Open Chat

[Dox-Tucy]

And I'm finally home

you want to tell me... you have a religion as a subject in school?

 

[Astus]

you want to tell me... you have a religion as a subject in school?

I was wondering the same thing; I know Poland has free religion and typically religion is only taught in an academic sense in University (unless you go to my school)

 

[Black Burn]

you want to tell me... you have a religion as a subject in school?

Yes we have, your parent's can do not agree to this, and then you go on ethics in some schools, or like in my school you sit in common room for this period

 

[Mudman2001]

Fuck. Just come into work to hear one of my colleagues passed away suddenly over the weekend. Distraught.

I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts will be with you.

 

[Astus]

Yes we have, your parent's can do not agree to this, and then you go on ethics in some schools, or like in my school you sit in common room for this period

It would make sense, that since you have freedom of religion, that parents would have to consent to allow you to be taught religious ideology O.O rather than signing for you not to be taught it

 

[Black Burn]

It would make sense, that since you have freedom of religion, that parents would have to consent to allow you to be taught religious ideology O.O rather than signing for you not to be taught it

*shrug* Poland, people are very religious here, well maybe not the younger, but there are still very much people that are zealots, and there are some factors from our history to this.. and mentality of our country

 

[backpawscratcher]

I'm sorry to hear that. My thoughts will be with you.

Thanks man. It’s been quite awful I’m the office today. I’m trying to keep upbeat in order to focus, but it’s really hard. Even when something makes me happy for a few minutes it then comes crashing in. Everyone is just very subdued at the moment after all the emotion earlier, although in the meantime all our US offices are gradually coming online meaning the news is being relayed to them. Not good.

 

[Astus]

*shrug* Poland, people are very religious here, well maybe not the younger, but there are still very much people that are zealots, and there are some factors from our history to this.. and mentality of our country

Still seems rather odd to be forced to learn a religion in a country with free religion I mean even if the stats are true and 98.5% of people are Catholics... Roman Catholic? Whatever it was >.> legislation for free religion would say that learning environments have to be kept free of religious ideology... in the sense that they can tell you what the people of the religion believe, but they cannot teach it to you as a die hard fact of truth that you have to follow as if it was your religion.... if that makes any sense

 

[Dox-Tucy]

Yes we have, your parent's can do not agree to this, and then you go on ethics in some schools, or like in my school you sit in common room for this period

i am sorry for that... you see in Czech there are mostly atheists I know only one person, who is going to church and belive me, that i know a lot of people!

 

[Black Burn]

Still seems rather odd to be forced to learn a religion in a country with free religion I mean even if the stats are true and 98.5% of people are Catholics... Roman Catholic? Whatever it was >.> legislation for free religion would say that learning environments have to be kept free of religious ideology... in the sense that they can tell you what the people of the religion believe, but they cannot teach it to you as a die hard fact of truth that you have to follow as if it was your religion.... if that makes any sense

Yeah, I know and I agree, I think that this religion as a subject has no sense, and I hate it beacuse it's a a waste of time for me, sometimes you can get a fine priest or cathehist, but mostly they are fanatics, I had a priest that when he have heard that you are atheist or not catholic, he would want to get your marks down as hard as he can, for an example I have a friend that has born as illegitimate child, his father escaped etc. and people in his village are mean to him for it (in Poland there are a lots of village that post-communists live and they are zealots), and priest that teaches in his class, just tries to get him down for it... ohhh it's really complicated

 

[Astus]

Yeah, I know and I agree, I think that this religion as a subject has no sense, and I hate it beacuse it's a a waste of time for me, sometimes you can get a fine priest or cathehist, but mostly they are fanatics, I had a priest that when he have heard that you are atheist or not catholic, he would want to get your marks down as hard as he can, for an example I have a friend that has born as illegitimate child, his father escaped etc. and people in his village are mean to him for it (in Poland there are a lots of village that post-communists live and they are zealots), and priest that teaches in his class, just tries to get him down for it... ohhh it's really complicated

Sounds like you need some educational and social ‘improvements’ in your country

 

[Black Burn]

Sounds like you need some educational and social ‘improvements’ in your country

Yeah we need, mentality of most curent poles is broken for me

 

[Astus]

Yeah we need, mentality of most curent poles is broken for me

Kurwa, that’s what happens when you stay under the iron curtain for so long i guess

 

[Black Burn]

Kurwa, that’s what happens when you stay under the iron curtain for so long i guess

It's not only Iron Curtain, it's also around 120 years of being under occupation...

