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Need a bit advice/critique

CaptainEllipsis

Slowly Improving
I got a tablet not too long ago and thought i'd give digipainting a shot. I'm looking to head in a more realistic style, but I can't really seem to hit home yet, so I wanted to know what you guys thought.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8269866/

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8275878/

I plan on doing at least 2 per week now (practice makes perfect afterall), so i'm looking for any kind of critique, whether it's general anatomy, lighting, or just an opinion. Don't be afraid to be brutally honest either. :p
 

Zydala

Kisses for everyone!
Fur is better implied in chunks and with minimal/important details than drawn softly with brushes that try to capture each and every strand of hair... do it in chunks and pay special attention to how light hits the fur in your references. If I find any good examples I'll get 'em to you :]
 

CaptainEllipsis

Slowly Improving
Okay, I tried using the round brush, and doing more "clumps" instead of just single hairs by themselves. They look a lot better imo :D

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8311768/

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8320568/
more of speedpaint, but meh.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8340321/

It's worth noting that I used a different brush in the first and third one to smudge the ends of the fur, but everything else is hard round brush.
Anymore tips on where I should head next? or just general things to work on?
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
You still need to do them as clumps, it looks like you're still trying to do details too fast. But these are much better.

Also another word of advice is to avoid using pure blacks. The eyes are so flat in these because you're doing pure blacks.
 

Zydala

Kisses for everyone!
Of those three new ones I think the lion is the most successful. I agree with arshes though it's looking better but keep pushing! Really pay attention to how hair and fur tend to clump in little bunches and where the darkest 'gaps' in the hair are. Hair does tend to go in a certain direction on certain parts of the face but not as uniformly sleeked out as these look. But I'm glad you're liking the round brush a lot more now, it does make working easier! Keep at it! :]
 

Saeto15

Member
Are you using the same size brush for everything? Try using a larger brush at first to place your colours, then going back in with a smaller one to put in the details. Save the really fine details for last.
 

CaptainEllipsis

Slowly Improving
Thanks guys :)
I tried doing another one, mainly to focus on clumping fur and I think I get it a little better now, but I think i made them too large. I didn't try to do anything too realistic in this one though, i wanted to focus on the fur for now.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8356718/

And @Saeto15, I start with a large brush, then progressively get smaller as I get closer to the end. Though I never really go smaller than 5px.
 

CaptainEllipsis

Slowly Improving
Alrighty, I think this'll be the last one I ask for critique on for a while. The rest seems like mostly practice, and patience. might be a while before I get the muzzle fur down though :p

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/8402278/

I have a quick question as well: I've seen/heard artists starting in black and white first, does that make a difference, or is it just a preference?
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
The problem I'm seeing is kinda the same for all of them, sameness of strokes. There's a point where you're painting for the effect of fur, and not really looking at fur. The tiger's body generally has shorter fur. Your strokes (and sometimes they go against how the fur would move in relation to its body) seem to drag out Where the side and back are, I'm confused as to what is going on, is that the tail next to a leg? Another tiger?

However, in the face, this seems to be where you're paying more attention at, and blending in shadow colors a bit better. The eyes...look too much glitz pageant to me though
Talia.jpg

http://www.pageantretouch.com/images/Talia.jpg

morales2.jpg

http://www.pageantretouch.com/images/morales2.jpg

So you get the idea, that ...Obvious Photoshop is obvious. Watch how the shadows are and don't try to make things...seem so sharp if they have softer edges etc...

All in all though don't get me wrong, still rather good piece just some parts you need to pay more attention to instead of focusing on an "effect"
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
I'm still having the same issues with your previous attempts. You seem to be doing a lot of the same brush chunks which takes away interest. Learn when to do less detail. Not every piece of fur needs to be rendered just like hair.
 

Arshes Nei

Masticates in Public
Okay, I think I gotcha; less is more. I had a question I forgot to ask last time, but how would I go about using textures? And are they really necessary, or are they just for extra effects/style?

This is done in Open Canvas 1.1 - which just uses one kind of brush

013.jpg
 
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