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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I think the website needs a pretext to remove medical misinformation.
I don't think users who post incorrect medical information should be infracted, but I think the posts should be removed to prevent them doing harm,
e.g. posts that tell a user with a mental health complaint not to take their medication, or posts which tell parents to pursue alternative or spiritual medicines for their children in place of real ones.
 

luffy

Administrator
Staff member
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I think the website needs a pretext to remove medical misinformation.
I don't think users who post incorrect medical information should be infracted, but I think the posts should be removed to prevent them doing harm,
e.g. posts that tell a user with a mental health complaint not to take their medication, or posts which tell parents to pursue alternative or spiritual medicines for their children in place of real ones.
Making the site responsible for misinformation regarding medication or other medical-related issues would not be beneficial to the site (or community, potentially) as we are not trained medical professionals and would have to source from the Internet like the users posting.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Making the site responsible for misinformation regarding medication or other medical-related issues would not be beneficial to the site (or community, potentially) as we are not trained medical professionals and would have to source from the Internet like the users posting.

I agree that it wouldn't be possible to spot all misinformation, but it could be effective in preventing repetition of medical conspiracy theories.

While I'm here I suppose I should also mention that I was happy to see that the mainsite updated its policy on underage pornography, so that characters who resemble children are not permitted- avoiding artists being able to claim that their characters are canonically over 18 even if they appear to be children.

I've been having trouble getting this enforced in reports though. I reported a piece of pornography that portrayed a child in a nappy sitting on an adult's lap recently, but the report was declined because the child was a pokemon 'and pokemon can be over 18 even if they stay in their infant form'.
I was also told that the staff had no reason to believe the character portrayed was a child, even though they were 3 feet tall, wearing a nappy, and the pornographic scenario revolved around 'potty training'.

I don't know how to proceed getting this sorted out; I was very surprised by this.
 

luffy

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Staff member
Administrator
I don't know how to proceed getting this sorted out; I was very surprised by this.
You may escalate the ticket, if you would like, to the Director or Administrator in that category. They will be able to explain it thoroughly if it isn't considered against the rules, and are a good point of contact for concerns like this.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
You may escalate the ticket, if you would like, to the Director or Administrator in that category. They will be able to explain it thoroughly if it isn't considered against the rules, and are a good point of contact for concerns like this.

May I ask how I do this? I re-opened the ticket already, is this the same as escalating it?

Mostly I am surprised that, when confronted with child pornography, anybody would say 'oh but it's a pokemon, so mentally, that child might be a 44 year old,'. It seems an esoteric vagary besides the moral point.
 

luffy

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May I ask how I do this? I re-opened the ticket already, is this the same as escalating it?

Mostly I am surprised that, when confronted with child pornography, anybody would say 'oh but it's a pokemon, so mentally, that child might be a 44 year old,'. It seems an esoteric vagary besides the moral point.
No, you have to ask to escalate it. Just say, "I would like to escalate this."

And technically, they're right. It was a shower thought of mine the other day, but Pikachu's pretty old and isn't Raichu yet. Who knows, I would escalate it for review.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
No, you have to ask to escalate it. Just say, "I would like to escalate this."

And technically, they're right. It was a shower thought of mine the other day, but Pikachu's pretty old and isn't Raichu yet. Who knows, I would escalate it for review.

Thanks.

My response to the shower thought is, if it's a sexy anthropmorphic man- it doesn't matter if they look like pikachu or raichu- both is fine.
And that if it's a sexualised anthropomorphic child, it doesn't matter if they look like pikachu or raichu- neither are fine.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I think the website needs a pretext to remove medical misinformation.
I don't think users who post incorrect medical information should be infracted, but I think the posts should be removed to prevent them doing harm,
e.g. posts that tell a user with a mental health complaint not to take their medication, or posts which tell parents to pursue alternative or spiritual medicines for their children in place of real ones.
Already in place for quite some time (I was there when it happened), actually:
Code of Conduct 2.5 said:
Do not promote, glorify, instruct, or encourage anyone to hurt themselves.
Do not encourage other users to engage in harmful behaviors, including suicide, eating disorders, or other forms of self harm. Do not give other users medical or veterinary advice that could result in harm coming to them or their pets. This does not apply to fictional works when used as part of a narrative.
If you see it happening, report it and if you feel it might be ambiguous why you're reporting it refer back to COC 2.5.

Usual "I am no longer a staff member" disclaimers apply.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Already in place for quite some time (I was there when it happened), actually:

If you see it happening, report it and if you feel it might be ambiguous why you're reporting it refer back to COC 2.5.

Usual "I am no longer a staff member" disclaimers apply.

Thankyou for pointing this out Mungo. <3
I will cite this rule specifically if I find any content promoting quackery that could result in harm.
 

Firio Zifirion

Red/Gray Protogen
1. Is night mode coming to faf? That could be really good for me at least bc I use it mainly at night..
2. Is it possible to make user able to personalize the theme of the site for thier reasons?
3. Phone app would be great! (I know it's not about forum but app would be wonderful)
4. Auto updating the messages and replies in threads and conversations.. It's really annoying that you have to click f5 or refresh a page every 20 seconds (mainly in LWP).

Edit:
5. There should be better and easier way to make your alerts more customisable...

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6. Clicking 'said' thing.. When you or someone replied it, would bring you back to the post that got replied... (I have no idea if that makes any sense [it does for me])
 
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Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
No, you have to ask to escalate it. Just say, "I would like to escalate this."

