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Lucyfur

United forever in friendship and labour
Banned
It could also be the fact that Flamingo and Luffy have had to publicly tell you (everyone involved) to stop arguing with the same people and get along/block eachother 3 or more times before that. But that's just my guess/observation.
If that was the case why was I the only one his with a suspension? Sounds like that would have net a wider range of action since it was a two way street.
 

Punji

Vaskebjørn
If that was the case why was I the only one his with a suspension? Sounds like that would have net a wider range of action since it was a two way street.
I think you and I should discuss the matter privately, especially since you're indirectly referring to me specifically, rather than derail an important thread.

You werent though. I saw punji with the red banner too.
That was actually somewhat unrelated and was merely a miscommunication, for which I was pardoned upon my appeal.
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
Could the interested parties please keep their toxic drama off of this thread so it could be used for its intended purpose? I thankfully have a few people on ignore, but it's not the case for everyone. For instance I've pointed out something that's been broken for a long time and maybe staff would like to be aware of that; now it's drowned.
 

Lucyfur

United forever in friendship and labour
Banned
Could the interested parties please keep their toxic drama off of this thread so it could be used for its intended purpose? I thankfully have a few people on ignore, but it's not the case for everyone. For instance I've pointed out something that's been broken for a long time and maybe staff would like to be aware of that; now it's drowned.
I was responding to others who responded to me

I was initially using this thread as intended which is to make a suggestion which is if moss take action there should be justification provided so that the user action is taken against knows why and they can not repeat that action
 

Flamingo

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator

4.5 Further Details​


All decisions are made based upon your history, the severity of your offense, and the discretion of the Moderator.

If you disagree with the decision of a Moderator, you may appeal his decision by opening a Trouble Ticket under the Dispute Administrative Action section. If your account is currently inaccessible due to a Suspension or Ban, you may email appeals@furaffinity.net. Disputes must be filed within 6 months of when the decision took place.
 

Lucyfur

United forever in friendship and labour
Banned
@Flamingo Yeah I did email you mods there bud, a couple times in fact, and all whoever responded to it did was say they stood by their decision and never provided clarification or justification as I had inquired for so I could, y'know not violate your rules and all that instead of being left to speculations and getting more infractions.

It also leaves more things to speculations like how you perma ban other users like Ovidia presumably for not twiddling her thumbs and staying silent as she saw users who baited exchanges themselves and may have been other things or elements receive no repercussions for their part in those violations while other users like myself had been awarded punishment.

I am unsure even now what I can delve into or not because where is the line here for me to not be "harassing" in my efforts to explain and elaborate. Which by the way could be avoided if in the first place justifications were submitted along with the punishments awarded and such since that would kind of nip that all in the butt.
 

Flamingo

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
You're misrepresenting the situation. I'm not about to engage in this discussion with you when the vast majority of it is information I can't even share by privacy policy. If you want to gripe about your suspension or others, the information is above. That's your hotline to my bosses.
 

Yakamaru

Level 32 Knight
Could the interested parties please keep their toxic drama off of this thread so it could be used for its intended purpose? I thankfully have a few people on ignore, but it's not the case for everyone. For instance I've pointed out something that's been broken for a long time and maybe staff would like to be aware of that; now it's drowned.
Speaking of drowning. I'e made a few suggestions that have been drowned out too. Not sure if staff are even aware of them either. Will have to quote them again later on when I finish work. Too much of a pain going back and forth on a phone.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I'd like to suggest adding a checkbox to mark the contacts/social media links as NSFW so they can be hidden from minors/people with Mature/Adult content turned off. Not all of the services listed require a login to see an account/feed marked as mature (or indeed a way to mark an account as mature), and it saves people from accidentally violating the off-site linking rules in good faith.
 

Narkiel

New Member
I love that there's an official comission status box now. Another great feature would be a way to filter search results to only artists that are currently open. This would make it a lot easier for prospective commissioners to link up with artists that draw the kind of work they want.
 

Yakamaru

Level 32 Knight
Could we possibly have a search box in the private messages section? I understand that it's up to the user to keep his or her notes in order but that's wooork
coughslazycoughs ;)

Oh, right. Forgot to find the suggestions..

#1
Would it be possible for a life advice subforum?

For when wanting or giving advice pertaining to issues pertaining to life and other problems one might have?

May want to try and make sure it's made for its intended purpose and not allowed to have attention seekers abuse this subforum though.
#2
Event Coordinator/Organizer maybe?

Events are always fun to have, though would it be possible to have someone like that for the forum?
 

Attaman

"I say we forget this business and run."
While good intentioned, a Life Advice subforum sounds like a pile of optics and legal problems waiting to happen. There’s a reason most financial advisors, lawyers, et al practically refuse to give more than the most indirect and unspecific advice on personal matters unless they’re on the clock specifically for the person they’re answering, and it’s not greed.

