agree that I shouldn't have all of this wire going across my body and such, but having a button in the back of the head would be too difficult to work with since I not only want to have full control, but the suit's hands will be far too big to flip a switch with.
 

Rhee

Member
An area of low movement, sound activation might be ideal in the long run, so you can just roar and look at the pepper breath

will you have a handler with you?
I want to say in the foam of one of the upper arm region, but the claws hamper the whole concept

unless you have the tuck claws were there is a seam for you to pop you hands out work some stuff and pull them back up into the claw. I've seen some fur paws with that.

I don't know if you 100% are going to copy the augmon or just kind of take a creative licence on the hands and make the fingers usable
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
I wouldn't dare go out without a handler, that's for sure. While I do have other fursuit ideas that will have better vision and mobility, this one in particular will have extremely limited vision and such.
My idea for the hands were to have the full agumon hands, but I was planning on having small exit holes I can pushmy fingers through to be able to use them if I must.
My hands won't quite be in the claws, per say, either.
 

Rhee

Member
like a ball catchers gloves then?

I'm sure there is a jaw mechanism that would allow you to open the jaw, of the suit I just don't know how, if its not using your own jaw.

going to have to say sound activated or remote activated would be the best choice, maybe a wide running along the the anterior portion of your arm, till the elbow, flipping up to the top and sitting on your first knuckle?
elbows are funky, so much rotation there.
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
That kind of wiring might work. I kinda figured that I would find some way to keep everything protected from sweat and still have the flip-switch sitting in my palm or at leats within reach of my finger.
Also thank you for all this advice and help and such. It really helps a lot!
 

Rhee

Member
electric tape should work, wrap it tight slightly over lapping all the way down. though the tape makes the wire more ridged, tape the areas the wires are exposed.
red is positive, black is negative. sometimes you'll need a 'bead' which can let a item that only needs 4v get it from a 9v battery. [I forgot what they are called] they do exists and they look like beads, they can go on either wire, conventionally they are attached to the positive wire. you'll need to go to a specialist store/hobby lobby the local stores like lowe's and home depot really didn't have them.
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
I'll be honest, I don't know the first thing about working with wire ^^; That's why I'm asking all these questions. I want to be sure I know at least a little bit about what I'm doing before I start doing it
 

Rhee

Member
Yeah might head over to youtube and watch some tutorials, I had someone solder my wires together I don't own a solder gun.
:L
 

GypseeCrush

New Member
I'll probably have to do that. I also talked to some people who own an led wire comapny and they said that they'd alk me through setting things up when I get my wire ^w^
 

Rhee

Member
oh lucky you! now all you have to do is make the head! xD
 

Rhee

Member
some place that does upholstery, I'm not sure on the price though shop around. webstores and rl stores
 
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