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luffy

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Can we get a way to turn off site news notifications in the global site settings instead of having to dismiss them everytime there's a new one? Either that, or can someone else be put in charge of them and only push them if they're actually about site news, and only site news.

I understand that fender likes to shove his annoying political views in everyone's faces but I'm tired of reading about them, especially since I disagree with everything he has to say.
No. We do our part, as a courtesy, to make users aware of when policy changes occur so that they can adjust to them.
 

koran007

New Member
4. If it helps, FAF doesn't allow the discussion of politics at all! :)
It would help if the main site would get rid of the trash too, since that's all I use.


No. We do our part, as a courtesy, to make users aware of when policy changes occur so that they can adjust to them.
Which would be okay if fender wasn't using it to push his obnoxious leftist ideology every chance he got, which is the entire reason I want to be able to turn them off.

I get that fender is in love with his violent terrorist movement, but that has nothing to do with site rules and allowing him to shout about it is just an abuse of the system, not to mention (and this is much more important) incredibly annoying.

The fact that you have to disable comments for these otherwise benign and informational posts should have clued you into this ages ago.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
3. The last update had a lot more details about Ruffle and FA+ features. One announcement regarding the attack. And the one before that was about music. Site and performance updates before that.
And arguably the post about the Capitol attack was also a policy update/clarification.

Seriously, though, it takes a few minutes at most to skim and see whether a news post is something you need to care about, and if it isn’t, you can just hit “back” and dismiss the notification. It’s a few quick clicks, not filing US taxes.

Relevant suggestion:
There has been a few times (not many) where news posts have been made days apart. In these cases, the way the notifications/announcements currently work, the first post may get missed by users who don’t check in daily, unless I’m utterly misremembering. I’d suggest that when under a certain threshold, multiple news posts posted in relatively quick succession get their own notifications/announcement bars, all displaying at the same time.

Totally get that it may be relatively expensive, dev-time-wise, though.
 

koran007

New Member
And arguably the post about the Capitol attack was also a policy update/clarification.

Seriously, though, it takes a few minutes at most to skim and see whether a news post is something you need to care about, and if it isn’t, you can just hit “back” and dismiss the notification. It’s a few quick clicks, not filing US taxes.

It absolutely wasn't. It was a rant from fender about how a group he doesn't like are bad (whereas if it had been BLM, I can only assume he would have gotten another page praising their actions to be shoehorned into FA's main page where it also doesn't belong). This is my entire contention with it.

Either he needs to go or the notifications should be able to be permanently turned off.
 

luffy

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It absolutely wasn't. It was a rant from fender about how a group he doesn't like are bad (whereas if it had been BLM, I can only assume he would have gotten another page praising their actions to be shoehorned into FA's main page where it also doesn't belong). This is my entire contention with it.

Either he needs to go or the notifications should be able to be permanently turned off.
Fender is not a person. He's the account all the directors use to announce changes. It's a mascot. You have a fundamental issue with Fur Affinity, not someone with highlighted journals. I'll read this all and reply again later but wanted to reply with that now.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
It absolutely wasn't. It was a rant from fender about how a group he doesn't like are bad (whereas if it had been BLM, I can only assume he would have gotten another page praising their actions to be shoehorned into FA's main page where it also doesn't belong). This is my entire contention with it.

Either he needs to go or the notifications should be able to be permanently turned off.
You... may need to reread that announcement if you can’t see the explicit policy statement that was also made in it. I‘ll even give you a hint: it’s towards the end of the post.

I’m not even sure why you’re so upset about FA condemning an act of insurrection/terrorism. Surely you’re not saying that you agree with the group that attacked the Capitol?

Look, at most the notifications cost you a couple of clicks and a few minutes of reading. If you were to, hypothetically, permanently disable the notifications, you’d instead be putting yourself in a position of needing to reread all policy documents at least every two weeks you’re active on the site to make sure you’re up to speed on current policy. That’s hell of a lot more reading and wasted time.
 

luffy

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Personal opinion but, perhaps an answer should be given at some point to the concern... even if they misunderstood that fender isn't a person, simply saying that isn't solving anything

Not to be rude but
I'll read this all and reply again later but wanted to reply with that now.
The argument was somewhat stemming from him being an individual who was receiving free journal press from FA - I wanted to explain that as I laid in bed half awake from my nap before making a lengthier reply with my dookie sleep brains. :) Thank you for your opinion though. I'll comment on it later when I am not tied up.
 

luffy

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Eh, I'll reply now. I'm going to go ahead and warn against any political speech outside of clearing up this issue because it is against the forum rules.

I wrote something longer in which I quoted people but it was unnecessary so I'm just gonna leave it with this:

To be honest with you, I don't really see anything that needs a further explanation than "Fender is a mascot account and represents Fur Affinity and not an individual" because at that point it's take FA or leave FA. If you do not like our policies, I suggest that you submit a Trouble Ticket with your opinion and see what happens. If you continue to disagree with Fur Affinity's stances on matters like this, then it is best you leave Fur Affinity.

