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aloveablebunny

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BahgDaddy said:
That allows mob mentality to take effect, whereas the only mob mentality we get here is lack of likes. I'm actually quite liked myself, I have about one like per post, which I think is excellent, since people usually actively dislike me after a while.

Worse is the Reputation systems, which allow someone to walk about with a bunch of green or red dots by their username. This merel creates cliques and mobs, which are generally toxic to any community, society, or culture.

If I had my way there would be no like button either. Posts would have to stand on their own two feet that way.
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Is this not the same IRL? People hoarding status & attention via money, expensive cars, accessories, and other means, effectively creating cliques and mobs that reject others if they do not "fit"?

Anywhere you go that is community-based you will have those who tend to band together and resent newcomers who do not have tenure, or who have unpopular opinions. IRL, online, wherever. There's no escaping it whether you have like/dislike buttons or not.
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

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aloveablebunny said:
Is this not the same IRL? People hoarding status & attention via money, expensive cars, accessories, and other means, effectively creating cliques and mobs that reject others if they do not "fit"?

Anywhere you go that is community-based you will have those who tend to band together and resent newcomers who do not have tenure, or who have unpopular opinions. IRL, online, wherever. There's no escaping it whether you have like/dislike buttons or not.
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Probably the reason I have few "friends" in real life.
 
Yakamaru

Yakamaru

Silly McFly
aloveablebunny said:
But then you'd have droves of easily-triggered crybabies crying about being disliked lol. Just like they do on Reddit!
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Yeah, but then again it gives you an idea of how much your shit is not liked.
 
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BahgDaddy

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Okami_No_Heishi said:
I am the Oprah Winfrey of the like button. Everyone gets a like.:p
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I've noticed. Nothing wrong with that! :)

aloveablebunny said:
Is this not the same IRL? People hoarding status & attention via money, expensive cars, accessories, and other means, effectively creating cliques and mobs that reject others if they do not "fit"?

Anywhere you go that is community-based you will have those who tend to band together and resent newcomers who do not have tenure, or who have unpopular opinions. IRL, online, wherever. There's no escaping it whether you have like/dislike buttons or not.
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Quite, and I criticize those cliques as well. Admittedly, I sometimes create my own cliques around myself. But I have some fancy things, and it does not appear to bring me more attention. Admittedly I'd probably need a $200,000 car in my town to turn too many heads.
 
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aloveablebunny

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Okami_No_Heishi said:
Probably the reason I have few "friends" in real life.
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I was an "outsider" in school because I was quiet and kept to myself; attempts to mingle with others who weren't like me were often met with bullying and teasing. My family wasn't rich so I didn't get all the latest gadgets, designer clothes, or family vacations/trips. I read books in my down time and was a good student who did her homework and assignments, and scored well on tests. I was also a skinny, petite white girl in a school whose majority ethnicity was Hispanic. Quite a lot of kids found fault in all of that, and I was teased a lot over it. I only had a handful of friends because I was also non-confrontational and had no desire to fight fire with fire or speak up for myself.

Now at almost 28, I'm a totally different person, and have had a lot of experiences in life, but I still keep just a few friends that I regularly see or talk to. That is largely due to the fact that I just don't have a lot of time or energy to devote to being friends with everyone I meet. I'd rather have 5 close friends I can trust, than 20 fake ones who want to gossip and be ugly in the way that they treat others. I don't enjoy drama and I do what I can to stay out of the middle of it.

However, 10 years of working in customer service has taught me how to be fair and equal to people, no matter their status. I'll be kind and respectful until someone gives me a reason not to be.
 
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BahgDaddy

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aloveablebunny said:
I was an "outsider" in school because I was quiet and kept to myself; attempts to mingle with others who weren't like me were often met with bullying and teasing. My family wasn't rich so I didn't get all the latest gadgets, designer clothes, or family vacations/trips. I read books in my down time and was a good student who did her homework and assignments, and scored well on tests. I was also a skinny, petite white girl in a school whose majority ethnicity was Hispanic. Quite a lot of kids found fault in all of that, and I was teased a lot over it. I only had a handful of friends because I was also non-confrontational and had no desire to fight fire with fire or speak up for myself.