And technically, they're right. It was a shower thought of mine the other day, but Pikachu's pretty old and isn't Raichu yet. Who knows, I would escalate it for review.

So having done this, I got the same answer- that even though the character has the body of a child, that it's okay because they're a pokemon.
This is not consistent with the site's upload policy, but it's the answer I continue to get from staff.

I will post a hyperlink to the art here later, so that other users can see that content which is illegal in the United Kingdom is being hosted on FA.

On the plus side I've managed to get *1* other piece of underage porn removed from FA.
In the past year I've reported 8 pieces of underaged pornography and this is the only piece that has been removed as a result.

In my entire time on FA I have reported 13 pieces, 2 of which were removed. Various other pieces, while being obviously sexual in character, were allowed to stay on the website for reasons such as 'the buttocks are visible but not the anus,'.
 
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luffy

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
So having done this, I got the same answer- that even though the character has the body of a child, that it's okay because they're a pokemon.
This is not consistent with the site's upload policy, but it's the answer I continue to get from staff.

I will post a hyperlink to the art here later, so that other users can see that content which is illegal in the United Kingdom is being hosted on FA.

On the plus side I've managed to get *1* other piece of underage porn removed from FA.
In the past year I've reported 8 pieces of underaged pornography and this is the only piece that has been removed as a result.
This is something that will have to stick to tickets, unfortunately. None of the forum staff are able to take action or give input on this. Posting links to porn publicly is not going to change the policy and will result in a warning.
 

luffy

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Staff member
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1. Is night mode coming to faf? That could be really good for me at least bc I use it mainly at night..
2. Is it possible to make user able to personalize the theme of the site for thier reasons?
3. Phone app would be great! (I know it's not about forum but app would be wonderful)
4. Auto updating the messages and replies in threads and conversations.. It's really annoying that you have to click f5 or refresh a page every 20 seconds (mainly in LWP).

Edit:
5. There should be better and easier way to make your alerts more customisable...

Edit2:
6. Clicking 'said' thing.. When you or someone replied it, would bring you back to the post that got replied... (I have no idea if that makes any sense [it does for me])
1. We are hoping to rework the forum soon, but have some other infrastructural work that has to be completed first.
2. No.
3. We will not be making an app as the site is designed for both mobile and desktop purposes. We are still working on the design of the website, so suggestions on ways to improve the mobile user experience would be appreciated.
4. This is not possible with this forum software. You don't have to refresh, you can press the button at the bottom of the page that says something along the lines of, "Click to view new responses."
5. I wish, but unfortunately, this is a forum software limitation. We can look at it for future iterations of the forum.
6. I'm not sure what you mean here. "Said" thing? I think I understand the rest of your message but don't know what you mean by that.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
This is something that will have to stick to tickets, unfortunately. None of the forum staff are able to take action or give input on this. Posting links to porn publicly is not going to change the policy and will result in a warning.

Elsewhere on the forum it's often stated that NSFW content can be hyperlinked, provided that the destination website has an age-filter to prevent children from seeing the content.

Correct?
 

luffy

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
Elsewhere on the forum it's often stated that NSFW content can be hyperlinked, provided that the destination website has an age-filter to prevent children from seeing the content.

Correct?
Correct. I thought you meant to the image itself, not the submission page. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
 

Firio Zifirion

Red/Gray Protogen
1. We are hoping to rework the forum soon, but have some other infrastructural work that has to be completed first.
2. No.
3. We will not be making an app as the site is designed for both mobile and desktop purposes. We are still working on the design of the website, so suggestions on ways to improve the mobile user experience would be appreciated.
4. This is not possible with this forum software. You don't have to refresh, you can press the button at the bottom of the page that says something along the lines of, "Click to view new responses."
5. I wish, but unfortunately, this is a forum software limitation. We can look at it for future iterations of the forum.
6. I'm not sure what you mean here. "Said" thing? I think I understand the rest of your message but don't know what you mean by that.
By "said" thing I mean for example:
Screenshot_2019-07-10-11-00-04-01.jpeg
and when you click on it it would bring you back to this post that got replied.

P.S. I do not know what that thing is called...
 

Firio Zifirion

Red/Gray Protogen
Oooh, the quote? It's called a quote, and you can click those. For example, click the arrow next to "Firio Zifirion said:" on this message.
Oh.. Quote... I am dumb..
I use FAF on phone.. And it doesn't work.. Idk the reason behind it.

Edit: I checked.. it works only on my PC... maby my phone have a problem..
 

luffy

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Staff member
Administrator
Oh.. Quote... I am dumb..
I use FAF on phone.. And it doesn't work.. Idk the reason behind it.

Edit: I checked.. it works only on my PC... maby my phone have a problem..
You can request the desktop version of the site using your phone's browser if you would prefer it that way.
 

Firio Zifirion

Red/Gray Protogen
I think the function of changing the name to FA would be very useful. A lot of people have to create a new page just because they decided to change their name.
I dont think its possible... Lot of ppl asked for it but it didn't change... It might be a host limit.. Or it would have a big impact on a page... If anyone could change thier name no one would know who is anyone... And thats a problem.
 
H

Heysta

Guest
One thing that I liked from FN (for the 3 hours I used it) was that it had a built-in character management system. I would love to see some kind of feature similar on FA. Sorry if that's already been suggested.
 

luffy

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
One thing that I liked from FN (for the 3 hours I used it) was that it had a built-in character management system. I would love to see some kind of feature similar on FA. Sorry if that's already been suggested.
I'll check if this has been suggested already, and if not, I'll add it to the list
 
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