1. Fur Affinity does not tolerate domestic or international terrorism and those associated with it will be removed from the site. Here's an old journal: https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/8733053/
2. You are allowed to be a republican or Trump supporter on Fur Affinity; you are not allowed to identify as alt-right or express ideologies which correlate with QAnon's views.
3. We allow politics on the main site. As the forum index states, It's a forum policy.

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4. For further clarification, this is the new rule:
Code of Conduct, Section 2.8 -

Do not promote ideologies harmful to public safety.​

Examples include: Covid misinformation, anti-vaccination, QAnon.
5. If you all want to discuss or argue about this, make a new thread or submit a trouble ticket. I'll be removing any additional posts about it because this is our suggestions thread.

Seriously. Trouble ticket. I'm just an admin who has to deal with these posts, and your opinion being expressed here is likely going to turn into some long political debate in which we ban a few users and get love notes from our fans (sarcasm). Flamingo and I do not have a say in what policies are introduced. We simply understand and enforce.
 
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Punji

Vaskebjørn
This might be kind of a small thing, but when tagging the genders of characters we have a number of options for single individuals but exactly one option for multiple, being "multiple characters."

Would it be possible to get more options like "multiple males" or so?
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
This might be kind of a small thing, but when tagging the genders of characters we have a number of options for single individuals but exactly one option for multiple, being "multiple characters."

Would it be possible to get more options like "multiple males" or so?
Well, multiple males would be adequately described just with "male", and the only other option would be "male and female"! I don't think there needs to be a specification.
 

Lutro

Writer
Well, multiple males would be adequately described just with "male", and the only other option would be "male and female"! I don't think there needs to be a specification.
Honestly I never interpreted it that way. I saw the three options as "single character, male", "single character, female", or "more than one character."
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
Honestly I never interpreted it that way. I saw the three options as "single character, male", "single character, female", or "more than one character."
Really? I think it makes more sense to have "male" mean "there's one or more males" and "multiple characters" mean "it's a mixed bag".
 

Punji

Vaskebjørn
Really? I think it makes more sense to have "male" mean "there's one or more males" and "multiple characters" mean "it's a mixed bag".
I think it works that way, yeah. But the usage is a little vague and I sometimes see the tags used interchangeably.

Two males sitting on a bench in the park is technically both male only and multiple characters. Some seem to tag it one way or another.
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
I think it works that way, yeah. But the usage is a little vague and I sometimes see the tags used interchangeably.

Two males sitting on a bench in the park is technically both male only and multiple characters. Some seem to tag it one way or another.
Hmm... it's only a question of usage then. Seems to me like the entire "gender" section is here for porn reasons, honestly. Basically "you looking for straight, gay or lesbian action" kind of deal.

Speaking of which moderation has yet to circle back at us regarding other potentially messed up stuff they do need to look into regarding the submission process! underage users still have to scroll through all the fetish categories to find "general furry art". I guess policing people's political opinions is more pressing to them than this lawsuit just waiting to happen.
 

luffy

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Speaking of which moderation has yet to circle back at us regarding other potentially messed up stuff they do need to look into regarding the submission process! underage users still have to scroll through all the fetish categories to find "general furry art". I guess policing people's political opinions is more pressing to them than this lawsuit just waiting to happen.
I did request this and it was backed by Dragoneer. It's a matter of it being implemented now. Unfortunately, I can't promise any timeline.
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
I did request this and it was backed by Dragoneer. It's a matter of it being implemented now. Unfortunately, I can't promise any timeline.
Thanks! given how many years it's been like this I shouldn't make it sound like mere weeks are a big deal. However I can't help but notice that more shallow and ideologically driven matters get a much quicker answer
 
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luffy

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Thanks! given how many years it's been like this I shouldn't make it sound like mere weeks are a big deal. However I can't help but notice that more shallow and ideologically driven matters get a much quicker answer
I know right now they are working on a large deadline project that needs to be completely quickly and deals with rewriting a ton of stuff, so there is a backlog of things like this that should be given attention afterwards.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I think the website needs a pretext to remove medical misinformation.
I don't think users who post incorrect medical information should be infracted, but I think the posts should be removed to prevent them doing harm,
e.g. posts that tell a user with a mental health complaint not to take their medication, or posts which tell parents to pursue alternative or spiritual medicines for their children in place of real ones.

I just want to thank the site for implementing new rules to limit the spread of anti-vaccination or coronavirus medical misinformation. https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9761295

I am unsure whether the staff considered my suggestion to limit medical conspiracies in 2019, or whether it is a coincidence.
Either way I am happy and think this makes the site a better place.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I just want to thank the site for implementing new rules to limit the spread of anti-vaccination or coronavirus medical misinformation. https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9761295

I am unsure whether the staff considered my suggestion to limit medical conspiracies in 2019, or whether it is a coincidence.
Either way I am happy and think this makes the site a better place.
Some of what your original suggestion included as examples may also fall under COC 2.5’s provisions against giving health or veterinary advice that may result in harm, but having a clear, separate rule against spreading harmful conspiracy theories is 100% welcome.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Some of what your original suggestion included as examples may also fall under COC 2.5’s provisions against giving health or veterinary advice that may result in harm, but having a clear, separate rule against spreading harmful conspiracy theories is 100% welcome.
Touché...true...trueché
 
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