Now at almost 28, I'm a totally different person, and have had a lot of experiences in life, but I still keep just a few friends that I regularly see or talk to. That is largely due to the fact that I just don't have a lot of time or energy to devote to being friends with everyone I meet. I'd rather have 5 close friends I can trust, than 20 fake ones who want to gossip and be ugly in the way that they treat others. I don't enjoy drama and I do what I can to stay out of the middle of it.

However, 10 years of working in customer service has taught me how to be fair and equal to people, no matter their status. I'll be kind and respectful until someone gives me a reason not to be.
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For obvious reasons, I would not be a very good customer service candidate.

Call 1: "Yes, ma'am, absolutely, let's fix that for you."

Call 2: "Yep, I'll help you out with that."

Call 3: "You did what? You're too stupid to breath."
 
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aloveablebunny

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BahgDaddy said:
Quite, and I criticize those cliques as well. Admittedly, I sometimes create my own cliques around myself. But I have some fancy things, and it does not appear to bring me more attention. Admittedly I'd probably need a $200,000 car in my town to turn too many heads.
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Honestly, I really don't give two shits about my "status". Someone isn't in favor of what I say or do? Oh well. I'm not fond of the "I'm better than you" attitude that way too many people seem to be carrying around. While it is nice to receive positive reactions to something I say or do, it does not make or break me, nor does it dictate the direction I go in life. What I will not fail to do, however, is to defend myself when someone attacks me over something petty and ludicrous - or something that is part of who I am that cannot be changed. I know how to agree to disagree and move on with my life; I don't have any patience for people who want to whine and complain that someone else thinks differently than they do.

Of course, all of this revolves around my moral compass and personal code of ethics - which largely is centered about respecting myself and respecting others, and their rights to individuality.
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

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I couldn't deal with the public today. It is a completely different monster than when I worked at a movie theatre 24 years ago. People today are just freakin nasty for no reason whatsoever!
 
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aloveablebunny

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BahgDaddy said:
For obvious reasons, I would not be a very good customer service candidate.

Call 1: "Yes, ma'am, absolutely, let's fix that for you."

Call 2: "Yep, I'll help you out with that."

Call 3: "You did what? You're too stupid to breath."
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Hence why I left customer service... well, client-facing customer service. I work behind the scenes now and rarely have to entertain clients face to face.
 
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Okami_No_Heishi

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I think I am gonna go play some more Zelda. Brings back a lot of fond memories of the 80s.
 
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BahgDaddy

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aloveablebunny said:
Honestly, I really don't give two shits about my "status". Someone isn't in favor of what I say or do? Oh well. I'm not fond of the "I'm better than you" attitude that way too many people seem to be carrying around. While it is nice to receive positive reactions to something I say or do, it does not make or break me, nor does it dictate the direction I go in life. What I will not fail to do, however, is to defend myself when someone attacks me over something petty and ludicrous - or something that is part of who I am that cannot be changed. I know how to agree to disagree and move on with my life; I don't have any patience for people who want to whine and complain that someone else thinks differently than they do.

Of course, all of this revolves around my moral compass and personal code of ethics - which largely is centered about respecting myself and respecting others, and their rights to individuality.
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How much individuality will you tolerate before it starts to infringe on your space? For instance, the trans pronoun wars, I believe, go too far past the point of personal individuality and attempt to reshape my behavior, which isn't something I tolerate well.

But generally I would say being true to oneself is extremely important, as too many people lose themselves in the pursuit of being liked. Me, I have never attempted to be either liked nor disliked, I am simply who I am. Who I am also changes on a regular basis, so there's that, and I also recognize other people change as well.

generally my ethics revolve more around human rights.
 
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aloveablebunny

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BahgDaddy said:
How much individuality will you tolerate before it starts to infringe on your space? For instance, the trans pronoun wars, I believe, go too far past the point of personal individuality and attempt to reshape my behavior, which isn't something I tolerate well.

But generally I would say being true to oneself is extremely important, as too many people lose themselves in the pursuit of being liked. Me, I have never attempted to be either liked nor disliked, I am simply who I am. Who I am also changes on a regular basis, so there's that, and I also recognize other people change as well.

generally my ethics revolve more around human rights.
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I'm not going to delve into a drawn-out discussion about my opinions and beliefs on controversial topics. I will say that there are some things that have been taken way too far out of their original intended context and that irks me greatly, but people are going to do that no matter what, with whatever topic. People like to take things to extremes, especially with "controversial" topics.