Likewise, it’d be a honeypot rife for abuse. Help Forums tend to be recruiting grounds for everything from religious cults, extremist groups, traffickers, financial scams, etcetera. Especially the sort of Life Problems typically reported in the fandom (“I am being disowned and have no support network or home”, “I have no friends and would take anyone at this point”, “I’m flat broke”, etc). A solution to this would be to crack down hard on anyone caught advertising off-site chat groups, offline meetings, any sort of financial contract, et al... but the issue there is that to keep it from being a Mickey Mouse policy of “I won’t advertise a chat in Life Advice... but coincidentally I will advertise at the exact same time in Community that I have / know a private Discord and will totally PM invites on demand” it’d basically mean cracking down on all of FA.

Basically? It’s one of the few sub forums that’s require even more and more active Moderation than Politics, but with even larger potential repercussions to boot (imagine if some concerned parent found their child literally was recruited into a Cult in an officially endorsed FA “Life Advice” subforum).

A community event manager sounds a lot more plausible, but by the same token seems like it’d best be rolled into some current Moderator’s duties. I say this as you’d probably want the same level of vetting (meaning sending Dragoneer a personal copy of your ID), it’d need to be confined entirely to either FA or directly-overseen-by-FA channels (like a Dragoneer ran Discord or chat service) and no private chat groups, etcetera. At which point you’re basically looking at a dedicated / specialist Mod. Anything less than as much for a formally endorsed community / event manager is asking for a scandal (real, fake, both, or so-on) waiting to happen: We already have people wring hands about Mods who’ve been absent for months at a time. Imagine now if there were an official FA(F) event and there was a disproportionate correlation between winners and members of their own private channel. It wouldn’t matter if the correlation was only “As the runner people were more aware of it as it was in the server’s pinned messages”, there’s be suspicions all the same.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Just going to comment some of the adverts visible on the forum banner describe content available from artists as 'sexy'.

There's a SFW mode for adverts right? Maybe that should apply to the forum, since some of the users are kiddos.
 

TR273

Pirate Fox Mom
Just going to comment some of the adverts visible on the forum banner describe content available from artists as 'sexy'.

There's a SFW mode for adverts right? Maybe that should apply to the forum, since some of the users are kiddos.
Just going to second this.

And add that most are cheerfully advertising full NSFW.
 

Punji

Vaskebjørn
I'm sure this has been suggested many times before, but we could really use a watched submissions filter of some kind. Here's an example of why:

FAF.png


25 submission notifications today and I enjoyed viewing about 4 of them, though roughly 8 were actually fully finished artworks. This happens nearly every day for me.

The recent limitation on the number of reminders per day is nice, but it doesn't help to do anything about the sheer volume of them when watching a large number of artists. If there was an option to tick the various forms of non-art and such and hide it from view it would be great appreciated.

I've said it once and I'll say it again: If I cared I wouldn't need to be reminded. If I was going to support an artist's Patreon I'd make the decision on my own by checking to see if they had one. If I was interested in commissioning an artist, I'd check their page and ask them if they were accepting them.

I hold the same sort of philosophy with regular advertisers, in that the more I see a product advertised the less likely I am to support it. I'm sure many other users would appreciate a filter for this worthless spam as well.
 

ASTA

Former Trash Man
I'm sure this has been suggested many times before, but we could really use a watched submissions filter of some kind. Here's an example of why:

View attachment 103831

25 submission notifications today and I enjoyed viewing about 4 of them, though roughly 8 were actually fully finished artworks. This happens nearly every day for me.

The recent limitation on the number of reminders per day is nice, but it doesn't help to do anything about the sheer volume of them when watching a large number of artists. If there was an option to tick the various forms of non-art and such and hide it from view it would be great appreciated.

I've said it once and I'll say it again: If I cared I wouldn't need to be reminded. If I was going to support an artist's Patreon I'd make the decision on my own by checking to see if they had one. If I was interested in commissioning an artist, I'd check their page and ask them if they were accepting them.

I hold the same sort of philosophy with regular advertisers, in that the more I see a product advertised the less likely I am to support it. I'm sure many other users would appreciate a filter for this worthless spam as well.

I feel like this can be partially blamed on the competitive nature of the furry artist scene and the less-than-stellar financial situation of the average furry. The average furry is in their 20s, but people in their 20s are usually broke because they're heavily indebted to various financial institutions. Student loans, car notes, credit cards, and low-paying grunge jobs will do that. All of the artists currently spamming FA with their products and services are fighting over the leftover scraps from one of the smallest and least fulfilling pies imaginable.

All the net worth and disposal income is found in people in their 30s and 40s, but these folks are a rarity in the fandom because most of them age out of the furry scene by about age 29.
 
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quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
Just going to comment some of the adverts visible on the forum banner describe content available from artists as 'sexy'.

There's a SFW mode for adverts right? Maybe that should apply to the forum, since some of the users are kiddos.
I’d assumed it checked your browser for mainsite cookies before serving the FA ads or something. Though I also don’t know for sure what the line for SFW ads, admittedly. It’s not like there’s not YA content out there that tackles “sexy.”
 

luffy

Administrator
Staff member
Administrator
In regards to the NSFW ads on forum, I'll mention it to them now. I believe they are intended to be SFW only.