 

[Black Burn]

It's not only Iron Curtain, it's also around 120 years of being under occupation...

Fuck now I have noticed that okupacja is occupancy not occupation xD

 

[Astus]

It's not only Iron Curtain, it's also around 120 years of being under occupation...

But I thought after WWI the treaty of Versailles got you your freedom D: I’m pretty sure actually that’s when my predominantly Polish side of the family moved over here and then of course after WWII you guys were always under occupation so you basically had from 1918 till 1939 that’s a whole 21 years :O

 

[Black Burn]

But I thought after WWI the treaty of Versailles you got your freedom D: I’m pretty sure actually that’s when my predominantly Polish side of the family moved over here and then of course after WWII you guys were always under occupation so you basically had from 1918 till 1939 that’s a whole 21 years :O

But those 120 years, another occupancy from 1939 to 1945, then another occupancy under communists from 1945 to 1989 (for me it wasn't liberation and independence), that's why poles (well mostly older, beacuse some of the young poles hates Poland and are ashamed of being them, some of them just aren't christians like me etc...) have big nationalism and are really attached to their ideas...

 

[Black Burn]

You know what germans and russians were doing for us in XIX century?

 

[Dox-Tucy]

You know what germans and russians were doing for us in XIX century?

ofc... they helped us... to slow down

 

[Astus]

But those 120 years, another occupancy from 1939 to 1945, then another occupancy under communists from 1945 to 1989 (for me it wasn't liberation and independence), that's why poles (well mostly older, beacuse some of the young poles hates Poland and are ashamed of being them, some of them just aren't christians like me etc...) have big nationalism and are really attached to their ideas...

If you were occupied from 1939 till 1989 that’d be 50 years of occupation yeah the Germans took over in 1939 and when they fell the Russians did in 1945 and when the USSR ‘fell’ you guys got your ‘freedom’

You know what germans and russians were doing for us in XIX century?

In the 19th century you guys weren’t really even a country you had been partitioned so many times before that, and you basically entered basically into a vassalage under Russia to protect yourself because Napoleon like kicked everyone’s butt... and then entering up to WWI you guys got caught inbetween Russia and Germany and when the German, Austria-Hungarian’s fell you guys got your first collective freedom from the rubble of the war and the ruins of Russia, Germany, and Austria-Hungary

 

[Black Burn]

ofc... they helped us... to slow down

In Poland they were trying to remove polish culture and catholic religion from us, after uprising they tried just to remove us, my ancestors were deprived of their property and abandoned to their fate by germans beacuse they wanted to be poles, after WWII communists were trying to destroy the church, for an example when you were working as soldier, militia officer or other goverement worker, you couldn't go to church, and some wars with other religions...

 

[Black Burn]

If you were occupied from 1939 till 1989 that’d be 50 years of occupation yeah the Germans took over in 1939 and when they fell the Russians did in 1945 and when the USSR ‘fell’ you guys got your ‘freedom’




In the 19th century you guys weren’t really even a country you had been partitioned so many times before that, and you basically entered basically into a vassalage under Russia to protect yourself because Napoleon like kicked everyone’s butt... and then entering up to WWI you guys got caught inbetween Russia and Germany and when the German, Austria-Hungarian’s fell you guys got your first collective freedom from the rubble of the war and the ruins of Russia, Germany, and Austria-Hungary

Wait you think that we were fighting with Napoleon under Russia's vassalage?

 

[Kiaara]

Is it bad that I listen to babymetal while i run?

 

[Astus]

Wait you think that we were fighting with Napoleon under Russia's vassalage?

No one fought with napoleon :v he conqured all of Europe basically

 

[Astus]

Is it bad that I listen to babymetal while i run?

What's a babymetal?