I choose not to insert myself in the middle of these hot-button debates unless something that someone is doing or saying is directly causing harm to someone on the basis of who that person is. Plenty of people are so quick to believe that their thoughts on a matter are what is law, when really... we all are going to die one day. I'm working hard enough as it is to navigate through life's other obstacles; getting into screaming matches over politics and such is most definitely not something I have interest in. I will listen to the "whys" of how someone feels about a particular topic, and decide whether I agree or disagree, and then sometimes there is a discussion, but resorting to childish name-calling simply because I don't agree with another person's views is a waste of energy.

I have gone through many changes myself over the years - my beliefs on certain things have changed, and the way that I think about certain things has changed too. The great thing about life is that it is fluid - you can choose to be set in your ways all the time, or you can open up your mind and consider alternative points of view to better understand others.
 
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BahgDaddy

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aloveablebunny said:
I'm not going to delve into a drawn-out discussion about my opinions and beliefs on controversial topics. I will say that there are some things that have been taken way too far out of their original intended context and that irks me greatly, but people are going to do that no matter what, with whatever topic. People like to take things to extremes, especially with "controversial" topics.

I choose not to insert myself in the middle of these hot-button debates unless something that someone is doing or saying is directly causing harm to someone on the basis of who that person is. Plenty of people are so quick to believe that their thoughts on a matter are what is law, when really... we all are going to die one day. I'm working hard enough as it is to navigate through life's other obstacles; getting into screaming matches over politics and such is most definitely not something I have interest in. I will listen to the "whys" of how someone feels about a particular topic, and decide whether I agree or disagree, and then sometimes there is a discussion, but resorting to childish name-calling simply because I don't agree with another person's views is a waste of energy.

I have gone through many changes myself over the years - my beliefs on certain things have changed, and the way that I think about certain things has changed too. The great thing about life is that it is fluid - you can choose to be set in your ways all the time, or you can open up your mind and consider alternative points of view to better understand others.
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People've lost the ability to communicate with each other clearly, rationally, and ethically. Instead we have either people who get offended at a moment's notice the instant you disagree with them, or people who rabidly insert their opinions into any conversation without heed for others. I try to get people to communicate with each other more calmly, rationally, and logically.

More of this please:

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And less of this:

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Simo

Simo

Professional Watermelon Farmer
BahgDaddy said:
I use emulators that let me play them on the Mac for free. Any vintage video game you want!
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I used to like to play various old arcade games, on the MAME emulator...the only problem, was the controls never 'felt' right: as in, it's hard to replicate the 'feel' of the controls these games had, and the positions of the buttons, and so forth. But it still was fun.
 
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aloveablebunny

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BahgDaddy said:




People've lost the ability to communicate with each other clearly, rationally, and ethically. Instead we have either people who get offended at a moment's notice the instant you disagree with them, or people who rabidly insert their opinions into any conversation without heed for others. I try to get people to communicate with each other more calmly, rationally, and logically.

More of this please:

two_men_debate.jpg


And less of this:

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Honestly, good luck. As much as I'd love everyone to have rational discussions instead of screaming matches all the time, there are too many prideful, egotistical people who prevent that from happening. It's shocking to me when someone DOES elect to have a calm, rational discussion on a controversial topic.
 
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BahgDaddy

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Wisdom seen elsewhere on the Internet: "What's wrong with furries?" / "Nothing. They're just different, and there's nothing wrong with that."

Simo said:
I used to like to play various old arcade games, on the MAME emulator...the only problem, was the controls never 'felt' right: as in, it's hard to replicate the 'feel' of the controls these games had, and the positions of the buttons, and so forth. But it still was fun.
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I'm a very abnormal millennial in that I've never played a console game, only desktop games or emulated ones on the desktop.
 
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BahgDaddy

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aloveablebunny said:
Honestly, good luck. As much as I'd love everyone to have rational discussions instead of screaming matches all the time, there are too many prideful, egotistical people who prevent that from happening. It's shocking to me when someone DOES elect to have a calm, rational discussion on a controversial topic.
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There are a few action items we can strive for:

1. Make critical analysis an actual school class, preferably middle or elementary school level, that teaches children nothing except how to think about things.

2. Defame news outlets that have resorted to talking head nonsense instead of actual news and reporting.

3. Criticize people and call them out when they're not making sense. (This is what I'm good at. :) )
 
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