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CannonFodder

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Fifty dollars says the first person thrown in jail is a furry, any takers?
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
So you approve of people being raped. but not child porn?
In the end child porn IS rape. real childporn that is.
You sir seem to be the sick one here.
I am not for nor against cub art.
but i am against child porn and rape.
Seems a lot of people here in the fandom think RAPE is okay but cub art is not. Don't get me started on vore or scat. You would be best described as the latter.
No, I was talking about your "nobody cares but me" generalization about what furs do and do not like. Also, are you even READING my other posts?
 
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Artificial Ginger

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I didn't see any replies to this, but it's wise and I might've missed 'em.

I thought this was already the law anyway. Still, it's pretty fucked up. The whole thing is pretty much based on emotion, I don't see how it can possibly serve any useful purpose at all. It's not protecting children and it's not going to stop the real pedophiles from being pedophiles. It's like prosecuting someone because they "might" commit an actual crime.
If anything, it makes actual children less safe by diverting resources toward fighting cartoon porn and away from catching actual predators =/

EDIT: Also, gb2 school and re-learn English, Anepo >.>
 

Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
I can name a couple big ones.

So now you're discriminating against underage users as you try to 'protect them' by keeping your precious cub porn?!
Being underage myself, I am offended, my good sir.

As far as i can tell there is an AGE limit here for the mature filter. ANd it seems you violate that term and do have the filter disabled.
ANd i have said MANY times that i am neither against nor nor cub porn.
You may well be offended if you wish.
But i am not the one breaking the RULES of furaffinity by having a disabled filter as you now have proven.

And i never said i was trying to discriminate. We were all underage once.
Your so called logic that i am discriminating against kids is illogical.
 

Redregon

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Just ban it on here too. Do we really need it? Really. Is that one freedom we want?

no and no. this site does not need to rely on the small percentage of cub-porn drawing artists and such. there are even sites that are built to cater specifically to that subset of the fandom.

keeping it on here was (As i understand) an attempt to please people because of the whole "freedom of expression" argument. i've been critical when the whole "vote" came up those years back because opening it up to a vote was completely unnessessary since, well, this site is not nor will it ever be a true democracy. it has always been and always will be the property of one man (whose name is on the bills for the equipment and the hosting facility where said equipment resides.) if this law came to the US, the only thing i'd be concerned for is Dragoneer's ass being the communal bicycle if he were sent to prison (cause, well, this site is technically his computer and all images could be considered "his")

granted, the whole vote issue was flawed to begin with... it targeted the entire cub scene and didn't specify between cub art and cub porn. if it was only the cub porn scene, chances are this site would have been cub-porn free since 2005ish.

the fandom will survive if one site decides to remove one subset of a sort that the majority predominantly hate... and usually with a passion. we have to remember, this site is not the fandom, it is only one site.
 

Artificial Ginger

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In that case, go back to Vulcan, Anepo. You are clearly violating the Prime Directive.
 

Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
I didn't see any replies to this, but it's wise and I might've missed 'em.


If anything, it makes actual children less safe by diverting resources toward fighting cartoon porn and away from catching actual predators =/

EDIT: Also, gb2 school and re-learn English, Anepo >.>

Indeed quite well stated. And excuse me Ginger but we are not all native in english. My country is NOT an country that has english as it's native tongue.
There is no need to complain at me for not writing english 100%.
Learn MY language and let's see how well you do in that.
Then you may complain and bitch all you want.
if you learn my country's language better than me.
 

Kit H. Ruppell

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Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
In that case, go back to Vulcan, Anepo. You are clearly violating the Prime Directive.
Are you 5 years old or what? your comments are ridiculous and not helping to adress the issue about what should be done. wether to ban cub art or to have a big portion of the fandom left out.

If you can not comment with anything useful other than hate.
Then you may as well not comment at all.
This kind of humor looks to me like you might as well either be 5 years old or an adult who is legally retarded.
 

Redregon

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Are you 5 years old or what? your comments are ridiculous and not helping to adress the issue about what should be done. wether to ban cub art or to have a big portion of the fandom left out.

If you can not comment with anything useful other than hate.
Then you may as well not comment at all.

assuming that cub porn constitutes a "big portion" of the fandom is a fallacy of logic. it is one small slice of an already targeted subset of the fandom itself. suggesting that cub-porn is Big business is like saying dress shops that cater to the transexual scene is "big business."
 

Artificial Ginger

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Indeed quite well stated. And excuse me Ginger but we are not all native in english. My country is NOT an country that has english as it's native tongue.
There is no need to complain at me for not writing english 100%.
There is plenty of need. This forum is hosted in a predominantly English-speaking country. We all speak English fluently. You clearly do not understand what we are actually discussing. So, either you weren't taught English very well, or you're just a complete and utter idiot.