As for some of the other stuff, most of it has already been suggested and replied to by me. I'll go back through this topic later.
 

Dragoneer

Site Developer
Staff member
Site Director
I'm sure this has been suggested many times before, but we could really use a watched submissions filter of some kind. Here's an example of why:

View attachment 103831

25 submission notifications today and I enjoyed viewing about 4 of them, though roughly 8 were actually fully finished artworks. This happens nearly every day for me.

The recent limitation on the number of reminders per day is nice, but it doesn't help to do anything about the sheer volume of them when watching a large number of artists. If there was an option to tick the various forms of non-art and such and hide it from view it would be great appreciated.

I've said it once and I'll say it again: If I cared I wouldn't need to be reminded. If I was going to support an artist's Patreon I'd make the decision on my own by checking to see if they had one. If I was interested in commissioning an artist, I'd check their page and ask them if they were accepting them.

I hold the same sort of philosophy with regular advertisers, in that the more I see a product advertised the less likely I am to support it. I'm sure many other users would appreciate a filter for this worthless spam as well.
I definitely understand the frustration, and we're trying to curb this kind of spam with our new rules. In addition, if you see our most recent announcement, there's something of a veiled threat in there: "In addition to these changes going live, we also have new tools to help cut down on submissions being removed and reposted in an attempt to bypass our policies."

We have new tools to monitor people abusing the policy. We're watching. =3
 

Frank Gulotta

Send us your floppy
While good intentioned, a Life Advice subforum sounds like a pile of optics and legal problems waiting to happen. There’s a reason most financial advisors, lawyers, et al practically refuse to give more than the most indirect and unspecific advice on personal matters unless they’re on the clock specifically for the person they’re answering, and it’s not greed.

Likewise, it’d be a honeypot rife for abuse. Help Forums tend to be recruiting grounds for everything from religious cults, extremist groups, traffickers, financial scams, etcetera. Especially the sort of Life Problems typically reported in the fandom (“I am being disowned and have no support network or home”, “I have no friends and would take anyone at this point”, “I’m flat broke”, etc). A solution to this would be to crack down hard on anyone caught advertising off-site chat groups, offline meetings, any sort of financial contract, et al... but the issue there is that to keep it from being a Mickey Mouse policy of “I won’t advertise a chat in Life Advice... but coincidentally I will advertise at the exact same time in Community that I have / know a private Discord and will totally PM invites on demand” it’d basically mean cracking down on all of FA.

Basically? It’s one of the few sub forums that’s require even more and more active Moderation than Politics, but with even larger potential repercussions to boot (imagine if some concerned parent found their child literally was recruited into a Cult in an officially endorsed FA “Life Advice” subforum).

A community event manager sounds a lot more plausible, but by the same token seems like it’d best be rolled into some current Moderator’s duties. I say this as you’d probably want the same level of vetting (meaning sending Dragoneer a personal copy of your ID), it’d need to be confined entirely to either FA or directly-overseen-by-FA channels (like a Dragoneer ran Discord or chat service) and no private chat groups, etcetera. At which point you’re basically looking at a dedicated / specialist Mod. Anything less than as much for a formally endorsed community / event manager is asking for a scandal (real, fake, both, or so-on) waiting to happen: We already have people wring hands about Mods who’ve been absent for months at a time. Imagine now if there were an official FA(F) event and there was a disproportionate correlation between winners and members of their own private channel. It wouldn’t matter if the correlation was only “As the runner people were more aware of it as it was in the server’s pinned messages”, there’s be suspicions all the same.
I'm baffled that you would see a help with life subforum and immediately jump to the assumption that cult leaders would use it as a recruiting tool

I've used much bigger forums than FAF which had such a section and I'm not aware of any such thing happening, in fact the main one I'm thinking of (classic days of the DA forum) had this as the only wholesome part of the site (then again it is or was geared more towards adults, where difficult topics were actually allowed instead of just being downright banned in fear that something bad might happen someday).

Have you witnessed such events happening, perhaps got recruited into a cult yourself..? I would imagine it's rare enough that you'd be content just reporting it to the cyberpolice.
 

TyraWadman

The Silent Observer
I'm baffled that you would see a help with life subforum and immediately jump to the assumption that cult leaders would use it as a recruiting tool

I've used much bigger forums than FAF which had such a section and I'm not aware of any such thing happening, in fact the main one I'm thinking of (classic days of the DA forum) had this as the only wholesome part of the site (then again it is or was geared more towards adults, where difficult topics were actually allowed instead of just being downright banned in fear that something bad might happen someday).

Have you witnessed such events happening, perhaps got recruited into a cult yourself..? I would imagine it's rare enough that you'd be content just reporting it to the cyberpolice.

Considering people offer support and post links to discord servers without this category, I feel like it wouldn't make that much of a difference to add it.
 
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