Either way, shut the fuck up, get the fuck out, and have a nice day! =D

EDIT: By the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
Are you 5 years old or what? your comments are ridiculous and not helping to adress the issue about what should be done. wether to ban cub art or to have a big portion of the fandom left out.

If you can not comment with anything useful other than hate.
Then you may as well not comment at all.
This kind of humor looks to me like you might as well either be 5 years old or an adult who is legally retarded.
Oh, sure. As if "C'mon guys, play nice please. Can't we all just get along?" is the most helpful thing ever said!
 

Anepo

Anepo the last furryof iceland
assuming that cub porn constitutes a "big portion" of the fandom is a fallacy of logic. it is one small slice of an already targeted subset of the fandom itself. suggesting that cub-porn is Big business is like saying dress shops that cater to the transexual scene is "big business."

I did NOT say that.
I said wether to ban cub porn. or to have a big portion of the fandom not being able to be here due to risks of being arrested.
People in the UK are now no longer legally allowed to be on this site due to laws passed.
So there is a large portion of people in the UK which are on FA.
FA is now considered a child pornography site in the UK thanks to the new laws.
Read the topics first post better before you comment. thank you.

There is plenty of need. This forum is hosted in a predominantly English-speaking country. We all speak English fluently. You clearly do not understand what we are actually discussing. So, either you weren't taught English very well, or you're just a complete and utter idiot.

Either way, shut the fuck up, get the fuck out, and have a nice day! =D

EDIT: By the way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek

Dear lord. You seem to be a complete racist. It shows your upbringing.
And if i am an idiot i am no more an idiot than you. Atleast i do have some kind of sense to not use curse words in that way.
And guess what? it is night time. Ever heard of different country's having different timezones? Of course not. your country only teaches english and nothing else.

That's because I didn't want to waste valuable space by posting your full quote.
Seriously though. What the fuck? Study English moar

Thank you but it is not my fault that my country has not its main language as english. Thank you for your racist comment. please may i have another?
 
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Redregon

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I did NOT say that.
I said wether to ban cub porn. or to have a big portion of the fandom not being able to be here due to risks of being arrested.
People in the UK are now no longer legally allowed to be on this site due to laws passed.
So there is a large portion of people in the UK which are on FA.
FA is now considered a child pornography site in the UK thanks to the new laws.
Read the topics first post better before you comment. thank you.

okay, i misinterpreted your comment. doesn't mean you have to get all indignant about it.
 

Kit H. Ruppell

Exterminieren! Exterminieren!
I did NOT say that.
I said wether to ban cub porn. or to have a big portion of the fandom not being able to be here due to risks of being arrested.
That is not a difficult decision at all. Also, I can't tell what point you're trying to make anymore.
 

Mayonnaise

Off we go to the sea
The law refers only to an image of a "child" or an "imaginary child". The word "child", itself, refers specifically to a humans, or "persons". This law says nothing of furries.
Uhh... furries are not persons?

Sorry if I got that wrong.
 

ArielMT

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Uhh... furries are not persons?

Sorry if I got that wrong.

Furries as in the anthropomorphic animal subjects of various arts, not furries as in the people who are fans of such.
 

spartan117ak

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I say this simply without bothering to read the walls of text...

FA should ban cub art plain and simple. It's not censorship, it's illegal and many could argue it's wrong. Having to have your porn be under the legal limit for fetish reasons is not really something that holds up well for me. Why should I have to respect a fetish like that? And if your going to point out the irony of me being a furry myself and having people judge me... Well let them judge me, I AM a sick fuck. At least I am not a sick fuck that is into something illegal.

That is all. I am trying to be as objective as possible without looking hateful. It's just, well... The rules now right? Being a law abiding citizen should not be hateful. :U
 

Redregon

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Furries as in the anthropomorphic animal subjects of various arts, not furries as in the people who are fans of such.

i'll buy that argument when people stop referring to pictures of their characters as "ME" or other terms that mean the same level of personal attachment.
 

Sauvignon

aynil
Uhh... furries are not persons?

Sorry if I got that wrong.

In this case, "furries" refers to the fantasy animal characters - not the people who created them.
People are animals, but not all animals are people. In fact, the only animals that are people, are people.
A fantasy fox/wolf/dragon/tiger that walks on two legs and has opposable thumbs is still a fantasy fox/wolf/dragon/tiger that walks on two legs and has opposable thumbs. It is not a fantasy person, and not a person.

People who write laws are either idiots, or smart enough to write the laws loosely enough to give the courts the leeway to interpret whatever the hell they feel like interpreting based on their political agendas.
 
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